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Robin,

By the way, I almost forgot this: Your apparent attempted, and in my opinion rather pitiful, attempt to demean me through the use of inflamatory remarks and insults was a failure. Nice try, but rather childish on your part, as I see it. As for me, I asked for some evvidence, and if what you supplied was genuine, then I got some - maybe not as much as I would like, but it is a start in the right direction. I don't care if it was a fish that upchucked it in my face - hell you would cringe at where I have found evidence before. It is something that needs to be dealth with to get to the truth. I can deal with that any day. Thanks.

Best regards,
Glenn B

And on another more pleasent note: Goodnight to the TBT, wherever you are! (This is a secret coded message that I could not resist - no one here need take offense as no this is not trolling).
 
Hey

Proof is optional, but recommended if you would like to remove any doubts about the truth of what you are posting. But this is purely up to you, just as the believability of what you post is purely up to the reader of your words.

From the Rules for Posting on the B.O.I.

Guess if you want to change the rules you may want to take it up with the Webslave, Glenn. Later..
 
Kelli,

I am not attempting to change the rules but to uphold the integrity of the BOI at the same time as making sure people don't get shafted. While the rules of the BOI may not require evidence or proof, in order for you to have a truly respectful (of others) and fair minded person believe your claims, proof should be required by that type of a person. When people start believing all accusations just because someone of reputation made them, or just because a friend made them, well that would surely lead to a sorry state of affairs in no time. As for taking it up with the webslave, I need not take that up with Rich Z.. His magnificent minions (especially Ritchie Luna - you may remember him) and the many others have often asked for proof - moderators and non-moderators alike. If you don't like me asking, don't supply any - it goes to show the true character of the accuser.

I wonder, are you afraid to supply evidence, or are you above providing any? I seem to remember you yourself admitting that proof should have been given - did I read you wrong or are you just someone who changes her opinions as the world turns or at the convenience of the moment, or were you simply being facetious?
Glenn, you are right, proof should be required here.
I am not saying you should not be able to change your mind, but you surely seem to do it rather conveniently especially when working as part of a tag team against a solo opponent.

I am surely not afraid to confront those who would condemn without sufficient evidence of some sort. If you would like to open a new thread under the Suggestions page or the General BS page, or add to the thread about the integrity of the BOI, regarding whether or not to change the rules of the BOI, I will probably contribute.

Remember proof was never required in witch hunts; thjerefor the analogy. However, when evidence and proof are required, it seems to me that we raise ourselves above they who would accuse, try and sentence without it. As much as I like to see the guilty get what they have coming, and I do like to see them get it good, I like to make darned sure they are guilty first, then you can fry em as far as I am concerned. With regard to this stuff, you choose which type of person you prefer to be. I have already chosen for myself and am quite content with my choice.

All the best,
Glenn B

And with that, I must truly beg off any further, with a simple: Goodnight, its been interesting and educational.
 
Hey Glenn.

Im starting to see a little of that ten year old boy in you too! Im 30, but Im a big fan of old tv and radio shows. How old were you back then if you dont mind me asking? You ve pretty much got it down. Although I have to correct you on one thing. You have to throw in the Brooklynese accent at the end so we can get the full effect.

“we’ve had a few laughs and now its time for toodle-oo, au revoir, auf Wiedersehen, and inka-dinka-doo.”


“good night Mrs. Calabash , where-ev-ah ya ahr.”

LOL!
 
By the way, I almost forgot this: Your apparent attempted, and in my opinion rather pitiful, attempt to demean me through the use of inflamatory remarks and insults was a failure. Nice try, but rather childish on your part, as I see it. As for me, I asked for some evvidence, and if what you supplied was genuine, then I got some - maybe not as much as I would like, but it is a start in the right direction. I don't care if it was a fish that upchucked it in my face - hell you would cringe at where I have found evidence before. It is something that needs to be dealth with to get to the truth. I can deal with that any day. Thanks.

i wasnt trying to demean you with imflamitory remarks, i was just going along with your admitted trolling and "baiting" analogy.

as far as you believing me or not or my proff or not i really dont give a rats ass either, i know of several people whom saw these same animals and pictures in her photo album so if you do or dont believe me , its really no lose to me, i could care less what you think.

i am just trying to show laura for what she is... period.


and as far as the integrity on the BOI and your issue and stance on it... good for you.. i agree ingegrity is key but ion a public forum with human beings tempers and emtions will roll regardless, sometimes more than others.

also just a question for my own personal knowledge..... who in the hell named you the BOI ingregrity police? and how do we know you are not some fraud or con?? do you have proof? physical proof? not just word of mouth or positive comments about you from others but verifyable,physical proof.. i mean the hard facts!!!!!

have you ever lied?
 
Ok, you are right, I did say that. So what? Look, my proof is relaying the conversations I had with Laura, and the deals I have had with her. I guess my word and the word of several other people that have posted similar experiences are not proof enough. I suppose the pictures Robin posted aren't good enough because they don't have Laura's name on them.

By the way Glenn, have you ever bought an animal from Laura? Have you ever spoken to her? Have she ever purchased any of your animals? Oh really? Again, a qupte from the Rules:

This forum is designed to serve the purpose of giving anyone interested in the buying and selling of herptile related merchandise the opportunity to inquire about, or find already existing information concerning a person or business with whom they are considering doing business with. This is NOT the place for flame wars of any kind.

Why are you even posting in this thread Glenn? If you have a beef with me, or you question my integrity and honesty, why not do a search here on the BOI for H.I.S.S., you will find nothing but good things posted about me.
 
Glenn's rapidly approaching his 70s. The wrinkles are hidden behind all the unnaturally colored hair.




:D



Okay seriously, I'm going to step in at this point and pretend to be a voice of reason. I know Glenn, I know Kelli, I know Robin. You're all good people and would get along quite well in person I'm sure. Going back and forth with eachother is doing nothing to strengthen the points made in this thread.
 
Here's the end of the discussion-

Is Laura a bad guy? Well how do we judge things?

Has Laura been dishonest? She has been deceptive in dealing with sellers when making purchases. She has listed sales as being to raise money to pay medical bills but accepted trades in the same ad.

Has Laura shown disregard for the health of her animals? She has stated that she buys leopard geckos and subjects them to improper temperatures, selling off animals at the first sign of failing to thrive under those conditions.

Had Laura made poor decisions in regards to the health of her own child? The continued purchases of animals only to sell them 'at a loss' to pay for medical expenses that are recurring does show a disregard for the importance of having money available to provide for her daughters health.

Has Laura sent out sick animals to unsuspecting customers? She has sent at least one customer as seen in this thread a leopard gecko with hookworms and an extremely low body weight. While she did send money to pay for vet bills after being called out here, the demonstration of her animals as a financial burden just strengthens the argument that she should not be purchasing animals when she needs money to care for her daughter.

Does any of this make Laura a bad guy? Well gosh, she's really nice to talk to.
 
Ladies Please!

Why are you so concerned with what Glenn thinks? Please stop it with your bantering. Ignore him, that is what I have been doing, he will go away. This is not a court room. It doesn't matter if Glenn agrees with everything you have said, he is just one of hundreds on the BOI. You do not have to convince him of anything.

Please, this is about Laura. Ignore anything else from Glenn and stick with the facts about Laura.
 
Thank you

JMelissa, you are a voice of reason. I should just stop responding to his posts. Maybe I care a little bit too much what other people think of me, but some people aren't going to like me or agree with me no matter what I say or do. That is their God given right, and I will try harder to respect that.

Peace
 
Several months ago

A while ago a seller posted in KS two ads for two different baby ball pythons. At that point they were posted independently as nice looking, normal ball pythons. They were up for sale for several days, but no takers. The ad was then removed.

A couple of days later another ad showed up, same animals, same pictures, although this time the two ball pythons were siblings (never mentioned in the first two previous ads), and also possible (50%) hetero for a highly priced morph. Anyone can argue the seller omitted mentioning they were siblings and possible heteros in the first two ads, but why?

A few days later another ad was posted which stated:

66% het albino blushing ball

All the pics below show this animal in shed. So, these pics will not do her justice at all.

Mother was a HetAxanthicXHetAlbino from a axanthic X Albino breeding. Father was het for Albino. Goodness I hate hets! I don't even know what all of this means - if anything; it just sounded like soemthing when I got this baby.

I am slowly moving my young ball collection to focus on beardies, Leos, and to a smaller extent certain boas.
Since I do not know anything about ball hets or worth and no longer have my paperwork due to a hard drive crash, I am offering this baby for $155 plus shipping. Less than I paid by far ($325), but I don't have the space to grow it out and prove just because I no longer heave the papers.

At that point in time the seller claimed to know nothing about heteros or their worth (although “they had been bought for $325”). It was also surprising that the “paperwork” was lost in a computer crash (paperwork is signed and not usually stored in a computer), and thus it would not be possible to prove out the genetic origin of the animals (if the seller knew the genetic origin of the animals, why not proving them).

The whole thread can be read in the link below:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/for...&threadid=9542&highlight=changing+AND+heteros

Again, although questionable, there was no proof of wrong doing and that’s why that post ended in the General Business Section and not in the BOI.
 
Poor health of the animals. Obvious Extremely poor husbandry techniques(if they can be called that). Misrepresented ads and unethical marketing practices. Anything else said is just emotion.
Those are the facts!

;)
Chad Gill
BlazinReptiles
[email protected]
 
You do not have to convince him of anything.

Please, this is about Laura. Ignore anything else from Glenn and stick with the facts about Laura.

I was not going to reply further but I am often prompted to write by people who make such remarks. That would be very convenient either my remaining silent or someone else ignoring me. Remainging ignorant is often convenient.

As for the statement made, it is correct, they don't have to convince me of anything. Aah, the voice of reason at Salem... Cottn Mather said the same thing about someone's great-great-great grandmother when she claimed not to be made of wood... They killed her anyhow when she floated like a duck.

If the argument I make had nothing to it, then no one would have responded to it as vehemently as they have; I think they would have already ignored it. But you may ignore whatever you like; just please remember one or two things: By ignoring things you become ignorant of them. Ignorance is bliss to some but, to those who care to be well informed ignorance is just plain old ignorance!

And no this is not just about Laura, it is also about whoever posts on this thread, that is why it is a forum. It is a place for discussion, and to ignore other members of a discussion and just key in on ones own beliefs and ignore evidence when trying to black list someone as a bad person is commonly known as a witch hunt or inquisition.

Best regards,
Glenn B;)
 
I should have added: or by the way to key in on just the evidence that helps your side... All the pertinent evidence should be weighed before coming to a conclusion.
 
I will repeat myself.

E2MacPets said:
Here's the end of the discussion-

Is Laura a bad guy? Well how do we judge things?

Has Laura been dishonest? She has been deceptive in dealing with sellers when making purchases. She has listed sales as being to raise money to pay medical bills but accepted trades in the same ad.

Has Laura shown disregard for the health of her animals? She has stated that she buys leopard geckos and subjects them to improper temperatures, selling off animals at the first sign of failing to thrive under those conditions.

Had Laura made poor decisions in regards to the health of her own child? The continued purchases of animals only to sell them 'at a loss' to pay for medical expenses that are recurring does show a disregard for the importance of having money available to provide for her daughters health.

Has Laura sent out sick animals to unsuspecting customers? She has sent at least one customer as seen in this thread a leopard gecko with hookworms and an extremely low body weight. While she did send money to pay for vet bills after being called out here, the demonstration of her animals as a financial burden just strengthens the argument that she should not be purchasing animals when she needs money to care for her daughter.

Does any of this make Laura a bad guy? Well gosh, she's really nice to talk to.
 
again.....

also just a question for my own personal knowledge..... who in the hell named you the BOI ingregrity police? and how do we know you are not some fraud or con?? do you have proof? physical proof? not just word of mouth or positive comments about you from others but verifyable,physical proof.. i mean the hard facts!!!!!

have you ever lied?

oh and by the way steven, glenn is the one who keeps bring this back off topic.... and certainly that is against BOI TOS and therefor integrity police, deputy dip<font color=red>[**censored**]</font>... is breaking the TOS of the BOI and not keeping on topic ....... real integrity there ,stirring the pot more when the thread was just beging to die... because you sure could have replied to that a couple days ago when it was first posed..... are you on "patrol",trolling" or putting out more "bait"?????
 
This will be my final reply to this thread. If Robin seeks any of the proofs of my integrity that she seems to be questioning, I would ask that she does so on another thread by doing an inquiry about me on the BOI. Of course, if she feels so compelled she can also post either a Good Guy or bad Guy post about me. Thanks

Now at risk of having to go to HELL I will make the remainder of my final reply in this thread:

I did not post a good guy post about myself, so what do you want me to give proof about. Do you seek verifiable proof about my integrity. Is my integrity being questioned? If so why not open an inquiry about me in the BOI?

You question whether or not I have ever lied. What does that have to do with this? I will answer nonetheless - of course I have lied. In fact I have even sometimes lied in the performance of my duties to further a criminal investigation and this has been held by federal courts to be legal and ethical. I, however, have never lied under oath, nor have I ever lied on the BOI to the best of my recollection nor have I ever lied during the buying or selling of an item. I am not making a claim about my integrity - I leave that for others to do. Nor am I making a bad guy claim against someone with what I believe to be insufficient evidence. If however you wish to make a claim against me, feel free to do so if you have facts that suggest me to be less than a fairly moral person. I claim to be not more than that, by standards of morality of my own choosing (and I think they are fairly conservative except regarding my religious affiliations if any).

Regarding business deals, I can provide feedback from several business deals. All feedback is excellent, and some people have stated that things I sold were actually better than I described. I can also supply PayPal receipts or Ebay records (or other online auction site records) to show the deals were actually made.

I can also supply a copy of my Federal Firearms license as a Collector of Curios and relics. I believe this required the federal government to do some sort of background checks on me.

If you would like proof of my integrity as related to my employment: well I am subjected to a federal background investigation approximately every 5 years. I am also subject to random drug screening. I am also subject to the Giglio decision regarding my testimony in federal courts. I am not at liberty to divulge findings of any federal background investigations to you, heck I am not even privy to the findings except that I keep passing them. However, you can easily check federal regulations about my employment to find that these checks are routinely carreied out. I would lose my job if an investigation revealed any serious offense.

As to having sufficient integrity to testify in federal court, and having integrity during my testimony, you can purchase copies the federal court records from trials and other proceeding during which I have testified. My testimony has neer been censored, and my integrity not doubted by the federal court system. If it had been - well then I would not still be a federal criminal investigator or at least would not be performing any duties for which I could be caled to testify thanks to the Giglio decision. I can supply case names and dates, and the court of record. You can see about ordring and paying for the records.

Would you also like to see the awards of merit I have received from my employer. I can make copies available to you if you would like to pay for the copying and the postage. I do not own a digital camera or scanner, but I could take regular photos of them, and have a photo disk made up and then post them here. Send me the cash for the photo developing and disk, and I'll do just that. I also recently passed a drug screening test. Would you like the results. Once they are mailed to me I can also send you a copy at your expense (I found out I passed by telephone - but that was no surprise to me).

If you desire another type of proof as to my integrity - then please be explicit as to what would satisfy you in that regard. I will gladly supply any evicence, within legal limits and within reason and the bounds of my morality, that I am capable of supplying - for which you are willing to pay.

You can also pay to have a criminal history check run on me. I think you will find it conclusive that my integrity regarding any type of convictions for felonies or misdemeanors is exemplary. Sorry, I would do this myself as I do have easy access to such computer sustems, but such would be unethical and quite illegal for me to do because of my employment.

You say not to give you statements from other people, and I wonder why. I never said such was not verifiable evidence as you seem to suggest. What I thought was lacking in statements appearing in this post, was that statements against Laura were all from parties who claim to have been wronged and not one of those people early on offered anything but their statements. They did not offer statements from others saying - yes I have direct knowledge of that transaction - as I recall. They each offered their individual experiences. Sure these were evidence to some extent, but are generally considered the weakest form of evidence. Not one, early on in this thread, would produce any copy of an email, or a picture or a receipt or a vets bill, not until many requests for such had been made. Other evidence whcih surely should have been available to back such claims, was not produced when the accusations were made.

Now I wonder, are you raising the ante and seeking more than that regarding my integrity? Hmm, that would be, in my opinion, rather personal and subjective your part. I was only asking for what is routinely asked for by others on the BOI. Are You raising the requirement to meet some sort of personal vendetta against me? At the same time are you questioning, in an obscure way, whether or not I am lying about something on the BOI? If so please be explicit; I think I have proof of my integrity.

A final note: You may wonder why I offer these proofs at your expense. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am calling no one to task about their integrity. If you care to call me to task, and want such proofs that cost money to produce, then go ahead and pay for them. The burden of proof is with the accuser. That was sort of my point in this thread - maybe you missed it. It certainly was not my intention to call anyone's integrity to task, but rather to call to task the integrity of some accusations and of the BOI. I also simply asked for evidence from people who were calling another's itergity to task. Such should be the burden of the accuser, in my opinion, and in the opinion of our current legal system. So if you are questioning my integrity, or if you are saying that my intergity is less than it should be, the burden of proof should be yours - not mine. If you accept that burden, then please feel free to seek out all the evidence you require about my integrity or lack of it.

Sincerely,
Glenn Bartley;)
 
i dont doubt your integrity however i was making point..... you come on here talking bout the ingerity of the BOI in this post asking for solid evidence to prove it..... not just what orthers have seen themselves,dealings they have had and in several point admittance from the person in question.

so i asked because what you want from us could be turned around to you for the simple fact
we dont know you
it was a point to be made and it has been
 
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