Kevin, I have read all of both of these threads, and joined this evening just to write this one post to you.
First off, I will tell you that I am NOT a friend of Ray Hunter, but I am a satisfied repeat customer of his. So please don't start the “Ray’s Friend” crap with me like you did Mr. Goushaw. I have been to Ray’s warehouse on many occasions, and aside from the occasional cobra fecal that one might expect to see, he takes very good care of his animals. They are kept hydrated, and the cages are cleaner than I would expect from one person maintaining a large warehouse with approximately 700 animals coming in and going out at any given time. He has a separate area that he keeps animals that come in sick or questionable. I have at times tried to purchase B-grade animals from him, and he will refuse to sell me something that is not up to standard. I know many other customers of Ray’s that ALL have the same opinion of Ray and his M.O. for running that operation. Knowing him as I do, I find it highly unlikely that he would send B-grade, or less as you claim, animals to you after the many orders you have placed with him, and the money you both claim Ken has paid him for the animals he has sent you over the past year. We call that ‘career suicide’. I work in the Psych field in Palm Beach, and am no doctor, but Ray strikes me as the entirely opposite person than that who would do something like that. He appears to be above average intelligence, with quite an extensive medical knowledge, as well as his knowledge of venomous snakes, and his somewhat bizarre ability to handle venomous snakes. No, sir, I’m sorry, but I will never believe he would do as you say, and apparently none of the other thread posters believed you either. Never the less, IF the animals were as bad as you claimed them to be, you would have been able to spot that immediately as you unpacked them, at which time ANYONE in this biz, as you are, would phone Ray or Ricky (who is ultimately responsible for every animal that goes in, is in, or goes out of that facility) and complained straight away. NOT between 4 to 10 days after the fact! And since Ken has stated that you have surgically altered all of the Monocle Cobras within 4 days of getting them (which I happen to know is not wise to put that kind of stress on an imported, parasitic, as per Ray’s own admission of not having treated them for parasites, snake that by your admission was not afforded pre-surgical antibiotics) it seems quite believable that the snakes that died may very well have died during or soon after your attempt to conduct your venomoid surgery on them. I realize you shall retort with “I never admitted that I perform the surgeries myself”, but you refuse on many occasions to deny it also, which infers that you are doing the surgery. You made a claim that Ray sent you a five foot Gaboon Viper that weighed out at 4 pounds, than state that you don’t even have a scale to which to weigh the snake with. Then you refuse (or ignore) MANY peoples request to post the pictures of the snake to prove your accusations against Ray. Fortunately it appears that everyone has seen through your ill game against Ray, and as it turned out, post by post you continue to make yourself look more and more foolish by side-stepping valid questions, and contradicting your own statements over and over. Your name-calling, and consequent level 15 warning level further validate Ray’s remarks of your childishness. Then you turn on all the thread posters, calling them “Idiots” and rude names, because they either saw through you numerous false statements, or asked you a question that you were uncomfortable about, causing you to ignore the questions all together.
From reading the latest thread, I see no reason, other than out of malice, to have ever brought up the subject of your dealings with Ray (be they direct, or indirect). This after you promised him that you would drop the whole issue to get him to stop posting posts that were frankly making you look like a fibbing 10 year old. Then after members ask you and Ray to take the issue back to the propper thread, you have to try and get the last word in against Ray, who has already excussed himself to the appropriate thread. And then have the audacity to state that the post had nothing to do with him, even though one whole paragraph is used to slam him, and even mentions his name three times in it???? How can you ever expect anyone to accept your claims of being an honest and truthful person after such a bold face lie? Can it be any wonder to you that people that don’t even know Ray are believing his side of the story instead of yours, when you are caught is such an outrageous lie? You, sir, should have quit while you were only a little behind, and let this shame to you pass by, instead of going to another thread and sneaking indirect marks against Ray into a thread that you would have been able to be a part of and state your views without ever bringing up an issue that should be most embarrassing to you. But then, judging by your posts, perhaps you are not a mature enough businessman that you would be embarrassed after being made such a fool by yourself.
I realize that I shall become another target of your name-calling or whatever, but no matter, as I said, I just wanted to make this statement. I do not sell animals, so there is nothing you can say about me that could harm me in any way.
You have indeed proven yourself to be an untruthful person, as well as quite childish. Again, reading all 15 levels of your warning level alone backs up that statement.
I too am curious to finally see if you can directly answer the question that has been put to you too many times to count..... Do you do venomoid surgery? That requires a “yes” or a “no” answer. Should not be too hard for you to answer. DO YOU? Or HAVE YOU?
Amazed,
Jerry Stano
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