Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

[Chris Kennard]

Jay,

Thank you for the laughs. Your comments are the funniest ones posted on this BOI to date. In reality you are on of the most delusional, narcissistic people that I have came across. You contradict and lie/make stuff up in almost everyone of your post. See, you started posting on this site to do what you do every time you post. You turn everything in to "THE JAY SOMMERS SHOW" "I know more, Ive done more, Ive been doing this longer etc" and then say. QUOTE:"I like to keep a very low profile keep to myself."QUOTE No you don't you love to say ""I know more, I've done more, I've been doing this longer etc"
When in REALITY you can't truly know these answers without knowing what the other person has accomplished. You just assume.

You started posting on this one saying "Im getting ready to blow this one up" Like you were trying to pull a rope-a-dope one me. Thats laughable. I have seen your MANY fights with people on the internet. For someone that wants to lay low that shouldn't be your MO.

Your greatest accomplishment that you posted is "Jays version":

QUOTE:Here's a good example for you Garrett. Gonatodes daudeni. Are you aware that I am the person that was contacted by the discoverer of that species and the non profit he reached out to. To inquire about what species it was? That's right. Me. When the missionary found that gecko on union I was the first person contacted. I informed them it was an undescribed species. I know the two Scientist that went to union and subsequently formally described the species as G. Daudeni. Also I obtained living specimens shortly there after. So over ten years ago I started keeping daudeni ,a gecko you think you think is super ultra rare. The animals you work with and think are cutting edge I think are yesterday's leftovers. That's just one of sooo many. See I am busy working on my animals not self promoting.

When in reality:In May 2005, the Rev. Mark de Silva, an amateur naturalist on the island, contacted Henderson and Powell about this possible new species of spotted lizard. Viewing de Silva's photographs, the scientists knew immediately the lizard hadn't been previously identified. In certain parts of the world, this type of discovery is not uncommon.

"Descriptions of new species happen every year," Henderson said. "But it happens much less often on smaller islands of the Lesser Antilles."

Much of the behavior and many characteristics of the lizard remain unknown. Henderson and Powell will travel back to Union Island in June for further research. Accompanied by undergraduate students, they will search for females of the species. So far, only male lizards have been collected.

"It's about getting down on your hands and knees and getting dirty," Henderson said about searching for the quick little lizards. "You're digging through leaf litter and it's hard to get your hands on them. You need a little bit of luck."

While luck plays a factor in finding the lizards, taking care not to harm the lizards while searching is also important. Being so small and delicate, Powell said the lizards are easily injured. The tropical environment also presents other dangers for the scientists to keep in mind.

"Scorpions and centipedes that occur in the same habitats [as the lizards] could deliver unpleasant stings and bites, even if they're not life-threatening," Powell said.

While two of the specimens collected in May and June remain at the Milwaukee Public Museum, one is being temporarily studied at the University of Texas-Arlington. Tissues will be taken for DNA testing to verify the lizard's genus and trace its closest relatives.

See, in reality they called Henderson and Powell NOT Jay. The full article can be found :http://www.mpm.edu/research-collections/vertebrate-zoology/new-species-west-indies

This is just one of Jays delusional accomplishments. From your statement of knowing everything and doing things longer as you state. You must have some sort of psychic power. I find this amazing. Can we test this with a few questions? You must know the answers because you've stated that you keep more, done more and have been doing thing longer than I.

1. What animals do I currently have now?
2. What animals have a bred?
3. How long have I been keeping reptiles?
4. How many fingers am I holding up?

With your powers these 4 questions should be super easy. I eagerly await your answers.

For anyone that has seen Jays many battles they are all the same. In the end he usually ends up threading the person in physical violence.

The reasons that you have never heard of me Jay, are.
1. Unlike you, I TRULY say low key and actually enjoy my animals. For example, on 10/1/15 I hatched a very rare gecko. I can't find any info of anyone that has hatched this gecko in captivity. I MIGHT be the only one in the US to do this. I doubt it. Can you use your powers to look in everyones house, business etc to see it this is true? Anyway, the people that know about this are my wife and 3 kids. Thats the difference between you and I Jay. FACT!

2. I have never had interest in Axolotls or anything else that you've had

You state you came on here to straighten me out on time line and price.

Timeline: Yes, I misspoke on my time line. I said reptiles have not been exported out of Pakistan for 10 to 15 years. I was referring to the animals that we are talking about on this BOI S Hardwickii and thanks to Markus it looks like it was around 17.

Price: You came on here to flex your knowledge about price of an animal, from a country that you have never exported from. Stating that your guesstimate comes from price lists from other countries? LOL Thanks for your insight but your not even close.

If anyone wants to meet Jay in person he will be at reptile shows in the southern California area with an empty booth, a sign over his booth that says "I'M JAY SOMMERS, COME CHECK ME OUT" Signing autographs.

Ok Jay, Did you get the attention that your looking for? Is the Jay Sommers show over? Because I have a person that backed out of a deal that I'm trying to find some sort of resolution for that I can afford at this time.

Garrett

Howsabout answering the questions here? Too incriminating for ya'? This thread isn't anout Jay. You just said a whole lot of nothing. You're simple trying to distract from the bullets you're trying to dodge.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Yes j own a commercial Axolotl breeding business it is completely deprecate from the rest of
My collection its a revenue generator haha. It's not even in California where I live haha.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

See the issue here is such. I know everything about daudeni I can speak from personal experience I can also corroborate it as I still have all the emails. And the hobby knew about these animals before bob Powell. I know Bob Powell. I am from Kansas city he is a teacher at Avila college. Anyway what's the point haha it doesn't change anything. You say empty table And I'm a delusional fraud haha. You have not landed a pakistan import yet stop acting like you have.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Yes j own a commercial Axolotl breeding business it is completely deprecate from the rest of
My collection its a revenue generator haha. It's not even in California where I live haha.

Completely separate

 

[Pasodama]

Garrett, that does nothing to disprove Jay.
Jay stated that he was the first person contacted, by the entity who discovered (found) the gecko, to identify it or to see if it has already been discovered/described/identified.
Jay also stated he knows the two scientists who went to Union to collect, and formally describe, the newly found gecko.
Jay did Not say he went to Union nor did he say that he formally described/named the gecko.
Prove that he was not the first person contacted, by the discoverer of the gecko, and, then, you may have something.
Nice try though.

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[Pasodama]

Howsabout answering the questions here?

That would be a nice change.

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[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

I'm so narcissistic that the majority of the hobby has no idea who I am. i hate attention. I don't have a sign on my booths ever and if my best friend didn't own the reptile super show I wouldn't even go to it.
Are you aware that I had daudeni at my booth in Chicago in 2005??? I can have some people verify that. Anyway it doesn't really matter.
I am glad you have a HUGE reputation in this hobby now. If you think your reputation is greater than mine and more people know your name than congrats enjoy the attention. I like to focus on quality of my reputation not quantity like you. You spent all night researching a species I know a lot about and don't need to research so you could attack me and try to discredit me. You are wasting your time. You can't. I mean your so top of your game that you don't know me and I live in California and your own partner in Europe praises my reputation internationally. So land pakistan or do whatever it takes to fix your problem I think your energy and focus should be there not in me.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

The actual truth is that de silva contacted a non profit group that was compiling a data base of species. They contacted me.
I said its undescribed. Also I needed a better pic because I needed to see the toes to
Say if it was Sphaerodactylus or not but I knew it was a sphaerodactyline gecko.and the rest was history.
Also it was 2006 that I had them in Chicago. I was off on my dates I had to recheck. It was 2006 I was a speaker at the New Caledonian gecko symposium and I took them to show a few gecko nerds.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Garret I actually didn't start in on this thread to fight with you.
It was to clarify a date on pakistan. You claim I am an egomaniacal narcissist. But I only act the way you accuse me of acting when my credibility is attacked. I just a simple
Midwestern reptile collector. Nobody has come on here to defend or support your claims. A few have in my behalf but you just dismiss them like it never happened. But the truth here is my credibility and reputation aren't in question here.
Yours is. So you can attack me all you want but it's not an effective defense for your wrongs. I suggest to you that you focus on making your issue find some resolution. Instead of frantically stalking my Facebook and researching dirt to dig up on other people. I'm sorry your so insecure that you have to react the way you do. Go accomplish something substantial so you can have some self worth. And you have to actually land pakistan before you can claim you landed Pakistan.

 

[Big Time Reptiles]

See the issue here is such. I know everything about daudeni I can speak from personal experience I can also corroborate it as I still have all the emails. And the hobby knew about these animals before bob Powell. I know Bob Powell. I am from Kansas city he is a teacher at Avila college. Anyway what's the point haha it doesn't change anything. You say empty table And I'm a delusional fraud haha. You have not landed a pakistan import yet stop acting like you have.

Jay,
Most that have been in this industry for any length of time, know your accomplishments, (my hats off to you) you don't need to waste your time answering is unfounded, uninformed, bogus statements and questions...

As I told you before, Princess won't answer any of the questions asked of him, in stead of answering the questions asked of him, he asks questions of others, that are totally bogus, and or made up BS, thinking that will make him look better than thou. Hasn't accomplished it!

Bottom line this BOI thread is about Garrett Smith user name frogman11, aka Princess, and the money he received 10 to 12 months ago from 3 different people, for animals they NEVER received, and he COULDN'T get.

Let's not forget & go astray from the issue at hand, Princess OWES several GOOD people a large sum of money, in access of $20,000.00, and here he is still skating along, and now he's thinking "I've got it, I've seen enough court T.V. I'll stick to my story, they're all my partners, I'll tell them I was ripped off by the Pakistani, so legally we all loose".

Princess, I know I sound like a broken record, but again, when are YOU going to PAY those you OWE?

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 

[Big Time Reptiles]

For anyone that has seen Jays many battles they are all the same. In the end he usually ends up threading the person in physical violence.

Jay,
You have yet another accomplishment you've kept secret.

I didn't know you could sew...........

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 

[Chris Kennard]

Jay,
You have yet another accomplishment you've kept secret.

I didn't know you could sew...........

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

He is one multi talented fella'.

 

[Chris Kennard]

Garrett, most scammers who hate me go out of their way to prove me wrong with either answers laced with proof of testimony from legitimate supporters. You won't answer legitimate questions in an attempt to put inquirers in their place for no other reason than the absence of a truthful answer that won't make you appear to be the scammer/flipper/fibber you are. I have posed some good questions that could either make me look bad and you look good, or vice versa. Guess that explains you silence.

 

[Big Time Reptiles]

Let's not forget & go astray from the issue at hand, Princess OWES several GOOD people a large sum of money, in access of $20,000.00, and here he is still skating along, and now he's thinking "I've got it, I've seen enough court T.V. I'll stick to my story, they're all my partners, I'll tell them I was ripped off by the Pakistani, so legally we all loose".

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

A typist I'm not, and sometimes not much of a speller either.

What I meant to type was "in excess of $20,000.00", He didn't need access, he already had their $20,000.00 plus for the last 10 to 12 months.

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 

[Chris Kennard]

So again Garrett, is it your contention that if the Pakastani (friend of a friend) screws you out of your money, that anyone who gave YOU their money will have to seek a refund from your Pakastani contact on their own? And why would you not want the Pakistani to post here and put us all in our place?

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Yes I am a master seamstress. I like Garett's referencing me now. So it seems he's been a bit coy and actually knows me after all! And all this time you said you didn't know who
I was.
Garrett is a very insecure man.

 

[Chris Kennard]

Also, who is your friend who is the friend of your Pakistani contact and why hasn't he/she posted here on your behalf, along with so many satisfied customers and bigwigs in this community?

 

[Chris Kennard]

Yes I am a master seamstress. I like Garett's referencing me now. So it seems he's been a bit coy and actually knows me after all! And all this time you said you didn't know who
I was.
Garrett is a very insecure man.

He should be insecure. You one-upped him with your previously undisclosed skill. Can you knit critter sweaters? Could be a huge market for that!

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

He should be insecure. You one-upped him with your previously undisclosed skill. Can you knit critter sweaters? Could be a huge market for that!

I was afraid to bring it up for fear of Garrett accusing me of being an egomaniacal narcissist and offering to offer autographs via my skilled embroidery abilities

 

[Big Time Reptiles]

Garrett is a very insecure man.

Being a very insecure man, is the least of his problems, he owes in excess of $20,000.00 plus, to several good people who trusted him, and from reading his posts, he doesn't have it, to pay them back.

From watching his ads the last 10 to 12 months, it's my opinion, he took the monies from them for one thing, (uromastyx) and purchased another, mainly those off colored green iguanas from different Islands, not to mention the monitors.

Myself and a couple others copied and saved all his hyped up ads.

It's that time Princess, time to pay.

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles