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Bad Guy First Choice Reptiles - Nick Mole

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I paid FCR $216 in December 2013 (not a typo) for K. tavetana chams. Right before they were to ship, I was told by Nick and Andy that they had died, they would send me some from the next group which should be in by April. I waited. Nothing. I have been trying to get a refund since May and nothing. They will not return my calls or my emails. Be forewarned. I have advised him that I will file suit if I dont have my money by the end of next week. Not holding my breath.
 
This is pretty surprising. I've done a fair amount of business with Nick, and have always been satisfied.

Put some screen shots of your order, emails, etc.

Also have you told them about this thread?
 
I should add that prior to this, I had had a good experience with FCR. I am pretty easy to work with, but they just have flat out failed to respond.
 
Theresa, post particulars if you have them. If you do a search here on Nick Mole, you will see several Bad Guy threads.
 
Purchased some wax monkey tree frogs from them over phone a couple months ago. They were really helpful And friendly. When I received the frogs I set them up perfect. They were all dead within 2 weeks. I emailed them several times. They never returned my email or gave me a call. I don't know there return police but they could a least returned a email or call.
 
This is pretty surprising.

"Stay away from first choice reptiles!!! "
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427861

" Bad Guy Nick Mole, First Choice Reptiles "
www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453923

"Bad Guy Nick Mole, FCR Bad Guy"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125493

"Bad GuyNick Mole of FCR"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136930

"STAY AWAY from Nick Mole First Choice Reptiles- "
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93720

"STAY AWAY from Nick Mole @ First Choice Reptiles"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97241

"A Nightmare Transaction with First Choice Reptiles"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107545

"Nick Mole "First Choice Reptiles" Inquiry "
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15907

"First Choice Reptiles?"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180698

"Nick Mole of First Choice Reptiles "
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129577

"Nick Mole on usual timing"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146852

"Nick Mole(First Choice Reptiles) good guy"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112344

"First Choice Reptiles-INQUIRY"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113158

"Nick Mole? inquiry"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87401

"Inquiry:Nick Mole 1st choice reptiles?"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99286

"Iquiry: First Choice Reptiles..."
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60729


http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84696

"An Inquiry on Nick Mole"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98590

"First Choice Reptiles."
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293640

" Inquiry of Nick Moles of First Choice REptiles"
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108246

"Nick Mole First Choice Reptiles...? "
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328912

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=317101

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331806

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74620

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351726
 
Response from FCR

So, I got this response a few days after I posted to Board of Inquiry. I immediately advised them that I no longer wanted chams they didn't have yet and wanted my money back. I got no response.

11/20/14
Theresa, we didn't receive a single one of these! I'm terribly sorry if it seemed we were ignoring you; absolutely not our intention, but I do see them now, and am totally happy to chat about what's going on. As I mentioned before, we haven't gotten the Chameleons from the time we decided to wait on them until now, but I do have excellent news; we are supposed to be receiving them in a Tanzanian shipment at the beginning of next week (assuming no unforeseen delays). So we can forward them on to you, as originally planned as soon as they come in (and once we get them settled in post-transport). Hang tight for another few days, and we'll get you all sorted out! Thank you so much for your patience up to this point. I wish that we could have had those guys in 10 times by now, but unfortunately, it's been very difficult getting Tanzania started again after that 2 year export embargo that they had.
Best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
 
The latest from FCR

Here is the latest response from FCR and my reply to them. They are refusing to refund my money, saying that I agreed to wait for the chams to come in and it is too late for a refund. If you have the patience to read it all, great. If not, long story short is that i asked for a refund in April. ANd, note that the email address they said is not monitored was what I used to communicate with Nick Mole and the one he used to respond to me -- until I asked for my money back and then no more responses from that email address.

From: Theresa Blanco [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 2:02 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: FW: K. Tavetana

Andy,

I never agreed to wait “until you had the animals”. I agreed to wait until APRIL 2014 because that’s when you said you would have them. We are well past any reasonable waiting time. When I communicate with you guys about waiting, you get right back to me. When I ask you to be honorable and refund my money after an entire year, then it takes a Board of Inquiry post to get you to respond. Honestly, I expected better from FCR. I can forward you all of the prior emails about waiting until April for the new shipment. I do not want the chams now. I have been asking for a refund for months and months. I have been more than patient. I would like that refund now, please. See the email chains below. I asked for a refund in APRIL and again in JULY and again in August. You offered to refund the money (See your email to me telling me the chams were dead). Now you are telling me it has been too long and therefore you won’t refund it. Does it sound as ridiculous to you now as it does to me?

Please refund via paypal in the next 48 hours. I have given you every opportunity to make good on this. Do the right thing.

Theresa Blanco



From: Theresa Blanco [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:34 AM
To: 'Nick Mole'
Subject: FW: K. Tavetana

Nick,

Please. Can you refund as requested below? Thanks. Theresa

From: Theresa Blanco [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:10 PM
To: 'Nick Mole'
Subject: RE: K. Tavetana

Hi Nick,

Can you refund the $219 I paid in December for the K. Tavetanas, please? Thanks. Theresa Blanco

From: Nick Mole [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 2:22 PM
To: Theresa Blanco
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Theresa,

Yes we have two shipments scheduled for this week actually, Its a good thing you emailed, I will get your order ready to go as soon as we get them and and will send you an extra pair, Thanks again and sorry about that, we havent gotten any in otherwise you would have heard from me by now.


Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
Import/export live reptiles and amphibians
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:51 PM, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andy,

Any more Tanzania coming in anytime soon? Got any Hoehnelii in the pipeline? Let me know. I’m thinking a refund may be the way to go at this point. Thanks. Theresa

From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Theresa,
I have very sad and disappointing news to deliver today. After all of this waiting, we came in this morning only to find both of the females that were supposed to ship for you today had inexplicably died. I'm not sure what happened, but it is incredibly disappointing for us, as I'm sure it will be for you. I know you have been waiting on these, and they were the only ones we received in this shipment from Tanzania. I'm so very sorry to have to tell you this, but unfortunately these things happen from time to time (I'm sure all this crazy weather had something to do with it), and I suppose in some ways it's better that it happened on our watch than after you received them. At least this way you can still recover your funds, though I know that does nothing for the animals lost.

We have three things that we can do from here; one, you can choose to wait until we get another group of these animals in and then we'll send you another four, two, we can offer you a full refund, or three, we can send you the two animals we still have, which look quite good, and then we can either forward you on the other two animals when we receive them, or we can refund you for the remaining two. We will do whatever you'd best prefer, and I'm so very sorry that these options have to be considered at all. It's certainly not what we would consider a normal or ideal scenario.

I hope you can understand, and thank you so much for your patience up to this point.

My condolences, and all our very best as always,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA







on Jan 10, 2014, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Andy,

Finally, the weather is looking better. How about Monday for Tuesday delivery. Please mark it for no signature required – I will be home but fedex doesn’t always ring the bell and then they leave with the package. Please confirm the shipping date. Thanks. Theresa

From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Hey Theresa!
Just wanted to let you know that with this crazy cold spell passing, we should be able to ship for you next week. I'll be in touch, but I just wanted to update you!

All our best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA





on Dec 31, 2014, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Adam,

No issues! I would rather they be nice and warm in sunny Florida than sitting in a Fedex warehouse. I'll email you at the end of this week to make arrangements for shipping next week. Need to check the weather. What is your fedex waypoint and I'll check the weather there too. Thanks! Happy new Year!!

-----Original Message-----
From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: K. Tavetana

Hey Theresa!

We've had some delays and haven't gotten that order out for you yet, I really do apologize about that, but since you're going to have inclement weather, why don't you let me know when would be best and we'll set the date for you and get it on its way for that date. Again, I really do apologize, but we've had a whole load of snags during the holidays and we're trying to work through them as quickly and smoothly as we can! Just know we're here to get you taken care of, so never fear, and thank so much for your patience and understanding!

Hope you have a killer New Year's Eve!

All our best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA





Dec 31, 2013 10:41:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>Hey Andy,
>
>Did you guys ship the chams? I checked on line and it says "order status awaiting shipment". It is extremely cold here. Getting a storm on Thrusday night into Friday for a large amount of snow. I'm thinking that shipping next week is a better option. Can you confirm that you did NOT ship yesterday? Chams aren't here and I don't want them sitting in a truck somewhere. Thanks
>
>I wil coordinate with you for a ship date next week.
>
>Theresa Blanco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 3:02 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: RE: K. Tavetana
>
>Gotcha! No problemo! He let me know that I just missed the fact that you guys had been in touch. We've got you all set, but if you need anything from me, don't hesitate to hit me up! Thanks so much for your order, I just saw that come in! We really appreciate you!
>
>All our best,
>
>-Andy
>Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
>First Choice Reptiles
>www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
>[email protected]
>Palm Bay, FL
>USA
>
>
>
>Dec 23, 2013 02:49:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>Sorry! These are the dwarf fishers. Nick and I traded emails. He said he wouldn't ship until Thursday and I'd like to wait until next week to avoid the massive shipping backlog from the holidays. So, if you guys can hold off and ship on December 30th for arrival on the 31st that would be great.
>>
>>Also, I'd like 3 females (at least one gravid) and 1 male. My message on the order form was confusing.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:42 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: K. Tavetan
>>
>>Hey there!
>>
>>I need to know what we're talking about first. Sorry, but the email didn't provide us any indication of what you were talking about, lol! Just let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>-Andy
>>Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
>>First Choice Reptiles
>>www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
>>[email protected]
>>Palm Bay, FL
>>USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dec 22, 2013 11:09:10 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Hi Nick,
>>
>>Do you have any of these left? I’d like to get a male and three females. Can I still get the 10% discount? Let me know. Thanks. Theresa Blanco
>>
>>
>
>





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:57 PM
To: Theresa Blanco
Subject: RE: FW: K. Tavetana

Theresa, when you spoke with Nick about this order originally, you had decided to wait on the order until we received the animals, which we were more than happy to do. We have not done anything to mislead or confuse you the entire time, and are now able to fill your order as initially agreed. I apologize, but we are well past the period during which we can offer you a refund. We can offer you a full credit if you'd like to order something else, but otherwise, we'd like to fill the order as originally agreed. Please let me know what you'd prefer to do.

Best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA



On 2014-11-23 02:43, Theresa Blanco wrote:
Andy,

I didn't hear back from you on my last email. PLEASE DO NOT SHIP ANY CHAMS. I do not want them now. Please refund my money via paypal ASAP. Thanks. Theresa Blanco

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:19 PM
To: Theresa Blanco
Subject: Re: FW: K. Tavetana

Theresa, we didn't receive a single one of these! I'm terribly sorry if it seemed we were ignoring you; absolutely not our intention, but I do see them now, and am totally happy to chat about what's going on. As I mentioned before, we haven't gotten the Chameleons from the time we decided to wait on them until now, but I do have excellent news; we are supposed to be receiving them in a Tanzanian shipment at the beginning of next week (assuming no unforeseen delays). So we can forward them on to you, as originally planned as soon as they come in (and once we get them settled in post-transport). Hang tight for another few days, and we'll get you all sorted out! Thank you so much for your patience up to this point. I wish that we could have had those guys in 10 times by now, but unfortunately, it's been very difficult getting Tanzania started again after that 2 year export embargo that they had.
Best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA







On 2014-11-19 21:09, Theresa Blanco wrote:


From: Theresa Blanco [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:34 AM
To: 'Nick Mole'
Subject: FW: K. Tavetana

Nick,

Please. Can you refund as requested below? Thanks. Theresa

From: Theresa Blanco [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:10 PM
To: 'Nick Mole'
Subject: RE: K. Tavetana

Hi Nick,

Can you refund the $219 I paid in December for the K. Tavetanas, please? Thanks. Theresa Blanco

From: Nick Mole [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 2:22 PM
To: Theresa Blanco
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Theresa,

Yes we have two shipments scheduled for this week actually, Its a good thing you emailed, I will get your order ready to go as soon as we get them and and will send you an extra pair, Thanks again and sorry about that, we havent gotten any in otherwise you would have heard from me by now.


Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
Import/export live reptiles and amphibians
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:51 PM, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andy,

Any more Tanzania coming in anytime soon? Got any Hoehnelii in the pipeline? Let me know. I'm thinking a refund may be the way to go at this point. Thanks. Theresa

From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Theresa,
I have very sad and disappointing news to deliver today. After all of this waiting, we came in this morning only to find both of the females that were supposed to ship for you today had inexplicably died. I'm not sure what happened, but it is incredibly disappointing for us, as I'm sure it will be for you. I know you have been waiting on these, and they were the only ones we received in this shipment from Tanzania. I'm so very sorry to have to tell you this, but unfortunately these things happen from time to time (I'm sure all this crazy weather had something to do with it), and I suppose in some ways it's better that it happened on our watch than after you received them. At least this way you can still recover your funds, though I know that does nothing for the animals lost.

We have three things that we can do from here; one, you can choose to wait until we get another group of these animals in and then we'll send you another four, two, we can offer you a full refund, or three, we can send you the two animals we still have, which look quite good, and then we can either forward you on the other two animals when we receive them, or we can refund you for the remaining two. We will do whatever you'd best prefer, and I'm so very sorry that these options have to be considered at all. It's certainly not what we would consider a normal or ideal scenario.

I hope you can understand, and thank you so much for your patience up to this point.

My condolences, and all our very best as always,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA







on Jan 10, 2014, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Andy,

Finally, the weather is looking better. How about Monday for Tuesday delivery. Please mark it for no signature required – I will be home but fedex doesn't always ring the bell and then they leave with the package. Please confirm the shipping date. Thanks. Theresa

From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: K. Tavetana

Hey Theresa!
Just wanted to let you know that with this crazy cold spell passing, we should be able to ship for you next week. I'll be in touch, but I just wanted to update you!

All our best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA





on Dec 31, 2014, Theresa Blanco <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Adam,

No issues! I would rather they be nice and warm in sunny Florida than sitting in a Fedex warehouse. I'll email you at the end of this week to make arrangements for shipping next week. Need to check the weather. What is your fedex waypoint and I'll check the weather there too. Thanks! Happy new Year!!

-----Original Message-----
From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: K. Tavetana

Hey Theresa!

We've had some delays and haven't gotten that order out for you yet, I really do apologize about that, but since you're going to have inclement weather, why don't you let me know when would be best and we'll set the date for you and get it on its way for that date. Again, I really do apologize, but we've had a whole load of snags during the holidays and we're trying to work through them as quickly and smoothly as we can! Just know we're here to get you taken care of, so never fear, and thank so much for your patience and understanding!

Hope you have a killer New Year's Eve!

All our best,

-Andy
Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
First Choice Reptiles
www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
[email protected]
Palm Bay, FL
USA





Dec 31, 2013 10:41:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>Hey Andy,
>
>Did you guys ship the chams? I checked on line and it says "order status awaiting shipment". It is extremely cold here. Getting a storm on Thrusday night into Friday for a large amount of snow. I'm thinking that shipping next week is a better option. Can you confirm that you did NOT ship yesterday? Chams aren't here and I don't want them sitting in a truck somewhere. Thanks
>
>I wil coordinate with you for a ship date next week.
>
>Theresa Blanco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 3:02 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: RE: K. Tavetana
>
>Gotcha! No problemo! He let me know that I just missed the fact that you guys had been in touch. We've got you all set, but if you need anything from me, don't hesitate to hit me up! Thanks so much for your order, I just saw that come in! We really appreciate you!
>
>All our best,
>
>-Andy
>Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
>First Choice Reptiles
>www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
>[email protected]
>Palm Bay, FL
>USA
>
>
>
>Dec 23, 2013 02:49:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>Sorry! These are the dwarf fishers. Nick and I traded emails. He said he wouldn't ship until Thursday and I'd like to wait until next week to avoid the massive shipping backlog from the holidays. So, if you guys can hold off and ship on December 30th for arrival on the 31st that would be great.
>>
>>Also, I'd like 3 females (at least one gravid) and 1 male. My message on the order form was confusing.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: First Choice Reptiles [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:42 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: K. Tavetan
>>
>>Hey there!
>>
>>I need to know what we're talking about first. Sorry, but the email didn't provide us any indication of what you were talking about, lol! Just let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>-Andy
>>Sales, Site Manager, Photographer
>>First Choice Reptiles
>>www.FirstChoiceReptiles.com
>>[email protected]
>>Palm Bay, FL
>>USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dec 22, 2013 11:09:10 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Hi Nick,
>>
>>Do you have any of these left? I'd like to get a male and three females. Can I still get the 10% discount? Let me know. Thanks. Theresa Blanco
>>
>>
>
>
 
Wow! Come on FCR....your joking right? First you should thank Theresa for the 11 month interest free loan. Second thing you should do is apologize for wasting her time. Next refund her money tonight! None of the delays are the fault of your customer and she no longer wishes to do business with you. That is some piss poor customer service!
 
Theresa,
There are some very long gaps between emails (even months). Are there missing emails? Did you communicate, with FCR, via phone, or text, during those time gaps in the emails?
 
I had a phone call in between emails with them and was assured that they would ship when the next shipment came in which, according to them, was always imminent. I thought I was being patient, and I wanted the chams. However, my attempt to increase the gene pool in my collection is now moot since the ones I wanted to breed with the new chams have died from old age. Regardless of whether I waited on FCR or not, our communications were clear that I wanted my money back and they have now refused based on nothing more than me giving them the benefit of the doubt. I have documented their behavior and mine in the emails. I really would just like a refund at this point. It seems to me that if FCR wants to do the right thing, they will refund it. If they don't, then they've put one over on me which will never happen again because they've lost a customer.
 
Ya my concern with waiting would be that there could be a charge back limit on the credit card. Have you tried to file a claim through your card's agency? If you can get the money back that way, you won't have to wait and see what they end up doing?
 
He meant a limit on you calling your credit card company and having a chargeback files by you. If it's PayPal you paid him with I'd still give it a whirl. You got nothing left to lose. They will see that he didn't even ship you anything. Explain to them this exact situation. Tell them you purchased a animal and this seller has toyed with you over a year. For the future. If you pay with PayPal. You give the seller 30 days to ship. If they dont file a claim then. Don't ever wait a year again. I give sellers 30 days to ship me my animal if not I file a chargeback. I do not but anything in the winter months, because you can't ship anyway at least to me. Just keeps the 30 day time limit realistic since you can't ship to me in the winter. This way I don't lose out on the ability to file a chargeback. Good luck really sorry this happened to you. Another added to my Do Not Buy List.
 
On 11/30, I got an email from FCR stating that my order status had changed to "refunded". I checked paypal. No credit. I waited a week. As of tonight at midnight, still no credit. It's like pulling teeth.
 
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