Wilomn
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Seamus Haley said:There is a middle ground here... the idea of mutual satisfaction is one which often seems to go unspoken in such discussions but it certainly deserves a place. What's so tough about the idea that two people can find pleasure in one another... and by finding the other person enjoying themselves as well, make it that much better?
This can apply on either a pure physical level or that emotional stuff, to a point (there are certain limitations to just how many emotions guys have, women seem to have ones there aren't even names for)- by making someone else happy, happiness is in turn granted. The act of giving pleasure is in itself pleasureable... C'mon now... Even a jaded guy like Brian's gotta admit that there's something exciting about getting a woman all hot and bothered and then having her end up satisfied... there's an aspect of ego and greed in there too, guys who manage to think of women are in turn rewarded with her responses, making their own experiences that much better.
None of this should be new information but the conversation seemed to be drifting dangerously close to some of those college mentality "I got mine, who cares about her?" kind of statements and the reverse of "I only care about her, my needs are unimportant" is just as much of a crock. It's all about mutual satisfaction.
Seamus, you are so RIGHT that I thought it didn't need saying at all. You see, there is a difference between a man and a boy. Ladies, most of you have probably been in the situation where you had a boy and wished you had a man. Think carefully about who you vote for if you haven't as yet. Are there boys on that poll?
I think Seamus is moving it away from the kink aspect and closer to that ever elusive aspect of SATISFACTION. After all, anyone can tickle your ass with a feather but NOT everyone can turn your entire body into an overstimulated ganglia.
Like I said before, it REALLY doesn't need a whole lot of talking over if it's what/who you are.
I would suspect that most of us have heard the girl say "stop, stop, please stop I just can't take anymore," as she's melting into a puddle, not just creating that puddle but physically melting into it. BUT, and here is the key question, how many of us have heard that from a girl who actually MEANT it? And Brian I don't mean that you've pounded her into marmalade, I mean she's a quivering mass of over stimulated neurons that simply is so close to overload she needs to stop and catch her breath.
That's the target that should be aimed for, don't you think?