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I have read that F2 Half(50%) Dwarf Burms tend to be smaller than the F1 Half Dwarfs. With the claimed average size of adult female F2 Half Dwarfs being about 2-2.2 meters(6.5-7.2 feet) or about the same as a large female pure Dwarf Burmese Python.

Is this true? I ask because it does not quite sound right - to me. Normally - I would think being a 50% Mainland Burms or about 9-10 feet.
 
I have gotten a female 50% dwarf Burm. She is presently about 28" long and 250 grams.
 

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She isn't a 25% dwarf. At least that is not what she was sold to me as.

I bought her 50%(half) dwarf het for albino. She actually has some albino litter mates. This would mean that she is an F2 (2nd generation half dwarf) at least. Most likely the mating of a F1 half dwarf(dwarf grandfather/albino mainland grandmother) het albino, with either another F1 half dwarf het albino or an F2 half dwarf albino.

So far she seems to be doing fine - eating F/T rat pups/weanlings. And she is taming down nicely. Still a bit cage aggressive. But once outside the cage she is does find with handling.

I was told that she was only about 2-3 months old at the time I bought her. But I do wonder if she isn't a bit(maybe a month) older.
 
Sorry. I meant 50%. Was one of the parents an albino? If not then your burm would be 66% het albino. I got a male 100% dwarf. He is about 42" now. And just over a year. Still thinner than my balls of about the same age


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Errol is correct. If both parents were hets, she'd be a 66% possible het. She can only be a 100% het if one of the parents was a visual albino.
 
Sorry. I meant 50%. Was one of the parents an albino? If not then your burm would be 66% het albino.
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Well - she was listed as being 100 % het for albino. So it would suggest that one parent was an Albino half dwarf(F2), and the other was a half dwarf het for albino(F1 or F2). So she could be either an F2 or F3.

I got a male 100% dwarf. He is about 42" now. And just over a year. Still thinner than my balls of about the same age
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He should be much slimmer than a similar length Ball Python. I also have a similar sized(28-30") male Ball python to compare my female 50% dwarf to. I can tell his girth is quite a bit larger than her girth is. My pinstripe male Ball is eating small/medium rats(75-150 g).

Pure Progschai Burms are quite slim - when compared with similar sized mainland Burms or Ball pythons. Basically similar to the way that Dwarf and Super Dwarf slimmer than mainland retics.

I am actually very surprised that he(42") is that long at that age. Most pure Dwarf males aren't over 36-40" at the 18 month mark. Keep in mind a pure Dwarf male usually become sexually mature at about 50-54" range and about 3-4 years old. And they seem to max out about 6 feet(11+ years old).
 
Also if you can point me in the direction of more dwarf Burm info it would be appreciated. Most sources I found lead back to the same caresheet


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I have found that a lot of the best info on Dwarf and Half Dwarf Burms tends to come from the UK. This is at least partly due to the Burm ban by the Lacey Act - as a lot of smaller burm breeders who had dwarfs or half dwarfs before the ban - actually got out because of that ban.

In the UK they have F3 & F4 Dwarf Burms which tend to have a temperament more like that of mainland burms. One of the best care sheets for Dwarf Burms I have found online is - from Snakes N Adders on YouTube. The 1st in his intermediate series - is on the Dwarf Burmese Python. It is a little over 9 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8O2einmRm4&t=0s&list=PL0kXIDoS2ITLLkUcPIsp8t3ZlKShJUtEE&index=2


Also Bob Clark has a video on taking eggs from a couple of Dwarf Burm females. And he still sells pure Dwarf Burms.
 
BTW - nice looking Dwarf male and ball python.

As far as addition information on Dwarf & half dwarf Burms - most of the information I have found tend to be in little information nuggets from either older forum posts or videos. These usually come from fairly in depth online searches.

Also I would also suggest - if possible try to find breeders either in the US or UK and talk to them through online media. Often these breeder can give you some first hand info from them, even if they no longer breed them.
 
Not sure of the generation. Got it from a friend. Supposed to be from Bob Clark stock. From what I hear about their temperament he was already calm. I handle him daily, more than once if possible. Trying to work on his cage defensiveness.


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Well - I know that Bob Clark currently sells F1 & F2 pure Dwarfs. I am not sure about anything beyond that. Still the F2s are known to sometimes tame/calm down enough to be handled on a regular basis. If your friend breed him from Bob Clark stock - then he could even be an F3, which would be even better.

As for the cage defensiveness - that is something that I have heard many pure dwarfs tend to have, even the relatively calm ones.
 
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