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Hey guys, it takes alot to impress me in the herp business ( I really miss the days when we all knew each other and it was much safer trust people). So it has to be a big deal when I post feedback for someone. That being said, my nine year old son decided that for his first "serious herp" he wanted to try one of the best species to work with, but not always easy to find-Lampropeltis t. gaigeae-the Mexican black milk. We found Gary's ad and sent a 10% deposit on 2.2 ( which were fresh into the incubator). And I have to tell you that right from the start this guy was a cut above. Over the course of the next few months, he sent detailed info on every aspect of his animals. We got pictures all along the way of the parents, parents with eggs, eggs, piping, and hatching. I got no less than 2 or more emails a week from him with updates and progress reports. He also called nearly every week to touch base with us. Incredable service, all the neonates were fed 3+ times before he shipped them. Shipping/Packing was perfect and went off without a hitch. Feeding/maintainence charts were included as well. The animals were in perfect condition and beautiful. I should also mention that when the eggs hatched he was extremely low on males, which must have made it very difficult to still fulfill our order, it would have been easier for him to move pairs than to honor our in the egg agreement.
My son was extatic and has had a good experince with his first serious herp endeavour. ( he has had some other herps but this was big for him!)
I cant tell you how pleased we are to find someone that still cares in this hobby, I was begining to lose faith. Gary is one of the good guys worth dealing with. Do not hesitate to buy from him. You will be pleased.

Shawn
 
I have another good story about Gary. I was in the market for an adult pair of black milks and found a pair, although I did not buy from Gary. He still gave me all the info I asked for on them, even gave me his phone number and said I could call anytime when I needed help - I did call and we talked about 20 minutes regarding the Giant Black Milk. He was very nice and very helpful, said I could call back anytime, no problem.

BTW, these snakes come from Panama/Costa Rica, not Mexico -somebody correct me if I am wrong. Lampropeltis t. g.

WJ Long
 
LOL.....

You are very correct on thier true locale...lol....but for some reason they seem to be commonly called Mexican Black milks,... but since you mention it, I would prefer Giant over Mexican.( I've seen it both ways) Sorry for any confusion.

Shawn
 
Ya, Gary is the man! I know him personally and he is one of the most honest guys you can work with. He is also an awesome resource for any questions anyone might have.
Happy Thanksgiving all,
Jason and Hillary
 
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