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Greater Harrisburg Reptile Expo, Carlisle P.A.

OK, so went to the show. How was it? Well I guess it was about the typical for the Carlisle show. There were about 25-30 vendors, most familiar faces, and only about 500 or so thru the door, Which seems to be the overall avg for this show. The show had a good feel to it, didnt seem to be all the tensions that are currently involved with some of the other shows, which I enjoyed. I didnt have to hear vendors in their little huddles whining and crying

The food definitely was better then previous, the raffle was a good idea (although I didnt win anything, lol).

This show has had alot of struggles since it even began, and once again it is being operated by someone new. I will say that it appears that the new promoter is making the effort to get the word out there, so maybe with a little hard work and some help from the reptile communinty this could be a nice little show worth attending. I personally choose the smaller one on one shows where I can actually view an animal and talk to the vendor. So keep pluggin along and make this show work
 
oops, big fingers hit the wrong buttons.

I set up at the show yesterday. Didnt have a great sale day by along shot, but got to spend some time among good friends, and meet some new faces. Reminds of the good ole days at a little place called Indian Steps. (get to that in a moment)

Chad and Eric seem to be making some strides at trying to make the show a little better so I hope they can pull it together and bring it around.

I am not sure if anyone will remember this, with exception to some of those who have been around for awhile, But there use to be a little outdoor show and round up years ago known as Indian Steps. This thing was not huge by a long shot, but in a time when shows were virtually non existent, this is what we had. It was basically a nice day where vendors basically got together to buy, sell and trade their animals. Everyone had a laid back, good time and the day was all about the animals, no politics, no BS, just reptile enthusiasts do what they enjoyed.
 
I like the idea of a show that is laid back,casual, easy going and just an enjoyable day. :) It was kind of nice, walking around talking to other vendors, seeing what they had, listening to people laughing and joking with each other...
I saw a few regulars, but got to talk to quite a few new people, I am happy about that.

I agree that the new promoters are really trying to get this show going. We were asked quite a few times as vendors, if all was ok, if there was anything we needed,ect... that was nice too!

There might not have been huge numbers going through the door, but I think if advertising is bumped up a bit in the right places, it should get more people in. I don't think there was enough time for a huge amount of advertising for the show yesterday.
Personally as a new vendor, I think this show could be something in the future. I have already paid for my table for the March 13th show. :D
 
we had 407 paying admissions and about 200 5 and under. highest attendance was 658 but that 407 is up from last show wich was 290 but that included the children. 20 vendors and 60 tables up from the november vendor list wich was 14 vendors. im not sure of the table count because i dont have access to that information. the people that did come stayed for the raffles. we gave away 3 raffles totaling $100. the mood of the room was up beat and positive and every one was having a good time. Becides thats why were here right? to have a good time doing something we love. the food is deffenitly better. the consesions are now being catered by a resteraunt based out of camp hill called Flinchys http://www.flinchys.com with everyones help we will make this one of the customer and vendor favorites on the east coast.
 
we had 407 paying admissions and about 200 5 and under. highest attendance was 658 but that 407 is up from last show which was 290 but that included the children. 20 vendors and 60 tables up from the November vendor list which was 14 vendors. I'm not sure of the table count because i don't have access to that information. the people that did come stayed for the raffles. we gave away 3 raffles totaling $100. the mood of the room was up beat and positive and every one was having a good time. Besides that's why were here right? to have a good time doing something we love. the food is definitely better. the concessions are now being catered by a restaurant based out of camp hill called Flinchy's http://www.flinchys.com with everyone's help we will make this one of the customer and vendor favorites on the east coast.
 
raffles were a good idea, show went horrible selling feeders, did not cover any of my expenses. but attendance was definitely up and the place was clean as always. i have to say that was the worst sales at any show i have had yet.
 
The only thing that show has going for it that it's clean and you have space. I didn't go but went to every show before that. But I don't mind dirty bathrooms or crowded spaces. I'm a commercial construction worker. Well hopefully that show happens again but again you won't get me out there.
 
the show has had a ruff start that is true but I'm sure you will all be pleasantly surprised when you see the turn out in march. but till then keep the comments coming we want to make this good for everyone.
 
I also set up for the show.... i still like the place ... i will still go ... i do ok there, actually about the same as i did at the super expo the week before with 4 times the amount of traffic .In all honesty i have made money every time, some guys do ...some dont...its like that at every venue every where. its the luck of the draw i guess.

the show is a weird one ... i think it will grow, if it continues .. and gets more support from vendors etc... it always has a nice mellow vibe and has everything most people complain about wanting in a venue .... haha less vendors and traffic.

also Chad ,Eric and butch are cool guys to work with very straight up ...they seem to want to make it a great show.. that helps.
 
Ok, I've been sick the last few days so i may be a bit moody, but some of you are just plain ignorant. Why would you come on here after not going to a show just to proclaim it is not worth your time? It's really rude and inconsiderate of the time that the promoter and the vendors who actually LIKE the show put in.

What is wrong with a smaller show where you actually get a chance to talk to potential customers/vendors? What's wrong with a smaller show where you don't have 120+ vendors trying to undercut each others prices and talk bad about other vendors to keep customers at their table?

Wow, a reptile show where you actually get to talk reptiles and have fun.....

Honestly, for some of us it's really not about the money. Some of us actually like the smaller local shows where we can have a fun day out. It's cheaper than a baseball game, and a lot funner if you ask me. If it was just about selling my surplus offspring I would wholesale them and skip shows entirely.

I don't vend this show because it is a longer drive than I make to do shows. I like to keep my drive time under 2 hours because I like to sleep. But if it was a more local show I would vend and/or attend regular. Support your local shows that are run clean and professional. If not they might not be here next year.
 
WOW, Matt, I may at one time not have agreed with something you have said in the past, BUT you definitely hit it right on the money with this one in my opinion. I agree with you 100%.

I do vend, and of course it is nice to make some sales and some money, to atleast cover your expenses and maybe feed your animals, But as Jamie above has mentioned, its the luck of the draw, you win some and you lose some.

It cant always be about the money, if I didnt like it I wouldnt do it.
 
i agree with you matt I hope this show can get back on its feet because the location is very clean and it is a good place to have a venue like this so it hopefully can get back up and running with success. The size makes it more enjoyable whether or not you sell things but it makes it easier as a person that is gonna try to breed animals and learn how to do those things a smaller show is much better. I stood around after looking at the vendors animals and talked to Joe and Genna to learn how to become a successful breeder. I like the show so keep it going.
 
Ok, I've been sick the last few days so i may be a bit moody, but some of you are just plain ignorant. Why would you come on here after not going to a show just to proclaim it is not worth your time? It's really rude and inconsiderate of the time that the promoter and the vendors who actually LIKE the show put in.

What is wrong with a smaller show where you actually get a chance to talk to potential customers/vendors? What's wrong with a smaller show where you don't have 120+ vendors trying to undercut each others prices and talk bad about other vendors to keep customers at their table?

Wow, a reptile show where you actually get to talk reptiles and have fun.....

Honestly, for some of us it's really not about the money. Some of us actually like the smaller local shows where we can have a fun day out. It's cheaper than a baseball game, and a lot funner if you ask me. If it was just about selling my surplus offspring I would wholesale them and skip shows entirely.

I don't vend this show because it is a longer drive than I make to do shows. I like to keep my drive time under 2 hours because I like to sleep. But if it was a more local show I would vend and/or attend regular. Support your local shows that are run clean and professional. If not they might not be here next year.

:iagree: I kept out of this one because I don't vend at shows. BUT... I did read some of the postings with a sad heart..and Thank you for pointing out the joy that should have been present!
 
Expos

Hi all,
We are new to the reptile world having purchased our first corn snake in January. We live in Stephens City, VA and are interested in attending expos to increase our corn snake collection and supplies as we may plan to breed in a year or so. Since the expos are at least one hour (being the Manassas, VA show) and 2+ for all the others...can someone tell me which shows will be worth the drive for corns? And which shows we should avoid?
Thanks!
Also, anyone else on here in our area?
 
Havre De Grace MD is on Saturday see a guy named Rick Krumrine he usually has a good selection of corns or any of the PA shows would also have a variety
 
I would try my luck with any of the Pa shows for corns, The Carlisle show is just up 81 north for you, while it is a small show it is far more worth the extra drive time and has alot more to offer then attending the Manassas show.
 
I would try my luck with any of the Pa shows for corns, The Carlisle show is just up 81 north for you, while it is a small show it is far more worth the extra drive time and has alot more to offer then attending the Manassas show.

Plus, it is only $5.00 admission fee! Has good food too! :D
 
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