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jsrocket said:
Well, he may be a good guy, but let's look at the facts. He was CLEARLY informed about the misrepresented animal. His knee jerk reaction, was to say, "You don't know what you're talking about."

He could have checked the ad, to see if there was any validity to the proposition, and had plenty of time to do it.

Either he's just a lazy slob, or dishonest. Either way, I won't be buying anything there soon.
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You know rocket, when some yahoo, much like yourself, comes out of the blue and tells me I'm wrong about something I'm fairly sure I'm right about I may well do just as Ken did and tell that yahoo to flaggelate himself.

It was taken care of, an appology was made and it's over. I SERIOUSLY doubt Ken will miss your business. There are plenty like me who would do business with him or recommend him to others.

I'm done defending Ken, he really doesn't need it if you're familiar with the volume he does or how long he's been doing it.

You though, you just feel free to make an ass, again, of yourself anytime you like. It is the ONE thing at which you excell.
 
Wes, I didn't say you were wrong about Mr. Foose. If I had a nickel for every "nice guy" friend of mine, who tripped over his own feet around every corner, I'd have about $683.41.

His whole story is lame. I have also stuck up for friends, after they messed up. But they have to do their best to correct what they messed up, if they want any help from me.

If that is Mr. Foose's best, I am not impressed.
 
Not that I want this back to the top again, but I felt I should reply. You are correct Jim, I was lame. I was pissed and pretty much unresponsive to several good people. I had just gotten a half dozen emails calling me a lier, cheat, crook, and basically scum. By the time I got to the emails that really counted, I was so upset I blew them off. My mistake, but I will rack it up to human nature also. I really pride myself on my stock, my husbandry, and my staff. I also attempt to be honest in all transactions, and I don't believe you will find anyone anywhere that can claim that I ripped them off. I am very good at resolving problems on my end, and I do believe that each and everyone of my customers has been happy with the way they were treated and by the product they recieve. 90% of my business is walk in customers, and they of course get to pick and choose what they want, feel it, hold it, smell it, all the stuff that's almost impossible to do over the internet. Sorry you will never buy from me, but then again, you are part of the 10% that don't come to the store. It's your choice, and I respect that. Wes, we moved to a new place back in March, a half mile down the road from the old store. It's a brand new building, and a bit over twice as big. I of course have already run out of room! I always thought that the old store we were in for about 16 years looked like someones basement, which I kinda liked. The new place looks a bit more like a Petco, only full of herps instead of dog food.
Anyway, sorry for being a bonehead. Now I'm just lame. Which I guess is a bit better. Things are looking up!

Thanks,
Ken
 
jsrocket said:
Wes, I didn't say you were wrong about Mr. Foose. If I had a nickel for every "nice guy" friend of mine, who tripped over his own feet around every corner, I'd have about $683.41.

His whole story is lame. I have also stuck up for friends, after they messed up. But they have to do their best to correct what they messed up, if they want any help from me.

If that is Mr. Foose's best, I am not impressed.
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Jim you can run after him if you wish, however I will not be a part of it. It would just be :deadhorse in my book.
He knew he was wrong and admitted it, what more do you want? Blood? :rolleyes:

Wes says he is a good guy, thats good enough for me. We all make mistakes, thats a given, but this is over in my book.

Mr Foose has done a lot more good than harm to our hobby, I doubt he would try to hurt his reputation over a 150.00 tegu. JMHO
 
I think Ken's a good guy who has done a good job of running a good business for a good number of years. Is that enough usage of the word 'good' to get my point across?

He fell back on his own firm belief that he has had an honest career, a good business, good staff, etc and defended himself as such. It's hard to fault him. And I'm quite sure the employees responsible for posting ads will not make the same mistake again.

Once again- GOOD GUY.
 
Ken's the guy who taught me how to tell the difference between Argentine and Colombian tegus... The pattern is the more visually obvious differnce of course, but patterns are muteable and he aimed me at counting the loreal scales, that being the taxonomically signifigant difference between the two...

Last time I talked to him, he was running his shop seven days a week and would generally throw ads on Kingsnake in the evening afterwards. It's understandable that, given his schedule and the volume he handles, a mislabeled photograph can happen. One thing I would stake anything I had on though... There's no way anyone who paid for an Argentine would have been sent a Colombian. The mistake would have been caught and corrected before anything ended up being shipped.
 
There are a bunch of well respected guys coming here and sticking up for Ken and it probably doesn't make sense that he would purposely post an ad with an incorrect picture.

However a statement like this;
Sorry you will never buy from me, but then again, you are part of the 10% that don't come to the store.
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is just like the "you don't know too much about tegus" or "it was sold to me as such so that's what it is".

It is this non-caring attitude that says volumes IMO and not the actual mistakes, which we all make.
 
Seamus Haley said:
Ken's the guy who taught me how to tell the difference between Argentine and Colombian tegus... The pattern is the more visually obvious differnce of course, but patterns are muteable and he aimed me at counting the loreal scales, that being the taxonomically signifigant difference between the two...

Last time I talked to him, he was running his shop seven days a week and would generally throw ads on Kingsnake in the evening afterwards. It's understandable that, given his schedule and the volume he handles, a mislabeled photograph can happen. One thing I would stake anything I had on though... There's no way anyone who paid for an Argentine would have been sent a Colombian. The mistake would have been caught and corrected before anything ended up being shipped.
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Yes, for the most part you can go by the loreal scales, however not always. He is a picture of an Argentine black n white with only one loreal scale on each side:

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So even though it holds true in most cases that the Colombians have one loreal scale and the Argentines have two, it can sometimes vary to some degree in rare cases.

Colombians are smooth scales, and Argentines have beaded scales, the Argentines also have the lateral line that runs down their sides. The Colombians also have a more narrow pointed snout, where the Argentine's are more blunt and rounded. Also at no point in the Colombians life do they have the green heads, this is only found in the Argentine black n whites.
 
The first time the price was $150.00, same animal.
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Is this the same animal that was sold already? :shrug01:

I can't understand why his employees keep taking pictures of the wrong tegu. :rofl: I also can't believe the stupidity of pulling the same scam so quickly after being called out on the other ones.
 
kmurphy said:
Is this the same animal that was sold already? :shrug01:

I can't understand why his employees keep taking pictures of the wrong tegu. :rofl: I also can't believe the stupidity of pulling the same scam so quickly after being called out on the other ones.
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No not the same exact animal, but the same species, a Colombian tegu being sold as an Argentine.
 
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Ken you were here read the new posts, and pulled the ad, you have nothing to say?
 
Ken Foose has been a great person to me and is the hardest working man i know. I was in his store this weekend and picked up a great Albino ball from him. This is just to show my support for one of my good friends
 
bowsback said:
Ken Foose has been a great person to me and is the hardest working man i know. I was in his store this weekend and picked up a great Albino ball from him. This is just to show my support for one of my good friends
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So in your opinion it is OK to misrepresent animals and charge a much higher price for them, as well as calling them something they are not? The price tag was $220.00 on a $15.00 W.S. and maybe $40.00 Retail on that tegu. I will also say, it is mighty strange it it not higher priced animals at cheaper prices. It is always cheaper animals that have the higher price tags and misrepresentation.

I would also like to know how he knew the sex of this animal?

How many times is this now? Is the seller the one that needs to answer, I mean they are the one collecting the cash. The help is hired by them, and that puts all the blame straight on him.

I would also like to know why it was listed under the lizards section, and not the monitors and tegu section?
 
bowsback said:
Ken Foose has been a great person to me and is the hardest working man i know. I was in his store this weekend and picked up a great Albino ball from him. This is just to show my support for one of my good friends
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Show your support all you want. But if you look at the thread 2 times in a weeks time span the same species which a is cheaper and many consider an unfavorbale animal has been placed for sale as a more expensive, more desirable captive. To top it off the new ad was in a different section.
Ken, I'm starting to think your apology email to me wasnt sincere :rolleyes:


~Kevin Luzzi
 
i will show my support he did me right great price great snake and its not the first time why wouldnt i show my support for that i apperciated your input why cant mine be appreciated also
 
bowsback said:
i will show my support he did me right great price great snake and its not the first time why wouldnt i show my support for that i apperciated your input why cant mine be appreciated also
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You have shown your support :thumbsup:

Now let's not make the thread about you because it's not :D
 
Wow!! This just happened a second time?
 
shrap said:
Wow!! This just happened a second time?
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Sammy, if you count the "unusually marked and colored Brook's", which is actually a hybrid, and the "peanut butter brook's" that wasn't, that actually makes four. And those are just the ones we know about.

They were sold at prices in line with those labels, when they were actually worth much less.
 
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