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Inquiry Fred kick??? I need some help please!

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So I am totally up in the air with this guy. I am so very tempted to buy some unbeatable priced hets that he has for sale, but I'm getting nothing but mixed signals from this guy, as am also hearing but good and bad.
I'm inquiring mostly on the part of him being trustworthy as he guarantees the genetics of his animals, after beating around the bush and avoiding my question several times, I finally get
" yes guaranteed 100% they were produced at my facility."
Which after the two or three times it took him to answer me threw up a red flag.
I am just looking for some information on him, some good advice from someone who delt with him or jus anybody with any useful information please! I thank you for your help and time for reading:)
 
so stick with your gut and look elsewhere. If red flags were thrown up... then dont try to override them. It's not worth it.
 
Fred Kick has been around for quite some time now.
There should be several people that have bought hets from him in the past that have proven out, one way or the other.
I would try to find those replies later in this thread, and of course consider any other feedback from people that have had previous transactions with him before deciding to purchase from him or not.

You are probably going to get many replies like the second and third post in this thread already, and I would not base my decision on them.
(No offense meant to the two members that posted those replies.)
 
In all honesty, if you can't find a breeder who will take the time to fully address your questions and take the time to provide you with a detailed answer, then I would say look elsewhere.

A good breeder takes the time to address a customer, it also shows character and gives you confidence that the breeder puts forth the effort, knowledge and care needed to properly care for snakes.
 
i own a black pastel female and a spider female from fred kick. both were healthy and eating great right from the start. last time i was in the retail store was about 2 years ago and all looked good except for a few cages that were dirty. i myself would buy hets from him as long as paperwork is provided(with photo). no paperwork no purchase
adam jeffery
 
From what I have learned from here, if they are gonna give you a hard time before you buy, imagine the service after you buy. This might not be the case, but I would kick my self in the butt up and down the road if those flags went off and I bought and got screwed. Some times the extra money is worth the piece of mind.
 
They are on my "Do not buy from list" for various reasons. Do your research, and then buy from one of the good guys out there. Keep the good guys in business! Each dime you send to suspect breeders or sellers, keeps them in business longer. We should want to keep the good guys in business, not the suspect sellers.

Dave
 
David Reid said:
They are on my "Do not buy from list" for various reasons. Do your research, and then buy from one of the good guys out there. Keep the good guys in business! Each dime you send to suspect breeders or sellers, keeps them in business longer. We should want to keep the good guys in business, not the suspect sellers.

Dave
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:iagree: run away as fast as your fingers can type..
 
All I can say is that we see them every month. Some of their animals look incredible others not so much. I got my son a baby boa from them last year at a show. It regurg and had mites. Said something to him at the next show nad he totally blew me off. All I can tell you is that we were doing this way before he was into any ball morphs and really not a heck of a lot has changed. IMO
 
I bough a mojave from him,the customer service was horrible,but the snake is wonderful! It came when he said it would and eats f/t everytime offered.It just takes him forever to answer e-mails if he even responds.I would probably buy a het from him if paperwork were provided.
 
When I search the B.O.I looking for breeders I can trust, I exclude anyone with negative threads, it cuts down my options but I can buy quality animals from quality people.
 
I wouldn't automatically write someone because they have a negative thread here. I've been reading the BOI for quite a few years and about 25% of the time, it was a misunderstanding, the op wasn't complying with the terms of service, or the OP was just trying to cause problems. Things happen, but when a negative post comes out to be positive, it makes me more confident in that seller than a straight up positive post would.

In this case, there are enough people saying that they have had either customer service or health issues with their purchases with no defense from the seller to make me not want to purchase anything from them.

Chris
 
Any seller who sends mites, whether or not it was on purpose or not, is off my list. Mites are not ok to send. It is a slap in the face to the buyer.

Dave
 
Good dealers with bad threads.

brock lesser said:
When I search the B.O.I looking for breeders I can trust, I exclude anyone with negative threads, it cuts down my options but I can buy quality animals from quality people.
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I can understand a not buying from a dealer that has a negative thread that proves out to be a negative.

Just recently a dealer/breeder that enjoys a very good reputation had a negative thread posted over a shipping mixup which ultimately the dealer made good and the OP ended up looking like the bad guy. It's a dealer I've often considered getting stock from and still would as this negative thread just proved they are really good guys.

The OP of that thread though I wouldn't sell a rubber snake too.
 
RJK890 said:
Fred Kick has been around for quite some time now.
There should be several people that have bought hets from him in the past that have proven out, one way or the other.
I would try to find those replies later in this thread, and of course consider any other feedback from people that have had previous transactions with him before deciding to purchase from him or not.

You are probably going to get many replies like the second and third post in this thread already, and I would not base my decision on them.
(No offense meant to the two members that posted those replies.)
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No offense taken..... but I have found that if I follow my gut feelings.... I never get shafted due to second guessing the situation. If red flags are raised... then something is amis. Normally those are attributed to dishonesty or something just not adding up.

Why would you really want to take the chance.
 
No offense taken..... but I have found that if I follow my gut feelings.... I never get shafted due to second guessing the situation. If red flags are raised... then something is amis. Normally those are attributed to dishonesty or something just not adding up.

Why would you really want to take the chance.
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I would not take the chance myself.
There are very few people that I would purchase hets from, ever.
(In fact, I can count them on one hand and have fingers left over.)

When dealing with anybody that I do not know personally, or have never done business with, I am always skeptical.
Even then, with hets it's two or three years of not being sure in most cases.

Everyone can have a warm fuzzy feeling about a seller, and have no red flags raised for years.
And then... Look at the TSE scam, and the current problem with hets from an industry leader not proving out.

At the same time, a seller may not be well known, or even liked by most of the online community(ies) for any given reason. Leaving the majority of post's in a thread like this to read something like, "run away," or "follow your gut feeling," which may, or may not be great advice.

I would just rather base my decision to make a purchase or not, on facts and actual customer feedback, then on the majority vote or gut feelings (mine or yours.)

Obviously there is now some negative feedback posted about the seller inquired about in this thread, from previous customers who received animals with mites, and other health problems, with no or bad customer service to go with it.

Does that mean that he sells false hets ??? Not necessarily.
Maybe he is an honest guy with poor TOS, and customer service, but good prices ???
You may be just as safe purchasing hets from him as you are purchasing visual morphs.

Would I, No.
Should you, ? IDK ?
 
RidgeTop Reptiles said:
No offense taken..... but I have found that if I follow my gut feelings.... I never get shafted due to second guessing the situation. If red flags are raised... then something is amis. Normally those are attributed to dishonesty or something just not adding up.

Why would you really want to take the chance.
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chongorojo said:
Trust your gut! leave the gambling in vegas and go with a known good guy!
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AMEN!!! I might miss out some deals now and then, but this logic has yet to let me get burned in any deals gone bad!
 
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