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Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

Perhaps Markus could weigh in here since he is viewing. Did you receive your Pakistani animals? If not, why? What has the Pakistani told you? Or is that still doible secret, covert, hush hush information?
 
Chris Kennard said:
I would certainly want to keep such a conversation confidential what with all that positive stuff going on.
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Chris, maybe you can get notepad++ or Microsoft Word and write everything on your mind there. Then when you have a good amount of top-of-your-head blurts post them all at once so those trying to catch up with the topic of this BOI, they don't have to sort through your babbling every other post.
 
spinytail said:
Chris, maybe you can get notepad++ or Microsoft Word and write everything on your mind there. Then when you have a good amount of top-of-your-head blurts post them all at once so those trying to catch up with the topic of this BOI, they don't have to sort through your babbling every other post.
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You come here asking Mike to "please update us...you can't let this slide...we just want to help you out". A simple phone call to the number provided by Lynn would have helped enormously. You then say "I have chatted with Michael". Why. You've read this thread and his illness has been amplified here numerous times. Then you tell us all to "respect his decision to stay away for a while". Who hasn't been lately? Except you. You said, "I say we stay on top of him". Great! Maybe you should take that energy wasted on those incredibly witty remarks (headblurts, babbling...) and explain how that is done. The only one's who can take legal action are Garrett's victims. So was there anything in your initial post that has not been discussed in this thread with regard to Mike's illness or satisfaction by Frogman? No. You've nothing. Practice what you preach and take it a step further. Leave Mike alone. He'll post when he can.
 
Markus, glad you're back. Since you obviously missed my question regarding you getting the Pakistani animals, I'll ask this instead. Garrett said in post#663 that "after the year mark we (he and Mike) would both be going after a refund". Of course that would be very difficult for Mike since he has no contact info on the ghost pakistani. But you do. Any updates on that shipment?
 
I don't really get your point Chris. I was requesting an update because it had been a while (so I could care less about the past year of posts and your 2 posts a day) and the response to that request came offline. I found out he is in bad shape right now that makes it hard to be involved at this time and relayed that to the BOI. Also I was asked kindly to update the BOI of his condition, so found my way of saying it. So you can copy paste and go into some post quoting and feel you wrote a gotcha every day to build your ego, but you are just as many have said, adding a bunch of nonsense to sort out when reading this thread. I wish I knew what you get out of this.
 
We can start by pointing out that Garrett and Markus have discontinued offering any help as to when/how Garrett will reimburse Michael for the 6500 dollars he took from him. This is obviously well past many timelines that have been promised except a few "these things take time" comments.
"Stay on top of him" was more or less, if Garrett comes on here and tries to lie about the situation, we correct him and we post facts on the situation if any new things found. That does not mean we have to discuss right this second. Like I said Chris write it down, you are not the narrator of this BOI, though you seem to have tried to be.
 
spinytail said:
We can start by pointing out that Garrett and Markus have discontinued offering any help as to when/how Garrett will reimburse Michael for the 6500 dollars he took from him. This is obviously well past many timelines that have been promised except a few "these things take time" comments.
"Stay on top of him" was more or less, if Garrett comes on here and tries to lie about the situation, we correct him and we post facts on the situation if any new things found. That does not mean we have to discuss right this second. Like I said Chris write it down, you are not the narrator of this BOI, though you seem to have tried to be.
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Just had to get that last little dig in, yes? Perhaps you could give us an example of your definition of "staying on top of him" that differs from anything already addressed in this thread. If Garrett "comes on here and TRIES to lie"? Lol. The only "new things" that could alter this thread at this point are if one or all of his victims post here or if someone exposes or produces the ghost Pakistani (thus my questions to a certain partner of Garrett's). I believe none of that will matter at this point and if I am correct in my prediction, Garrett will have a tough time satisfying his debts from behind bars. I don't need you to tell me I am not the narrator of this BOI. I don't need you to dictate to me to write anything down either. I am on the right side of the fence here. Are you?
 
spinytail said:
Wat? :shrug01: I have no idea what you are talking about Chris or if you know what you are talking about... let me try to comment the best I can make sense of your post.


That is nothing new.


Thanks for repeating that for who? No I did not call him. I was originally contacted by a friend of his after my first post. The rest of that conversation and one with Michael is confidential, but gave me some reason to post an update.
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Who is the friend you were "originally" contacted by? And why are those conversations confidential? What's to hide in your "positive" convos. Just curious.
 
Warning: Hpw about you guys cease with the tossing barbs at each other, eh? Otherwise you both get a free trip to the dugout.
 
Chris I have no idea what side of the fence you are on and don't care. I am comfortable with my comments here, I don't need to be on some side you approve of. The point of being "confidential" was really for you, as the conversations had nothing to do with the BOI and really no one here would have interest but you. So yes I shared some background to answer your already off-topic questions, otherwise the rest is none of your business. Especially since you will take that info and attempt to steer us further off the path.

I do have to ask you Chris, why are you purposely pushing for off-topic conversations not only with me but others here and asking strange accusatory questions every-time someone talks, visits or even simply views the thread? I have to think, are you trying to make this the Chris Show, are you purposely adding confusion to the topic or are you just not playing with a full-deck?
 
spinytail said:
Sorry I am done. Just really confused what Chris is trying to do here.
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There is no confusion in the questions I have asked you regarding your second hand info. You found it important to relay quite a bit of second hand info. You have responded with nothing of substance other than painting a distasteful picture of me without answering any questions of substance. You got your insults in. Good for you. I would like for you to answer some simple questions. You won't. Enough said. By the way. My question regarding what side you're on? I knew the answer. Same as me. Difference is, I hide nothing. If you find something to further put this scammer to rest, have at it. You will obviously have the support of everyone here. Good luck.
 
spinytail said:
Chris I have no idea what side of the fence you are on and don't care. I am comfortable with my comments here, I don't need to be on some side you approve of. The point of being "confidential" was really for you, as the conversations had nothing to do with the BOI and really no one here would have interest but you. So yes I shared some background to answer your already off-topic questions, otherwise the rest is none of your business. Especially since you will take that info and attempt to steer us further off the path.

I do have to ask you Chris, why are you purposely pushing for off-topic conversations not only with me but others here and asking strange accusatory questions every-time someone talks, visits or even simply views the thread? I have to think, are you trying to make this the Chris Show, are you purposely adding confusion to the topic or are you just not playing with a full-deck?
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Again, I don'tget it. If the conversations had nothing to do with the BOI, as you stated, why mention it? Do you honestly believe that no one here would have interest but me? If you truly believe that, why post at all? By saying the "rest is none of your business", is saying it is nobody's business here. Don't use me as an excuse to hold back. I am just a grain of sand here. You posted here soliciting Mike for an answer. You supposedly were contacted by his friend, who obviously told you how sick he is. That wasn't enough. You had to talk to Mike anyway yet have nothing to report other than his condition, which according to you, should not be antagonized by this topic. You've achieved that. Nuff said. Don't worry about those confidential discussions. Mike will probably not be a factor in Garrett's fate. Nuff said.
 
Frogman. How does it feel to take advantage of a guy in Mike's condition? Do you sleep at all? I wouldn't. But then I have a little something I call morals. Any comment?
 
Garrett has viewed. His silence is predictable. Markus? The voice of reason throughout this thread is now silent. The most provocative question asked of Markus is the ONLY one unanswered. Markus. Please explain your affiliation with Oskraba.
 
For what it's worth!

Hello All!

I don't know if it matters at this point since this thread has been going on for a while now. But I wanted to at least give my 2 cents into this matter. Over a year ago I saw an ad on fauna and contacted Garrett. I was interested in Pogona Barbara and he knew a gentlemen in Germany that had some for sale. Garrett was easy to talk with, explained everything and was upfront with me about the shipping/import/export issues involved. I send my payment and it was with a group of a few other buyers that were also shipping in iguana from the same german gentleman. It saved us on shipping cost which is always nice. Then the process started and I waited. Every once in a while we would chat and he would e-mail or text me an update. Never once did I feel unsure or concerned. He explained everything to me as we went along. After christmas and winter holidays ended the cities and german govt. were back up and running and they shipped out the Barbata, Garrett got them and sent pictures. And within an appropriate amount of time I got them shipped to me. They were larger then I thought they would be which was great. Both were very happy and healthy. Since then he has been a pleasant guy to chat with. I have been breeding dragons for over 11 years now and their are many dragon breeders across the US that know who I am. I strive for great customer service and love my dragons. Im sorry to hear that this issue arose with Mike, but as with everything in life and dealing with arguments in general their are always two sides to a story. I hope Mike and Garrett can work all this out and I hope fauna will aid them in that endeavor. The BOI has helped me out before in the past with getting a refund from a scammer. But from my opinion and my experience Garrett was not a scammer. That's all I can go by of course. Well that's my 2 cents and I hope all of you have a great day!
Thanks

Amy Moses
CalicoDragons.com
 
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