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For all the nay sayers!!! Serpentboy78=goodguy

More bad news for Mike Clark.

A former employee and reptile business owner himself has contacted me yesterday, said he heard about this crap going on, and said that against my advice, he is going to post to testify and verify everything I said about Mike Clark as last summer he saw the rotting dead snake and was informed the same day everything happened, including Mike Clark's admission that he sent it dead, and his bribe.

John: Your ship has come in. A material witness is what you wanted, and now your going to get it.

Mike Clark: You have perhaps only a few hours or a day to take back every word you ever said about me and apologize and admit to everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, all the lies and insults, to include that you only paid me for half the snakes value, that you admitted to sending it dead in the first place, and that you offered hognose snakes to keep me quiet. And that lie you just said on the other forum that I was going to grab them out of the back of the store is another lie you must admit to. You must admit that you lied in every word or every sentence you said about me. You better do it now before his posts goes up.

If you apologize after the post is put up, your apology will mean nothing to me or anyone who reads this guys post.

Remember Mike Clark, I gave you an opportunity to make it better. Your going to look worse than you ever did when he verifies all of what I said about you.
 
serpentboy78 said:
Ok I told myself I would just let all this make a fool of it self. So far Im a thief,a criminal mastermind (LOL) um what else a maggot... I could go on and on.. Yet my sells continue to thrive, that is beside the point. I have very obviously made some moronic mistakes here and i will say shipping hots to Mr. Bump was not 1 of them. that is false. I admited the Dan thing. The David beard saga went to sh!t ..I feel that was due to both our parts. Do I feel Like a schmuck after all that has happened YES I do,but what can i do.? I was on my way to making a pretty solid name for myself, I still have well known names buying from me,but that is beside the point. No 1 wants their name Sh!t on like mine is being done. It seems to be all the same rat pack that is doing it, but O WELL.. The damage is done... I have been told sevral times dude dont pay david the damage is done either way it goes.So maybe I took that advice and should not have. Regardless what it boils down to is if you have snakes ppl want and at the right price they are gonna buy them. Im not sayin that to be a smart a$$ just a known fact. I will not be chased out of this hobby/bizz... No matter what it is my passion abd any of you who were to step foot into my snakeroom would know that. There really is not much more I can say. I will say IMO Dan scoloro is lying shmega.... And he has proven that.. I had a fairly decent rep going,and boy what i would give to get that back... but that just is'nt gonna happen... All I can say is for what it is worth im sorry.. & by no means will I be chased away from this hobby,hell my 4 yr old already likes to go herping... This is a hobby/bizz I will continue to take part in for yrs and yrs to come...... You ppl can keep these threads going for as long as you like, but if there is something you'd really like to know drop me an email or a pm.... Im not the monster....maggot... criminal master mind the same ppl are saying I am . I am just some 1 who fuct up and made some bad choices......... My fingers are falling asleep,Imma sip on a cold 1 and breed some snakes... for all the herpers out there nuttin but love from the womb to the tomb.......... Mike Clark...... :confused:
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If i'm slandering your good name Mike Clark then maybe you should take some legal remifications.Because the fact is you not only ripped me off you sent me hots via usps.You have not replyed to any of my post directly,why?
Are you saying that you never did business with me?
did you ship hots via usps?
Did you threaten if i posted on the boi that all your friends would make me look like the bad guy?
"i just make some bad choices" :crying:
"I had a fairly decent rep going,and boy what i would give to get that back" :crying:
"All I can say is for what it is worth im sorry" :crying:
"Im not the monster....maggot... criminal master mind the same ppl are saying I am . I am just some 1 who fuct up and made some bad choices" :crying:
No ones going to feel bad for you mike,im not going to loose any sleep over it.
 
Good Name? WHAT GOOD NAME? LOL

Mike commited one of the cardinal sins in this industry, shipping a potentially deadly snake through a ground carrier. This action is not considered a "mistake" of any kind. It is simply ignorance. There will never be a time in his lifetime from these days forward when people will simply "forget". This information is not going anywhere... No matter how bad he wishes it would.

It's really to bad no one has taken action in contacting the appropriate authorities, this is not something taken too lightly. I'm guessing the receiver did nothing about it as well in fear of also catching heat..... Perhaps someone should forward this information to the appropriate people. This type of person does not deserve to be in this hobby, let alone deserve the right to live IMO. What would have happened if the package was left on a dorrstep by a lazy carrier and then entered the hands of a curious child? I could go on all day with "what if's".... This action is unforgivable.

And Mike, Do NOT email me again. I do not want to hear your unsolicited excuses. You are scum in every aspect of the word. You are a shame on the entire industry and those who continue to stick up for you. I feel deeply for these people, perhaps they should choose better acquantances.
 
Also...

Perhaps ONCE would have been inexcusable.... Doubtfully.

But this has been done MULTIPLE TIMES. I cannot express in words my hatred for this individual. ANYONE associated with this P.O.S. need not contact us for anything, we want nothing to do with him or anyone he associates with. Period. I distance myself and my company from garbage wherever and whenever applicable. This certainly fits all aspects of criteria. I certainly hope you suffer for your ignorance until the day you leave this hobby. And I personally guarantee you will.
 
It's a shame this guy is not worth dealing with because he has a group of Eastern hogs I would love to buy but I cannot bring myself to deal with him no matter how nice the animals appear.
 
Mike Clark is a low life dirt bag pansy a$$.
How dare he say this site is anti American and to boycott the supporters. Guess what pansy, and all your little buddies, if my 5'4" 120 lbs American a$$ ever comes into contact with you I will kindly explain what Anti-American is and show you the error of your ways. How dare you play this Country's national anthem in the background of your pathetic pointless babble of a web page. What pi$$es me off is I fought and others still do to let your stupid little ignorant pansies post what ever you want, whenever you want. You dare to infer this site is Anti American and in turn infer any suppoerters are too? Child, you don't even want to get me started on you poor excuse for a sack of human flesh. You want to fight against anti American things...go enlist in the military...oh that is right...you are too pansy a$$ to do that...
You make me sick...I hope you take down that stupid web page or at least remove the AMERICAN flag, anthem, and any mention of this site and supporters being anti-AMERICAN. You are going to pi$$ alot of people off with just that. Add in you are a lying coniving little cheat....wow what a great American....
Pansy...
Sorry Webslave if you have to warn me or give me points because of this but I don't deal well with people abusing any symbol of this nation for their own misguided purpose....really irks me....
 
Well if pansy boy is there I'll have to be sure to show him the bottom of my combat boots...I still have them. Man this really has me foul tempered...
 
Shannon, don't forget that before you get pissed at a moron to consider the sourse of your irritation.

This is somewhat akin to a puppy who should know better, and actually does, crapping on the floor for attention.

lil' mikey isn't really worth the effort of getting pissed. Besides, would you really feel better flattening a creampuff?

He's just another pissant dimwit. NOT really worth the effort of stomping.
 
Mike Clark admits the Dan thing on this thread, but at the same time he calls me a scumbag on the other thread? Is that any way to speak to your best customer Mike?

Do you really know what that shows about you? How can you come here and pretend to ask for some type of consideration in your mistakes in the past and insult at the same time on another thread? You use other people's words to try a back up your lies? Do you know what that shows about you? It only places further guilt on you. Are you blind? And don't you have the common sense to know that your insults are only interpreted that you are further guilty? Man, get some fresh air and start over. And think about this: We all know that nothing we do or say will hurt your business. We know that there are thousands of people who do not know what a BOI is and will not see these posts and continue to buy from you. There are people selling on kingnsnake.com that make you look like Mother Theresa. Hey, I have close friends that know about how you tried to defamed me and how you screwed me over, but if you have what they want, they will buy it. And be honest with you, if some place messed me over and they had what I wanted, I still would get it. I perhaps would not give them the satisfaction of knowing that I got it.

However, you are young and you were given the consideration of making mistakes and you blew it. After we ended our conversation last summer, and I expected that you would at least straighten up, I did a search of your name, and saw that post about some lady who claimed you shorted her a snake. Regardless of the outcome and even if you did'nt short her a snake, I was angry that I did not report you. I was not angry at you, I was angry at me. And then all these other threads started popping up with these other deals you made that went bad. And then you fly off your rocker and try to defame me about these stupid hognose snake and bring my friend and former employer's name into it for the sake of trying to damage our relationship. Man, wake up. I am not a dealer. You can rant and rave and you can place a thousands things on here that I did wrong in my entire life and it will not mean squat to anyone. Get it? I cannot be legally defamed as I am not a reptile dealer. Do you understand that at least? Bro, the Presidents of our country awarded me four Commendation Medals for my contributions to this country. Who do you think you can defame?

Look man, I am not out to get you. If I said things to scare you to make you ship shape then that is my way of getting you to at the minimum admit you were wrong and learn from it and go on. But I guess your just a little too hard headed to take advice from someone older than you that has seen a thousand like you come and go in the reptile trade. And personally, I thought you would have learned something. In our deal, remember when we discussed how smart you were to fool me, a 40 plus year old guy and that should have known better. I was not just letting down on you to make you concede that you knew the snake was dead, I personally though if you were that swift and smart, then you could use that skill and sales ability to make something good of yourself. Did you not get it, or were you too scared that Stacy Siegel was standing next to me listening to my conversation with you?

Hey, you want to make amends.

OK, you owe Mike Bump the retail value of every snake your shorted him, plus an apology for your insults and lies to the public for everyone you did bad to. Also, you need to pay me the retail value of the snakes you got in trade, which is an additional 160 dollars you owe. Actually, give the money to Mike Bump or your local herp club or add it to David's check as I do not need the money. You can also give the pair of hognose snakes you owe to this last fellow Steve who needs them. And you need to pay David his money also. Plus the guy who complained about that rodent eating coral. If it did not eat rodents like you claimed by now, you need to fix your deal with him. And also stop advertising eastern hognose snakes for 400 dollars a trio as they are worth 50 to 60 bucks a piece. Don't you realize that even if someone pays you that amount, that you are taking unfair advantage of them? Does that not bother you? Man, look here. Your business is connected with caretaking of reptiles. If you treat people like crap, then what are people to think about how you care for the animals under your care?
 
Dan:

Nothing against you personally, but if you were to print out and bind all of your fauna posts, I bet it would rival War and Peace.
 
That was pretty well said Dan. Except for the price he charges part. I figure it's fair game to get what you can AS LONG AS THEY ARE HONESTLY REPRESENTED.

I am glad that you have been......consistent/open/persistant. It has me leaning more towards believing what you've said, which isn't to say that I haven't, totally, but the more I read the better you look.
 
Joe, now that was a good one and deserved.

Hey, I am semi-retired and its too cold to be herping all the time down here in south florida. Hey, I used to be an outdoor writer for "Carolina Adverture Magazine" in the 80's and have some excellect outdoor articles on fishing and the outdoors. War and Peace. Never read it, but one day after I am done writing myself, who knows.
 
wilomn said:
That was pretty well said Dan. Except for the price he charges part. I figure it's fair game to get what you can AS LONG AS THEY ARE HONESTLY REPRESENTED.

I am glad that you have been......consistent/open/persistant. It has me leaning more towards believing what you've said, which isn't to say that I haven't, totally, but the more I read the better you look.
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Wes, isn't that similar to what the women say about you, "The more they drink the better you look"? :crazy03:
 
Gecko_Den said:
Wes, isn't that similar to what the women say about you, "The more they drink the better you look"? :crazy03:
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Oddly enough the converse is also true. The more I drink, the better they look as well.

Ain't alcohol wonderful?
 
wilomn said:
Oddly enough the converse is also true. The more I drink, the better they look as well.

Ain't alcohol wonderful?
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It's great, as long as you get out of there before the alcohol wears off...... :crap:
 
Man I wish I could talk to you guys as you do not know the half of it and some think I am being persistent and hard, but I have been quite kind considering it all.

Not only did I get good screwing on my trade, that was not even half of it. I was totally embarrassed in front of my employer. Do you know what its like to be highly regarded by your employer, and then be screwed by some kid with a dead stinking snake? At the time, the guy was lucky he was in Texas and I was in Florida.

And weeks later, he asked me for the corps back (and I do not know why, so please do not ask), so I mailed it (headless) to the address he said to, then once he knew it was in the mail, he told me it was the wrong address, and it was sent back to me weeks later. I think the guy was out to screw me with the post office?

And as to the return of the snake in the mail. Weeks later, I never knew it was delivered or not, my wife went to get the mail, came back into the house with the stinking envelope about ready to kick my butt down the road. Do you know what a dead snake smells like after 3 weeks in an envelope much less I had to face my postman afterward?

Hey, she can tolerate the snakes, but not that dead stinking ones in her mailbox. She still tells me to get the freking mail for now on.
 
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