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Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

Frogman11 said:
So your saying that because Mike didn't have the exporters contact info makes this a scam?

Garrett Smith
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Then we have another problem.

If you did not give him the paperwork or contact. Then he is a customer. And he has asked for a refund.

It is a scam if you take a customers money, don't produce in a reasonable amount of time, and refuse to give a refund.

I get it, he is not a good person. But honestly, two wrongs don't make a right. You just admitted that he was not a partner in this deal, if he was, he would have everything you have. So you need to admit too the refund because he is a customer.

He and a lot of people have gotten carried away in this thread. Yourself included. I believe you are not a bad person, you just tired of getting kicked around when you don't have any options. I understand you don't have this money. I understand you don't have anything near that value.

Here is what I would do, if I was in your place.

I would say I was sorry for my behaviour. I would tell Mr. Rodriguez that he will get his money back as soon as you have. I would contact him directly, set up payment plans and if that does not work, keep the lines of commutations open. I would suck it up, do the right thing, even if it completely sucks for me.

I would completely stop taunting, attacking, and even communicating with everyone but Mr. Rodriguez. You can post what you want to do and how you think this can be resolved. But Mr. Kennard and the others are just kicking you when you are down. Stop being their punching bag. Stop.

You are in a bad spot. I get it. Now we have seen how bad this thread has gotten and exactly how deep the hole is, let us stop digging. Let us start making a plan that treats everyone fairly and fixes the problem.

Unfortunately, and painfully, you need to take that first step.
 
CwnAnnwn said:
Then we have another problem.

If you did not give him the paperwork or contact. Then he is a customer. And he has asked for a refund.

It is a scam if you take a customers money, don't produce in a reasonable amount of time, and refuse to give a refund.

I get it, he is not a good person. But honestly, two wrongs don't make a right. You just admitted that he was not a partner in this deal, if he was, he would have everything you have. So you need to admit too the refund because he is a customer.

He and a lot of people have gotten carried away in this thread. Yourself included. I believe you are not a bad person, you just tired of getting kicked around when you don't have any options. I understand you don't have this money. I understand you don't have anything near that value.

Here is what I would do, if I was in your place.

I would say I was sorry for my behaviour. I would tell Mr. Rodriguez that he will get his money back as soon as you have. I would contact him directly, set up payment plans and if that does not work, keep the lines of commutations open. I would suck it up, do the right thing, even if it completely sucks for me.

I would completely stop taunting, attacking, and even communicating with everyone but Mr. Rodriguez. You can post what you want to do and how you think this can be resolved. But Mr. Kennard and the others are just kicking you when you are down. Stop being their punching bag. Stop.

You are in a bad spot. I get it. Now we have seen how bad this thread has gotten and exactly how deep the hole is, let us stop digging. Let us start making a plan that treats everyone fairly and fixes the problem.

Unfortunately, and painfully, you need to take that first step.
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I have take the first step before he started this BOI on me, with the conversation with Mikes mother. Mike and I have been communicating the entire time. From when this deal started, when he threatened to start a BOI on me and through out this BOI. He will hassle me until I get pissed and them post only my mad comments on this BOI. We worked out a deal where he will get more than his original investment a few weeks ago. I was waiting to see if he would post this information when the deal was agreed to….He didn't. I was not going to say anything. This is the type of guy that he is. If he was a customer then I would be making money on his animals. He has received all the paperwork to date. All the Cites and shipping paperwork comes in the end with the shipment. Mike knows this as we have done this before and he has all the paperwork from the first shipment.

I was good with not posting at all past my first comment of the actual transaction. The only part that made me mad was when they were attacking Markus. They filled up on his blood and left him alone. Markus is a great guy and didn't deserve what was said about him. Again Chris was quick to judge and lashed out with his forked tongue. I was more surprised that this site allows all the attacking and name calling. Nick came in and slowed it down for a bit….

I don't feel like a punching bag never have on this one. I have asked the last 4 customers if they read the Fauana BOI on me and they all said "No, I don't read that #@%!" I offered free shipping on this BOI if they mentioned the BOI when asking about an animal. I did get one guy thats going to use it on animals coming in within the next few weeks.



 
Frogman11 said:
I offered free shipping on this BOI if they mentioned the BOI when asking about an animal.
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I can't say for certain without seeing the post, and I'm not inclined to look for it; but that sure sounds like inappropriate advertising.
 
venomfool#1 said:
Why've the moderators let this go?
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Instead of stirring the pot why don't YOU go find any offending post and present/flag it?
The moderators work here for free, using their own personal time. It is neither expected nor required for them to research such a claim, especially from someone like Garrett.
He is exulting in his mind games here that are having people answer him, he is an attention ho to the nth degree.
 
schaumda said:
for the telefonnumber. Just go back this threat and see the documents Garrett provided. Actually it will take you like 20 seconds to find the telefonnumber on google....
This is not a secret.

Regards, Markus
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Actually, this is not so.
Finding a phone number, for Abdul Raheed Summar, or for Abdur Rasheed Sumar, or for whatever he calls himself, is not a simple thing.
Also, which company is to be called? MAB Trading & Logistics, or Ocean World Logistics, or other? If calling the company (if a number is found) would one just request to speak to Abdul, Abdur, or whoever he is?

Hope this deal, that Garrett made, works out but, honestly, I will be surprised if Garrett receives any animals from this person in Pakistan. Guess all that can be done is to wait and see.

Garrett, if you have more paperwork, it boggles the mind as to why you won't post it or, at the least end, send it to Mike.

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Frogman11 said:
I have take the first step before he started this BOI on me, with the conversation with Mikes mother. Mike and I have been communicating the entire time. From when this deal started, when he threatened to start a BOI on me and through out this BOI. He will hassle me until I get pissed and them post only my mad comments on this BOI. We worked out a deal where he will get more than his original investment a few weeks ago. I was waiting to see if he would post this information when the deal was agreed to….He didn't. I was not going to say anything. This is the type of guy that he is. If he was a customer then I would be making money on his animals. He has received all the paperwork to date. All the Cites and shipping paperwork comes in the end with the shipment. Mike knows this as we have done this before and he has all the paperwork from the first shipment.

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If he has all the paperwork, then why not just post it on this thread, be done with it?

You did post this.

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And you know and I know that document is as crooked as a dogs hind leg.

The webpage is parked. It was registered too a person in washington state. Name withheld. Official papers would have the official webpage on them. www.KcCi.com.pk but nope. Fake website.


https://who.is/whois/https://www.karachichamber.com


The phone numbers are not connected to Karachi chamber. They are very close, a few digits off, but not correct.

The address for your shipper, is way off. Techno office is on grant street NOT i,i chundrighar road. Once again, a few blocks off.

Then there is the suit number. Guess what, does not exist. All suits in the building are labelled with numbers and letters. Like gw-30.

Mab trading and logistics turns up nothing.

You start to see the problem?

The official paper work has a fake website, phone numbers that are not connected to anything official.

Your trader address does not turn up. The company does not seem to exist. Your zoo permit no looks off.

The list is endless.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but nothing checks out.
 
The info entered on that document is crooked, something doesn't look right to me. I want to know if this document actually exists, I bet garrett won't ever prove that it does. I'd love to see a pic of him holding it up right next to his face. I don't believe any of the documents he claims to have actually exist.
 
CwnAnnwn said:
If he has all the paperwork, then why not just post it on this thread, be done with it?

You did post this.

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And you know and I know that document is as crooked as a dogs hind leg.

The webpage is parked. It was registered too a person in washington state. Name withheld. Official papers would have the official webpage on them. www.KcCi.com.pk but nope. Fake website.


https://who.is/whois/https://www.karachichamber.com


The phone numbers are not connected to Karachi chamber. They are very close, a few digits off, but not correct.

The address for your shipper, is way off. Techno office is on grant street NOT i,i chundrighar road. Once again, a few blocks off.

Then there is the suit number. Guess what, does not exist. All suits in the building are labelled with numbers and letters. Like gw-30.

Mab trading and logistics turns up nothing.

You start to see the problem?

The official paper work has a fake website, phone numbers that are not connected to anything official.

Your trader address does not turn up. The company does not seem to exist. Your zoo permit no looks off.

The list is endless.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but nothing checks out.
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Frogman, What do you say? Come on, what are you waiting for, "I see you lurking around, and don't make up one of your scenarios. Be careful how you answer this." (Sound familiar)

Frogman's thinking," :willy_nil Oh no, Quick, think, :willy_nil what do I say, what do I do, do I ignore it, I know, I'll tell them, I've been duped, or maybe, I'll stick with, importing takes 10 months plus, or ???"

Come on frogman, get it together, what do you say??

I have an idea, why not just STAND UP and tell us what we all, already know, I've been a BAD, BAD, Boy, and a terrible scammer, and I'm now wanting to straighten everything out, and make everyone whole, and be forgiven!

"I see you frogman, lurking on this post. This should be a slam dunk for an excuse making pro like you….. Why don't you answer the question?" (Sound familiar)

We're waiting.......

This window is, Mmmm, Mmmm, GOOD!

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 
CwnAnnwn said:
If he has all the paperwork, then why not just post it on this thread, be done with it?

You did post this.

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And you know and I know that document is as crooked as a dogs hind leg.

The webpage is parked. It was registered too a person in washington state. Name withheld. Official papers would have the official webpage on them. www.KcCi.com.pk but nope. Fake website.


https://who.is/whois/https://www.karachichamber.com


The phone numbers are not connected to Karachi chamber. They are very close, a few digits off, but not correct.

The address for your shipper, is way off. Techno office is on grant street NOT i,i chundrighar road. Once again, a few blocks off.

Then there is the suit number. Guess what, does not exist. All suits in the building are labelled with numbers and letters. Like gw-30.

Mab trading and logistics turns up nothing.

You start to see the problem?

The official paper work has a fake website, phone numbers that are not connected to anything official.

Your trader address does not turn up. The company does not seem to exist. Your zoo permit no looks off.

The list is endless.

Feel free to prove me wrong, but nothing checks out.
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Post #59. He didn't have an answer then to that or any other questions I posed. Now he is demanding answers from me and disregarding all the great questions you people are posing. Garrett proved his scamming capabilities long before this thread with regard to his illegal tortoise transactions.
 
Ms. Peterson,

I called out the others, I will have to call out you.

I understand you are upset. But I am asking you, for the sake of the argument, please refrain from taunting? I know you are just giving him what you think he deserves. I know that he has said some horrible things to you. I think it would be better for all of us if we could keep the conversation civil. Insults and taunt proves you don't have a point. Reducing yourself to their level is not going to fix the problems we face.

There is a very good chance that Mr Smith was scammed in this. But first we have to address the facts. Taunting will not help us with that and it makes you look bad.
 
Thanks Dan.
Was reviewing that document, plus looking into some other things, last night.
Found some things, that were "off", and discussed it (among other Pakistan issues relating to this type of deal, this "Abdul" person, etc.) with another person. Both of us believed there was/is something "hinky" going on.
You seem to have confirmed that my skepticism was/is well placed.

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CwnAnnwn said:
Ms. Peterson,

I called out the others, I will have to call out you.

I understand you are upset. But I am asking you, for the sake of the argument, please refrain from taunting? I know you are just giving him what you think he deserves. I know that he has said some horrible things to you. I think it would be better for all of us if we could keep the conversation civil. Insults and taunt proves you don't have a point. Reducing yourself to their level is not going to fix the problems we face.

There is a very good chance that Mr Smith was scammed in this. But first we have to address the facts. Taunting will not help us with that and it makes you look bad.
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"We" face no problems. Mike does. And your heading could be deemed quite the insult while I'm sure it was a mistake. Lynn's post was spot on. He simply did the exact same thing to Garrett as he was trying to do to me yesterday. That's called poetic justice. What's good for the goose...
 
And for what it's Dan, don't mistake my last post as trying to undermine what you're doing. We all don't have the same methods. That being said, keep up the great job. And thanks for your contributions.
 
CwnAnnwn said:
Mab trading and logistics turns up nothing.
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Forgot to mention, the only thing I found, re. MAB Trading & Logistics, was a guy on LinkedIn. He had both MAB Trading & Logistics and Ocean World Logistics (among others) listed.
His alleged name is Abdur Rasheed Sumar.

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CwnAnnwn said:
Ms. Peterson,

I called out the others, I will have to call out you.

I understand you are upset. But I am asking you, for the sake of the argument, please refrain from taunting? I know you are just giving him what you think he deserves. I know that he has said some horrible things to you. I think it would be better for all of us if we could keep the conversation civil. Insults and taunt proves you don't have a point. Reducing yourself to their level is not going to fix the problems we face.

There is a very good chance that Mr Smith was scammed in this. But first we have to address the facts. Taunting will not help us with that and it makes you look bad.
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That's Mr. Lynn Peterson.

I appreciate your comments/opinion, and that's exactly what it is "your opinion".

Have a GREAT Day!

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles
 
Big Time Reptiles said:
That's Mr. Lynn Peterson.

I appreciate your comments/opinion, and that's exactly what it is "your opinion".

Have a GREAT Day!

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles
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I am sorry about the gender issue. I did not know.

And yes, it is opinions. We have tried yell, taunting, and insulting. Since we went down that road a few times, I thought we could change it up.

It is easy to play the victim when you get the type of comments you and others have been directing at Mr. Smith.

I would like to get to the bottom of this. I think clam and rational conversation is the way.

I am not asking you not participate in the dialogue. Just refrain from getting Mr Smith in a position that he feels he has to defend himself, instead of explain himself.

I might know a few people in Pakistan that can help get to the bottom of this. But with out a reference number, it is impossible. And the reference number on the page was edited out or never existed.
 
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