• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Fred Kick Misrepresented Animals, A thief to watch out for

Oh - I forgot to include
Ed Clark said:
Sorry Howard, I could have helped you on this.
Click to expand...
Ed, if you were both inclined, and able, to help Howard, don't let others' comments stop you. Take it to PM & do your thing
 
cash no longer mattered i had them sold here locally and could have had the money the next day

one quick answer to this. he no longer wanted the cash because he had been calling around during our 15 minute interlude to sell the snakes that i had not agreed to trade him for that price

it was the mojaves or pound sand
 
It sounds like, though, you could have made a choice between the mojaves, or walking away with one snake and no debt.
That of course does not excuse the seller from allegedly sending different snakes than the agreement called for.
 
lucille

there was no longer the option of the one snake that was payed for, or keeping the money/ mojaves. it would have been a total loss
i am sorry that i cannot get accross how rude this person was, and yes i was late by approx 1-1.5 month after the terms.
i understand wanting the money. i do not deny that at all, infact i was the proative one in maintaining contact. that was the purpose for me trying to fix the deal primarily to walk with the one snake. all options flew out the window when he decided it was the mojaves or nothing. not to mention the veiled threats.

besides all of this i still got animals i would have never purchased/ traded in the firstplace not only because of there weight but also the looks of the animals
had the animals been as described and pictured (and especially the weight sated) i would have just ate the loss complaint free
now the loss is far past the 2000 dollar price tag, even at a 1 a gram (pastel female pricing) there is a 500$ difference in value, and frankly i would not dare sell these to someone else
 
Howard

Have you sent the seller a link to this thread? I would really like to hear from him about the discrepancy in how the snakes were pictured and the snakes you received.
 
This is strange. But I will tell you the deals I have had with John Kick.

John Kick is a stand up guy IMO. I see him a few times a month at shows. And here is what he did for me.

I bought a pair of 350 gram 100% het carmel albinos from him. I picked them up at a hamburg show. I went home thinking nothing of it. Well I started probing all my snakes Have not sexed and I did the het carmels. They were both males. I called up John and he said no worries he must have mixed them up. and he would see me at the next Cleveland Show. So no worries. I set up at the show and John comes over and hands me a 600 gram plus female. he says there you go buddy. No questions asked. I bought is last 350 grammers. But this female is nice.

I will say I have never dealt with Fred. i have never even talked to him. But john is a cool. I am very picky about snakes that enter my collection. as some know.

I do not want to get in the middle of this. But I can mention something to John when I see him if they do not know about it(this thread) before that.
 
the bad thing is i did a search. i can not believe i missed that, we live and learn.
anyoe want a "nice" female pastel? just making a little fun of myself

and just for future references i do have about a dozen in the "kick" to "kick plus" sizes, so dont assume your getting his stuff if i decide to part with any
howard
man i feel like a moron for not seeing that thread
 
I purchased a male leopard gecko from ReptileAddicts early this year at one of the Hamburg shows. It was an extremely beautiful animal for a very low price. I thought it was a "too good to be true" situation, but my girlfriend really wanted to buy him.

8 months later, the poor guy is still only 9 grams. He has been vet-treated and still only eats from a feeding syringe.

We called the phone number listed on reptileaddicts.com (when it was still a functional website) and were told by a guy who didn't want to give his name to "uh, just give the gecko some baby food."

It was the first and last time I do business with these guys and have recommended to other herpers on my own forum to steer clear as well.
 
Howard

If you emailed him and sent him a link to this thread hopefully he will read it, and I presume he will be aware that many others will read it also.
What would it take on his part, to make you feel good about this deal?
 
Seth, did you by chance get an acid fast test done for your little gecko? The BOI thread linked in this thread states that he sold a crypto infected snake. I would be concerned about your little guy having the same highly infectious, incurable parasite.
 
wow, i am just blown away that i missed those threads. not sure how i could have. what blows me away are the amount of people who speak so kindly about these guys back in 2006.

well let me tell you from first hand experience their customer service is terrible unless they know they can deduct a payment from your debit card. and there so called high end ball python collection is not looking to good from where i stand.

lucille, you asked me a ? what i would feel would make it right. i just do not know. if the animals were good animals and just short of weight. i would still be pissed because of the completely different size range of the animals. and most of all the fact that there is know chance in hell they will breed this season (which was a big part of their selling stratagy). basically if they had been healthy and as good looking as they were shown to me and still had a combined weight of 1500 grams they would have been worth about 1200 or perhaps a little more. the price jump would have come into effect had they had an honest shot of breeding this season.
good luck to all
pure scumbags in my book: i tried calling many times after they shipped them fred would not answer nor return any of my voicemails. i got someone in there shop one day and he said he had no authority to talk about the deal.

after all of this i think i am going to go back to kingsnake and file a fraudulent seller complaint and see where it goes from there. he might be a wholesaler, but i bet he needs kingsnake to sell those high end balls
 
The BOI thread linked in this thread states that he sold a crypto infected snake.
jesus, now i am going to have to get them tested. they have not gurged, but how could they they do not eat. i hope others have learned from my mistake here
 
How about people hearing my side of the story.
We held the 2 snakes for him for over 5 months. After numerous stories he offered me his 4 mojaves as payment for the final $800 balance plus shipping.
I would rather of had the money but I graciously adopted Mr. Ross' deal to end our 5 month stailmate. He originally told me he would pay off the balance within 30 days. 150 days later I accepted his noneating new born mojaves of which 2 never ate and passed (so under weight when I received them, the 2 were less than 45 grams)

If I was being a prick I would have kept Mr. Ross' deposit, but I continually called him and tried to finish our deal.

As far as the 2 pastel females not eating.
They were doing great- unlike the newborns of which his 2 never ate. If he has questions on how to feed his newly acquired pastel ball pythons he could have asked and we could have told him how they got up to their size about 1000 grams as quickly as they did. As far as pastel balls loosing color over time, is an unfortunate fact in over 5 months, they usually start to loose some of the vibrant baby colors and dull out.

So howard you can call me and I can "unlock" the feeding dilema and tell you how to feed subadult ball pythons.

Oh and for the record...I just read all of the threads posted about me and I came across one that struck me as kind of funny. I just set up an account with this website TODAY so how would I have ben able to threaten you since you can't post on here unless you have an account.


Fred Kick
 
Back
Top