I know y'all here this all the time, but could someone discuss temps and daylight with me. I have a ghost IMG het albino male that's around 6 1/2 ft and proven from kahl. I'm hoping to breed him to an albino het anery and hypo het albino ph anery. I don't want to waste this potential, therefor any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Ghost IMg het albino x albino het anery breeding help
JCCS
Well-known member
I don't want to be the bad attitude guy. But you spent that kind of money without understanding what they could produce or really understanding their potential? Talk about putting the cart before the horse. You probably need to go take a base level biology course that teaches genetics at a community college/university. That'll help.
Chris
Chris
Scooter1685
Newbie Member
Well, different keepers and breeders give different advice. Jeremy Stone keeps his boas with a hot spot between 88 and 90, and an ambient temperature of about 82-84. They need humidity at least at 40% or they have trouble shedding, may not eat, and are more prone to a whole host of health problems. I prefer to keep the humidity in my reptile room around 48%, with some misting to mimic rain a couple times per week.
As far as photoperiod, I typically try to mimic the natural photoperiod where I live. In the summer, they get more hours of light than in the winter. I don't know that this is strictly necessary, but it is what I do. Some UV light is important in many reptile species for proper metabolism of calcium, though there is still some debate about how necessary it is for boas specifically. I just figure it's better for them to have it, just in case. I'd hate to be shut up with no sunlight.
I'm sure other people in the forum will have additional or different advice to give. This is just what I do with my collection.
As far as photoperiod, I typically try to mimic the natural photoperiod where I live. In the summer, they get more hours of light than in the winter. I don't know that this is strictly necessary, but it is what I do. Some UV light is important in many reptile species for proper metabolism of calcium, though there is still some debate about how necessary it is for boas specifically. I just figure it's better for them to have it, just in case. I'd hate to be shut up with no sunlight.
I'm sure other people in the forum will have additional or different advice to give. This is just what I do with my collection.
JCCS
Well-known member
I have screwed up, and my apologies. I thought you were asking what best to breed to get their potential. I should have read more thoroughly. My best advice would be to keep them healthy, not overweight. Stop feeding for about a month in late October, and introduce in late November. Healthy animals tend to do the rest of the work for you.
People do different things and have success and/or failure, there's no real 'recipe for success'.
I don't do anything special with lighting, my snake room is dark most of the time unless I'm in there with the lights on cleaning/feeding. I keep the blinds down. As far as temps, I don't do anything special with those either, my snake room ambient temp is kept around 75-80ish and hot spots are provided to boas average 85-88, I run heat up the back of the cages. Only once I suspect a female is gravid and breeding is done, I will sometimes add a heating pad to give her an additional option but I don't always do that and have had success both ways.
Good luck.
I don't do anything special with lighting, my snake room is dark most of the time unless I'm in there with the lights on cleaning/feeding. I keep the blinds down. As far as temps, I don't do anything special with those either, my snake room ambient temp is kept around 75-80ish and hot spots are provided to boas average 85-88, I run heat up the back of the cages. Only once I suspect a female is gravid and breeding is done, I will sometimes add a heating pad to give her an additional option but I don't always do that and have had success both ways.
Good luck.
Scooter1685
Newbie Member
As far as good resources for additional information regarding feeding, breeding, substrates, enclosures, etc. there are several good resources I would recommend.
Jeff Ronne (The Boaphile) has a breeding video on VHS, if you can or wish to use that resource. There is a free care sheet at www.redtailboas.com/content/ and many people like it. Jeremy Stone put out a keeping and breeding DVD a year or two ago. Vincent Russo has put out a few books on boas, and "The Complete Boa Constrictor" is popular with many breeders.
There are more sources than that, and you can always ask questions in forums like this one if you have additional questions.
Best of luck to you
Jeff Ronne (The Boaphile) has a breeding video on VHS, if you can or wish to use that resource. There is a free care sheet at www.redtailboas.com/content/ and many people like it. Jeremy Stone put out a keeping and breeding DVD a year or two ago. Vincent Russo has put out a few books on boas, and "The Complete Boa Constrictor" is popular with many breeders.
There are more sources than that, and you can always ask questions in forums like this one if you have additional questions.
Best of luck to you
Durante
New member
Honestly I thought the same thing but it's still the same difference... many folks don't buy them kind of snakes without the intend of reproducing & usually research like crazy before spending that kind of money. At the same time I'm usually broker then most folks too.
Excellent suggestions above. I didn't see the Jeff Ronne VHS but seen a good amount of his written material. I love if anyone know where I could buy a copy or the DVD. The Barkers did a nice DVD with Rich Ihle a few years back too, I thought was pretty good. It might still be available at www.VPI.com I would suggest just trying to be prepared as possible, safe, aware of the risk, & responsible in your choices. Best of luck with everything & if you get a chance post some photos, they sound like some beauties we all could enjoy.
For a reasonably priced book, I highly suggest the Boa Constrictor Manual, the breeding section was written my Mr Ronne I believe. For more detailed info with other species included, I suggest the Reproductive Husbandry of Pythons and Boas.
I don't know if he ever released it on dvd? I was debating letting go of my VHS but I assumed, who really has VHS anymore.
I don't know if he ever released it on dvd? I was debating letting go of my VHS but I assumed, who really has VHS anymore.
JCCS
Well-known member
Also, The Complete Boa Constrictor would probably be a wise purchase.
I understand genetics, and have taken biology. I'm in school for veterinary medicine. I'm also good friends with aj from Peter kahls, and will most likely be attending the same university with him. I asked a general question of advice.
I didn't see the apologies at first. A lot of money was out forth, but I figured between the connections ect.. It should be fine. The male seems to show a lot of interest, yet the albino het anery female not so much. How long would you suggest keeping him in with each female? I recently switched him over to a big hypo ph albino in hopes of her giving it up easier.
Durante
New member
All this info is going to have to be determined by you. You can get all the general time line information & common practices but it's going to fall on you
to determine a plan for your animal. Reading or watching the material suggested will greatly benefit you more then just a member here saying what they did. It sounds like you invested a lot already, don't sure change yourself skimping on the homework because there are always real risk to your animals when breeding no matter how you go about it.
A majority of the member here really do try to help but are usually better suited at answering questions or offering suggestions once your on track & even then the details & any actions will have to be decided by you. Some breeders have strict light TOD setting where other don't use light ever, some drop temps to encourage mating where others feel its not needed or to big of a RI risk, some stop feeding thinking it makes males lethargic, or don't hold there animal to reduce stress, etc, etc
I would check out that material, maybe even keep a close eye on your friend AJ. I'm sure you'll notice everyone does things a little different & that somethings work better for different parties. Determine what you think would work best for you & why, then you'll have more specific question that someone might of already experienced here.
I did actually buy a cheap VHS a few years ago to transfer a few old home movies to DVD & it was a pain. I don't believe Jeff Ronne's movie ever was put on DVD & doubt it will ever get made on one since there is probably a lot of new material that could be added. If you do ever want to sell it you better let me know though, I still want to see it & think its a cool keepsake. I'm going to have to ask my kid now if he knows what a VHS tape is now when I get home, as if I don't feel old enough already, lol.I don't know if he ever released it on dvd? I was debating letting go of my VHS but I assumed, who really has VHS anymore.
JCCS
Well-known member
Honestly, I wouldn't put a male on more than one female per season. More than that and you're risking his life even more so than just breeding him to begin with.
I only tried a male with two females once, what I did was leave him with the first girl for approx. 6 weeks until all signs of courting had stopped, then moved him to the other for the 4 or so weeks he courted her. It was my first time and a big guessing game.
Going forward and in the future, I would only do one male per female.
Going forward and in the future, I would only do one male per female.
Since you say only one female should I remove him from the hypo ph albino? I wanted the albino het anery litter, but the lack of interest made me nice him. He's been copulating with the hypo ph vigorously. I would put a picture of his size if I could. When I talked to Pete he mentioned more than one female, but he's a hard person to get in touch with. I also don't want to bug him. In these few weeks I've noticed the male and female basically do their "thing" with minimal changes. The ghost IMG het albino is at least 6 1/2 ft long and between 13-15 pounds I would assume. The shipment weight was 55 pounds and 4 snakes were in the package. He is thick, and very muscular. I've considered giving him a decent break after I see the proper signs and lack of interest from this pair, and possibly pairing him with another female. I would make sure he had ample rest time and was feed well.