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Glades Herp ( Good Guys)

A new quote

Not in regards to Glade's:

While I was not present, when this particular incident occurred. I have witnessed vendors, I will not mention names, who demonstrated, what I consider, a total disregard for both the safety of an individual, and thus, the public at large, by selling venomous specimens to indviduals, who admittedly, had no prior experience with such. One such incident involved a 15 year old boy who "almost" acquired a Crotalus, until his father arrived to intervene. I do believe a majority of the blame should be placed on such an individual attempting to acquire such a specimen. Perhaps this is one form, or another, of the Darwinian theory playing itself out within the herp community.
Here in Arkansas, we have no state ordinances regarding venomous, or exotics. Only on the local level are such restrictions found and only rarely at best.
While I do not maintain venomous at home, I have a young child of curious nature, I do work with an extensive academic collection. Such specimens are not to be maintained by "dare-devil" or "macho" type personalities: I know, preaching to the choir here.
I have been paged too many times, late at night I might add, to visit a hospital so that I may identify an "exotic" snake, not always venomous I might add, which has bitten the owner who is too intoxicated to be of any assistance to the medical staff treating him. On one occassion, I was summoned to our local Childrens Hospital, to identify a snake which had bitten a student
after the Biology teacher brought it into the class room and passed it around. The teacher identified the specimen as a species of Heterodon, a hatchling at that. The snake was handled by approximately 12 students, when it was dropped by a young boy, the. The teacher the reassured the child the snake would not bite and the child picked it back up, promptly receiving a bite to his left little finger. Well, the finger begon to bruise and swell and the boy was taken to the hospital and I was contactedf by the ER attending physician. To make this long story short, the snake was a Sistrurus miliarius streckeri.
My point is, there is enough bad press in regards to reptiles in general. Venomous are probably the most scrutinized, but only after an accident occurs. As most of you probably know, most government officials operate on hind-sight, rather then fore-sight. They jump on an issue after the fact.
I believe a bit more proactivity, in regards to local regulation of venomous, on behalf of those in the community keeping them, would go a long way to the future preservation of that right. Either this, or sit back, wait for something to go wrong, then try putting out a fire.
Oh well, I have said well enough.

Best regards,

Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
[email protected]
 
I have a friend who orders from glades and trade with glades. I have nothing to complaing about except for the fact that my friend pratically gives animals to them super cheaply. Gaboons at $20ea, and baby yellow eyelash vipers for $50 or $60ea, and yet he still has to pay for shipping the snakes out to them, and to recieve a shipment from them. I would think they would cut him a break in shipping or cut a deal with the animals hes interested in, but they keep there prices, and when he inquires that he's interested in certain animals and wants to be notified ASAP when they recieve them, he is never called, and finds out about the animals when there already sold. Otherwise there animals are alright.
 
glades

i just got a really nice animal form glades. they were very nice to do business, they seem to take relly nice care of their animals. i will definitely buy more animals from them in the future!

karl ramsdell
 
I dealt with Glades 1x and that was the last time I will ever deal with them.

They had gotten 2.1 Leucistic spitting cobras that I produced, and the deal was to do a trade on whatever in the amount of $1500.00. I ended up just getting 2 Red foot torts, and 5 Dwarf caimens, well all the caimens were extremely thin, and 3 of them were missing the ends of their tails (all had toes missing) + both Red foots had bad infections on their plastrons (one of them had a severe RI). I was never told about any of this, and they just ended up getting some sweet, rare, expensive animals for next to nothing.

They were never contacted about this, as I feel it should have never happened in the first place, and I will just avoid them like the ripoffs they are.

BTW: They still owe me $110.00, and never answer their emails (probably just too many). I will let them keep that $110.00, because I do not want any more sick mistreated animals from them.

I know alot of people have had good experience's with them, but trust me, all of them are not good.

Chad
 
OOOOPS!!

Forgot to post my full name.

Chad Bachman
 
Well the upshot of the last communication I had with Glades was that they did not sell venomoids and had never sold venomoids. I suggested they make their stance clear by putting an educational message on their web page about the cruel and inhumane reality of the venomoid industry. Here's to hoping that they do this, if they really do want to make a stand against this unethical practice.

I wonder if there is the possibility of any honest confusion here. I don't personally recognize "RF" as anyone who worked for Glades and the person from Glades I talked to says he doesn't either. I don't know everyone who works for Glades however.

I've seen situations at hot shows where tables belonging to different vendors were so close together it was difficult to tell who was actually behind what table. Glades usually has a block of tables, but there have been other vendors close enough to them that I have found it difficult to figure out whose stock is whose. I have never personally seen venomoids for sale at a Glades table, but I don't attend very many of the hot shows.
 
a little disappointed

I called yesterday, inquiring about the Miami Corns they have listed for their current inventory. They have 2 hatchlings, 8 juveniles, and 5 adults listed as available Miami phase Corns. I asked what they meant by Miami phase, as I am concerned about LOCALITY Miami phase Corns. I was told "Oh yes, these are the silver type, wild collected from Miami."

So I drove over an hour there on the interstate, only to be told they have a bunch of Corns kept together, and you have to 'pick out' the Miamis when you see they are grey. HUH????

So I looked at them anyway. One container was full of bugs, none of the others looked like what I think a Miami phase should look like. As Corn snakes go, they weren't BAD, but I certainly wouldn't have driven that far to find out they DO NOT have the LOCALITY Miami Corns labeled as such, therefore I have no idea where any of them were caught. There were a couple of dozen small Corns, mostly Juveniles. What they are is anybody's guess, as far as I could tell. Having seen what I know to be real locality Miami Corns (including wild caught), none of theirs looked like what I was hoping for. They ALL have brown markings, not reddish or anything close to red. And there were no 'silver' snakes, only a few with a fair amount of grey toward the tail. I don't doubt there were a few wild caught Corns from Miami, but not with the features most people normally associate with a Miami Corn, and certainly not the number of available specimens they had advertised/listed.

On the other hand, I did also look at some of their boas and pythons, and they were a more impressive selection, although I have no idea what they have listed as available and how that matches up with what I saw.

If I had gone there of my own accord after reading their website, I probably wouldn't post this message. However, I did call, was assured they had the silver, LOCALITY Miami Corns I was looking for, etc.

Larry Glisson
Florida
 
Glades

How are they doing on setting up in their new shop? I was there shortly after they moved and they were pretty hectic. I thought it was much nicer then the old shop in Ft Meyers, but they still had a ton of setting up to be done. Also do they have a bunch of crocs? I heard the purpose of the move was to start a salt water croc farm. Just curious, before I take the 2 hour drive.

Thanks, Rob Carpenter :>off_to<:
 
I saw a row of several (7 or 8?) small buildings. I only went inside two of the buildings, and I didn't see anything but snakes where I went. I have no idea what is inside the other buildings. They appeared clean and maintained, aside from the small swarm of flies inside one of the Corn tupperware containers.

To be perfectly clear, they did have a FEW labeled as 'Miami Corns', but those looked even less like what I think of as a Miami Corn than most of the random Corn Snakes we looked through, hoping to find the non-existent silver snake. There was one Corn that had reddish markings, but unfortunately that one had no silver/grey at all.

To me, driving 75 miles each way is a major inconvenience (not to mention the cost of gas, etc.), and I do resent people not taking the time to give accurate information, knowing I would be travelling this distance. Frankly, the attitude of at least one of the two guys I interacted with was obviously smug, and perhaps even amused that I had driven that far for something they didn't even have. I don't know his name, but he has dark hair and a beard and is probably under 30 years of age. In my opinion, it does not live up to the hype of the largest reptile collection for sale in the country or whatever they claim. Hogtown Herpetological in Gainesville was much more impressive, in my opinion. (it's no longer in business, although I have heard the owner may begin selling reptiles again.) They're no Hogtown Herp, based on lack of effective communication and also lack of correct labeling/identification of the animals (at least the 'locality' Corns.) Hopefully they will try to improve their customer service and tracking/labeling of Wild Caught locality animals, as I obviously am not the only one who has expressed similar concerns.

Larry Glisson
Florida
 
It is a shame you had to drive so far for nothing, BUT...

everyone should remember that Glades (unlike Hogtown) is mainly a shipper / farm, not a walk-in type store. I am not as familiar with the new set up (have only been there once), but at the old place, the people packing could make use of the knowledge of the owner and and the employees who actually cared for the animals when packing for the customers. As a walk-in, you only got to talk to one person, perhaps not the right person. I believe they are encouraging walk-ins only on Fri and Sat, although I don't know if that is still the current plan. I am guessing that walk-ins are a small part of the business, so perhaps they are not as well prepared for that segment as for the shipping part of the business. Those facts don't make your long drive any more palatable, but might provide some explanation. Again, I can't speak for them as I haven't been in that close of contact since they left Ft. Myers, but am just guessing based on previous experience from when we used to be part of Glades prior to 1996.
 
They don't provide photos of Corns for sale for those interested in mail order. I would have preferred to have been able to mail order one that I saw a photo of (and liked), but I didn't have that opportunity. I am glad I saw their selection for myself, so that I will no longer wonder about their 'locality' Corns. There is another thread on this board and Glades and 'locality' Okeetees, if you didn't see that already.
 
I bought a pair of corn snakes from them years ago when Bill Love was still there.Got the snakes looked great then i sexed them both males.I called and talked to Bill and he said you bought a pair and i shipped a pair.Then i said ya a pair of males and he said i do not sell pairs of females if you wanted a male and female you should have order them that way.I have not placed any orders since that day.These were the Rev.albino okeetee corns (bad spelling) this is when they were high end corns.
 
Wow!

I never heard Bill say anything like that before! Don't know why he would have said something like that. We generally assume a pair is a male and female, unless noted otherwise. It was a long time ago, don't know what happened there. Very strange!
 
That's hilarious, as that is never

something that Bill Love would say! Holy Cow!
And while on the subject of Glades, RobRoy and Robbie have always treated me well and I have never had a problem with them.
Nuff' said!

Randal Berry
 
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