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ok, I hate doing bad guy threads, hate it, but I want you all to be able to make your own decisions. I am not labelling this a bad guy thread atm-but it may turn out that way. This situation has been ongoing since 2012.


I bought five Leopard central American boas, and two female normal ball pythons. I paid in full. Still have not received the snakes or compensation.
I have my IMS. not sure if its all of them but I do have several.
This is the first IM string, read from bottom to top


Re: Boas

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I did not get it until now. The balls are fine they were in a different rack. I will get the babies eating then send them out.









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Oh my..that is horrible! Are your other snakes still okay?

I will let you decide what to do. You can decide how many snakes you want to send. I would feel pretty selfish deciding myself how many I would want so that's up to you.

Are my 2 ball pythons okay? or did ALL the snakes die? and whichever ones you send, I would like it if you could try and have them eating f/t. I can't get live mice/rats here.




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Well this may all be confusing but here we go. When you initially sent me the money, I was living with a family and renting a room from them. To make a very long story shorter....lol.....they made up many lies about me and had me arrested. They stole all my cash (yours included) and many other things from my room while I was in jail. I had to move all of my snakes to a friends place who was not too close to me. He was taking cater of them along with his. The poss gets from last year I just found out all but one did not survive. He had a heat tape over heat and they did not make it. But I did find out that I just had another litter from those parents. I am willing to send you as many of the poss hets from that litter that you want and I will be adding a "surprise" male ballpython. But that is up to you. I just got all the legal stuff situated this week. That is why it has been so hectic on my side. I know it is not an excuse but that is the story.






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I don't have a phone at the moment. My son put it in the toilet. He's only 4...so yeah :/
If you need to tell me something, go ahead and send a PM I hope it's not serious. Are we still going to get the snakes?




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If you could send me your number I will call you and explain what has happened.
Thanks







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Sorry for the delay. I did not see this message til now.
They arw all doing good.




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How are the 5 boas and 2 balls?





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The $430 will be going out wed.
Just checking to see if the payment went out so I can watch for it.


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Originally Posted by gideongabriel
The balance is $430.....300 for boas...50 for balls....and 80 for shipping.





UOTE=reptilebaby]lol Just misuderstood then. Somehow I got t




he other thing in my head!

Glad it made it. how much more do I still owe you? I'd like it if you could put it in pm for me just so I get it right when I send the rest to you. My husband ok'd the 2 female ball pythons too. Did you say $50 for the 2?




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The deposit made it today. They are central American boa not coastal. They just stay smaller





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Hey, I told my husband that they were coastal boas...he asked what kind? Coastal rosys, coastal carpets...I have no idea what ANY kind of boa is. lol I know more about the balls and corns.





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Is there a number I can call you at after I get out of work?





UOTE=reptilebaby]How much more do I owe you?






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That would be fine

Address is
Bryan Piggott
20511 26 Mile Rd
Albion, MI 49224
 
and sorry everyone, I'm doing copy/pastes of the ims. I am NOT good when it comes to anything more tech


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I understand your frustration. I had deleted all of the messages between us before everything happened on my end. I should have more leos and many more boas this year if that will work for you. I will definately make it up to you.
 
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I understand your frustration. I had deleted all of the messages between us before everything happened on my end. I should have more leos and many more boas this year if that will work for you. I will definately make it up to you.


well. i still have our convo. so i guess im lucky there. so what are you planning to do for me in compensation? must tell you this will be the final attempt at fixing, I just cannot go through this, dragging it out as long as it has. I would have been after you sooner if i hadnt lost internet for a while.

Like I said in the last message. I will have more leopards this year aand many others also. I will keep you posted.
 
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just sending you a quick message to check and see how the snake situation is going.
Hope to get this mess taken care of soon

Me also. Waiting on two females as we speak. I had one female roll on me.





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Originally Posted by gideongabriel
I understand your frustration. I had deleted all of the messages between us before everything happened on my end. I should have more leos and many more boas this year if that will work for you. I will definately make it up to you.


well. i still have our convo. so i guess im lucky there. so what are you planning to do for me in compensation? must tell you this will be the final attempt at fixing, I just cannot go through this, dragging it out as long as it has. I would have been after you sooner if i hadnt lost internet for a while.

Like I said in the last message. I will have more leopards this year aand many others also. I will keep you posted.
 
and sorry about the top message. possible HET leopards. somehow that got cut off
 
I'm pretty much out of patience now. I either want my snakes or my money back.
 
I'm hoping that he actually comes through with the deal but I can't help but wonder if it's going to happen. I would have been willing to buy more from him but after this I just feel like it would be too big a headache with actually having them get here
 
2012?
And you still have neither the animals or your money back?
That is disgracefull no matter what the events/circumstances are.
You are a LOT more patient than I ever could be, especially where very hard earned money is concerned.
I think at this stage he has NO option but to send a full refund AND some extra as compensation.
 
yes. I haven't seen either a refund or a single animal.



the exact date of those first ims is 03-05-2012, 06:56 PM
 
and that's with the last one..the one he sent me in that string. I had actually contacted him days before that
 
There seems to be some initial communication missing but are the messages, that you have posted, the extent of your communications in the past 3+ years?
Are you able to give dates for those messages?
Have you sent a request, to the seller, for a refund of your payment?
 
I deleted the first couple where I just asked him about them and all before I thought wait need to save em. and I haven't asked him for a refund yet. was giving him a chance to come through with the snakes since he may very well have the babies soon. but if he doesn't, I will ask for one. i'll have to check on dates for them all, since only one date shows up on the IM string in each one
 
I'm reposting them with the available dates. several of the IMS in the strings were done over several months replying





03-05-2012, 06:56 PM
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Sorry for the delay. I did not see this message til now.
They arw all doing good.




Quote:
Originally Posted by reptilebaby
How are the 5 boas and 2 balls?





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Originally Posted by gideongabriel
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Originally Posted by reptilebaby
The $430 will be going out wed.
Just checking to see if the payment went out so I can watch for it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
The balance is $430.....300 for boas...50 for balls....and 80 for shipping.





UOTE=reptilebaby]lol Just misuderstood then. Somehow I got t




he other thing in my head!

Glad it made it. how much more do I still owe you? I'd like it if you could put it in pm for me just so I get it right when I send the rest to you. My husband ok'd the 2 female ball pythons too. Did you say $50 for the 2?




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Originally Posted by gideongabriel
The deposit made it today. They are central American boa not coastal. They just stay smaller





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Originally Posted by reptilebaby
Hey, I told my husband that they were coastal boas...he asked what kind? Coastal rosys, coastal carpets...I have no idea what ANY kind of boa is. lol I know more about the balls and corns.





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Originally Posted by gideongabriel
Is there a number I can call you at after I get out of work?





UOTE=reptilebaby]How much more do I owe you?






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That would be fine

Address is
Bryan Piggott
20511 26 Mile Rd
Albion, MI 49224








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If you could send me your number I will call you and explain what has happened.
Thanks







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Sorry for the delay. I did not see this message til now.
They arw all doing good.




Quote:
Originally Posted by reptilebaby
How are the 5 boas and 2 balls?





Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
Quote:
Originally Posted by reptilebaby
The $430 will be going out wed.
Just checking to see if the payment went out so I can watch for it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
The balance is $430.....300 for boas...50 for balls....and 80 for shipping.





UOTE=reptilebaby]lol Just misuderstood then. Somehow I got t




he other thing in my head!

Glad it made it. how much more do I still owe you? I'd like it if you could put it in pm for me just so I get it right when I send the rest to you. My husband ok'd the 2 female ball pythons too. Did you say $50 for the 2?




Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
The deposit made it today. They are central American boa not coastal. They just stay smaller





Quote:
Originally Posted by reptilebaby
Hey, I told my husband that they were coastal boas...he asked what kind? Coastal rosys, coastal carpets...I have no idea what ANY kind of boa is. lol I know more about the balls and corns.





Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
Is there a number I can call you at after I get out of work?





UOTE=reptilebaby]How much more do I owe you?






Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongabriel
That would be fine

Address is
Bryan Piggott
20511 26 Mile Rd
Albion, MI 49224
 
this is easier. its the older string of ims dates



Re: Boas and balls
09:56 PM gideongabriel
10-18-2014 Re: Boas and balls
08:16 PM gideongabriel
09-08-2012 Re: Boas
03:41 PM gideongabriel
09-05-2012 Re: Boas
11:44 AM gideongabriel
09-03-2012 Re: Boas
03:57 PM gideongabriel
03-05-2012 Re: Boas
06:56 PM gideongabriel




this is newest one. the date for it
06-04-2015 Re: Boas and balls
10:48 AM gideongabriel



and I wasn't online for a long time cause I didn't have the internet for a long time and didn't have a vehicle so no way to get somewhere
 
now many of the ims in those strings were done over the time where it appears there weren't any. wish they included all the dates
 
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