Kevin, your game is obviously not working. It should be clear to you that the rest of the readers are far more intelligent than you, because they understand what they read. You are so busy trying to make me look bad because we used to sell venomoids (like I said a total of 10-15 were sold before we stopped) that you are rufusing to answer questions about what you are doing. Let me see if I can simplify it for a simple minded person like you. Each of the points below end with a question to you. I DARE YOU TO ANSWER EACH QUESTION instead of your useral rambling on in an attempt to adoid answering questions. I BET YOU CAN't DO IT!!! Go ahead, prove me wrong...
1) Yes, ERJ sold about 10-15 venomoids than stopped over a year ago because we saw that it was wrong. If you would have read my post, you would have seen what everyone else saw, and that is that we DID feel venomoids were wrong. We stopped over a year ago, why are you still doing it???
2)I NEVER said a VET did the few that we had, it was Ritchie Rich, the same man that trained you. I am not saying he is not qualified, we did not do enough to form an opinion about his qualifications, nor do I know what qualifications he has. For all I know he very well may be a vet, I never asked him. The venomoids were here when I took the job, so how can I be responcible for that. I do know that you are NOT qualified to do the surgery right, and you prove it by your remarks about antibiotics. So tell us, How DO you figure the dose for your snakes, since you admit that you do not have a scale??
3) You Wrote: "which Ray himself sent animals to be fixed". That is another lie, but you already know that. At least we stopped dealing in them a long time ago. Why is it that you do not want to admit that it is you doing the hacking?
4)You wrote "But they didn't make that much money like they planned because of their own business ethics, so therefore they couldn't do it." You have no clue how much we make, and if our business ethics are so bad, why are we still in business after 13 years? What is it that you do for a living? Flip burgers, and hack snakes?
5) you wrote: "Then it was the VET thing, but yet he has no reciepts from a vet for the surgeries. He won't address his claims of ethics on that point" This is now the third or forth time that I have stated that it was the same person who trained you (Ritchy Ritch) You really can not read, can you? Now if you are saying that it was unethical for Ritchy to do the surgeries on the snakes we had (over a year ago), why did you train under him? and why is it ethical for you to hack without propper meds?
6) you wrote: "Now, he is ranting about pictures," Well, where are they??? you have been lying about sending pictures for days now. You must have some, because you sent some to Ken, or were those just olf file photos you save to rip people off? I am not the only one asking for pics. How long are you going to lie about that???
7) You wrote: "As far as the dosage thing, different animals take different dosages. Or in more easier to understand terms, different species take different dosages. There is no single dosage for every animal of the same size, different species have different reactions." You are really showing your ignorance here. Tell us the dose of Baytril for a monocle cobra, since you just hacked two last week. Tell us all the dose and how you came up with it (without a scale)
8) You wrote: "Please keep in mind that this is a sample of Ray's approach to business, he doesn't admit anything was done wrong by him," WRONG AGAIN, I admitted a long time ago that it was wrong to ever do business with a lying crook (that lies and steals from his own "friends") like you. Ther, happy? I admitted to doing something wrong.
0) you wrote: "Although Ray will not admit this, there are alot of people that have dealt with him and won't ever make that mistake again. " You are wrong again. I will admit this. There is NO BUSINESS of anytype that has ever pleased every customer every time. I freely admit that we have not always been able to please everyone, and have no doubt lost customers (in your case it is a blessing). Like someone else asked you on this thread, If we are so bad, why have you guys continued to do business with us for well over a year???
10) you wrote: "If Ray was so against selling venomoids, then why did he sell them? surely a man of his faith would not let his morals down for any amount of money, right? Hmmm, very interesting" Because I do what I am told, just like you do at the Burger Bin you work at. Ricky and I agreed that we would sell off what was there, and NOT get any more venomoids, and that is exactly what we did. Kevin you are not going to make me look bad for correcting a problem over a year ago, but feel free to keep trying. Why is it again that you still do it?
11) you wrote: "When I said that all of the animals were sick and died, I didn't mean it literally, if you read my first post I stated what died and what was still alive. Yes, there were some good animals in the bunch" How can this be??? you wrote that I have some dealy virus floating around the shop, so how did a few escape unharmed (untill you got them)???
12) you wrote: "WHY DOES RAY MAKE THE PHONECALLS AND WORK THERE IF HE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY HIM?? " Because it is my job. I get paid to do that, just as you're paid to flip burgers. Now if someone is unhappy with one of the burgers or fries, is it you that is responcible or the manager or owner??? I am not putting any blaime on Ricky, because as I see it there is nothing to blaime anyone for. You have lied so much on this thread, that I honestly do not believe ANYTHING you say. I believe that IF the snakes died, you killed them, or overdosed them or underdosed them. Say what you want, but that is what we believe.
13) Kevin you just want the blaime for your killing the snakes to fall on me because you were too irresponcible to do the right thing. You know our TOS, because you and I have gone over it on the phone, and Ken knows it. Oru TOS states that if anything arrives dead or even if you are dissatisfied with your shipment, all you have to do is notify us within 24 hours. Is that too much to ask for??? The bottom line of this whole thread (and putting all your other silliness aside) is that if you opend the box and the animals were dead or as bad as you want people to think, all you had to do is pick up the phone and call us, and it would have been handled. At very least send us an e-mail. But no, you waited 4 days to report the snake that supposively arrived dead, then continued to report deaths up to 10 days latter. You know that you were wrong here, and instead of lying so much to cover your irresponcibility, and your name calling, you should have sticked with the facts. You spent (and continue to do so) more time trying to make me, and only me, look bad so that readers would side with you. Now you are upset because you made an ass of yourself, and continue to do so. You are embarrassed, and continue to refuse to directly answer everyones questions to you. Instead you try to redirect the issues back to me somehow (like trying to make ME look bad because of something we corrected over a year ago). Again, I know that you will not directly answer the above questions or points, but I challenge you to if you are man enough to. Come on kevin, here is your big chance to finally PROVE me wrong in front of everyone. I say that you will not read this post and answer each question directly and truethfully. Please prove me wrong. SHOW us all that I am wrong instead of throwing out silly accusations that you would have no way of proving (even if you were telling the truth).
We all are waiting. I bet you can't do it!
Ray Hunter
We discussed the physiological and ethical aspects of them and the mentallity and motivations of the average void buyer. He was completely honest about snakes that had been sent out, mortallity rate, etc. By the end of the conversation, he had adopted a new outlook. He also said that they still had a few venomoids in stock, and that they had to be sold. But once those were sold, he would no onger deal in them. That was over a year ago. I followed his site to see them disapear, saw him at Columbia (he had them behing the table if memory serves). And since those last were sold, he has not sold them since. He kept his word. That speaks a book to me on his integrity.
