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Hi guys whats up, new to fauna. I figure since Im such a bad person and not having very good luck with selling a snake Well anyways I posted a ad to trying to sell a 09 mojave female I simply put on there she is healthy and took some picture and was gonna take offers on her, I never put on there where I got her from, needless to say I will do so next ads I post that is my bad, Anyways since im having problems with people on here and I got like 4 pages of crap on the for sale ad, I figured I would start a BOI, so here's to yall.

First off had a brianb2157 replay to my ad saying he saw this snake in person and he would buy her back if he had the money. which Like I said I never posted in my ad where I got her from. But brianb2157 is where I got her we traded on a gun I had up for sale with alot of ammo back in january. Well then I get a post from another lady pretty much saying thats funny because thats the snake she sold brianb22157, then he did comment back saying yes it was we traded like stated befor.
Well then I get another post from StrictlyExotics about the ad wanting to know if it was mite free. which I posted back yes she was, then he adds back this story where brianb2157 was suposed to sell him this snake with the rest of his collection, in February and drop them off well I still thought no big deal.he wanted to know when I got her from him I stated somtime in January didn't know the day.well then he pretty much in his own words calling my a lair sayin how it was funny I got in it Jan when he was gonna get it in Feb and I pretty much need to get my storys staight. he did state the that he believe I had her , just not in janaury
I then actaully posted saying it looks like to me you need to be asking brianb2157 some questions not so much me. making me look to be the bad guy here,
I then put I did email him and waiting on a response. Well now I checked my email and look what he sent me



RE: Hi‏
From: brian branam ([email protected])
Sent: Sun 3/07/10 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]

Yea man I know him I tried calling you around that time but i guess you changed your number and I never had your email. I seen on fauna all the post about her and about the mite problem, its the same snake i was gonna sell him in febuary i can let you know for sure she never had mites nore do the ones i have now. i just told him that cause i thought i do everything i could to get her back. was just trying to delayin him i was gonna give ur gun back plus cash. but i didnt here back from him in a few weeks so i quit worrying about it then when i saw ur ad i figured i would said that so you might get her sold quicker and now i have major family problems so i could careless about fauna or posting crap on there iv got better things to do right now, i will prolly never log back on there actually, sorry about the problems your having on there you half to watch some of them people on there, there way to BIG on playing with there snakes. Iv got these other guys still here i you would like to get them real cheap need to get rid of them, they are healthy like i said befor never had mites, i will make you a offer you cant refuse. get in touch with me if you want them, good look with fauna.



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hi
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:01:57 -0600

Hey man I will make it short and quick, Do you know a Dean from out of Norman OK. was you going to sell him some snakes or somthing, because I have posted a ad on Fauna about the mojave female I got back in Janurary from you, on trying to sell her. Well needless to say its not going over all that good because he says this is the same snake you was gonna sell him and drop it off Feb 12th I believe. Anyways it has caused a BIG problem that I don't like considering the fact it makes me look like a bad guy. PLEASE reply back here or on Fauna to try to straightin this out. THANKS

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So everyone else can veiw this and you decide, and maybe people should actually talk to someone nicely and not make their own decision so quick!:shrug01:
 
If you were so concerned about what we had to say, why did you delete your ad? I never questioned whether or not you owned the snake. what I do NOT believe is that you bought this in January. Either way, the snake has NOT grown much since being in Brians, as well as, your hands. The underlying issue here is the actual health of the snake, not if you own it. Yes, it was to be sold to me in a group lot, in February. You are new to Fauna so we are going to ask questions in your post. One of the interested parties in that snake, I happen to know and we spent 2 hours on the phone last night regarding this snake. We were BOTH interested in her. We arent partners, nor affiliated with each other. When I am told that the snake in question was exposed to a mite problem, I am going to make EVERYONE aware of it.

As for me calling you a liar... I wouldnt go that far. I think you dont keep an accurate record of your purchases since you cannot tell me the purchase date of the animal in question. One thing is for certain though, one of you is full of something here.
 
yea confusing should be in my shoes trying to sell her. new to fauna and I get this. what are you wanting to know Mark. thanks
 
GtpKeeper87 said:
yea confusing should be in my shoes trying to sell her. new to fauna and I get this. what are you wanting to know Mark. thanks
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James, on a side note, you should inform Brian regarding this thread because his name will be brought up in it and maybe he will want to chime in;)
 
because I have 5 pages of crap in there! Iv started a new ad that looks alot better. yea I don't keep date of stuff like this just because I guess unlike you saying you have 50k worth snakes I don't Iv got like 3 and there pets not tryin to make money and breed them. I simply have no use for this one was the reason I was tryin to make money off of her. And I told you more than once when I got it . you know what I REALLY like is that I actually talked to him today and your so dang worried about me that you still haven't even made atempt to contact brian, the last thing you said to him you still wanted the snakes just when they was healty. Then tell me that was a deal breaker lastnight when you heard they had mites, so does that mean he was gonna drive and bring them to you when they was healthy and you wasn't gonna pay? after YOU said you was gonna buy them
 
Yes I did actually just emailed him again sayin he needs to then I text him since i got his number now
 
You know striclty I have no problem with you its just the way you handled it. Don't you think maybe just maybe since you was suposed to be buying her you should of contacted him FIRST then if I did just got her like you thought I did. then you could started of posting the things then??? Just asking I mean really answer that one thats about as nice as I can ask it to.
 
GtpKeeper87 said:
I don't Iv got like 3 and there pets not tryin to make money and breed them. I simply have no use for this one was the reason I was tryin to make money off of her.
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Do you COMMONLY sell your pets? Call it what it is, you are flipping it without any regard to the actual snake itself. I dont even have a problem with the flipping as some here do.


GtpKeeper87 said:
And I told you more than once when I got it . you know what I REALLY like is that I actually talked to him today and your so dang worried about me that you still haven't even made atempt to contact brian, the last thing you said to him you still wanted the snakes just when they was healty. Then tell me that was a deal breaker lastnight when you heard they had mites, so does that mean he was gonna drive and bring them to you when they was healthy and you wasn't gonna pay? after YOU said you was gonna buy them
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Once he told me that he had a mite issue, I was done. I told him to contact me when they were gone and I would reconsider it then. He said it should be a FEW days and I said that I wouldnt even consider it until a month after their was no issue with the problem. It has been nowhere near that amount of time.

Why would I go out and buy someone elses problem? As for me NOT paying, trust me... I have TONS of purchases, over 6000.00 just in the last month alone. Me paying is never an issue. Me paying for a snake with mites on delivery, well, we know how YOU ended up with the snake;) Maybe thats why he decided to let me go as a buyer on them because he knew their were issues that I am going to see in person?
 
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You know striclty I have no problem with you its just the way you handled it. Don't you think maybe just maybe since you was suposed to be buying her you should of contacted him FIRST then if I did just got her like you thought I did. then you could started of posting the things then??? Just asking I mean really answer that one thats about as nice as I can ask it to.
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I wasnt going to buy ANYTHING with mites;) I would have spent the money on a healthy collection all day long. Check my feedback... Dont even look at the feedback left for me. Look at the feedback I have left for others. Money is NOT an issue when I want something.
 
OP, you're jumping the gun. No one called you a liar, but don't you think it does reflect on you when the guy you got the snake from posts about how he'd buy the snake if he had the cash? As if you wouldn't see something like that in an ad and not wonder if something shady was going on?

Then he goes and lies again. And again. See, some of us are the kinda people that figure if someone will lie about the little stuff, they'll sure as heck lie to you about the big stuff. First he's saying if he had the cash he'd buy her when he only had her in his possession for a short time before he started trying to sell or trade her off. Then he's saying he'd give you the gun back plus cash. Seriously? If he traded snakes for a gun, he didn't do it because he needed money, he did it because he took advantage of my kindness and then figured he'd use those animals to trade up for something he really wanted. Then he's telling you he's got family problems and will sell you more snakes at a good deal? This guy's shady as the day is long, and I regret any business dealings I had with him.

Had I had any idea in the beginning that Brian was going to flip these guys, they would not have been sent to him. I have no issue selling wholesale to the right people, but he pretended he really wanted these animals. I seriously debated with myself about buying them back, but I don't trust his husbandry. I'm a bit picky in that respect as far as who I'l buy from, and quarantine religiously. I regret very much that my name has been associated with him, because someone almost bought from him just based on the fact that I had him on my friends list. That has of course been fixed.

All most of us want here is honesty. And truthfully, you really don't seem like a bad guy. But, all this talk of people attacking you when they're not is only going to hurt you in the end. People can be a bit gruff around here, but we mean well. My suggestion? Let it go. Find that animal a good home where she won't continue to be bounced around.

And Mark? S'okay, he's blonde. But we all still love him anyway.

Just my rambling view and random thoughts.
 
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First off had a brianb2157 replay to my ad saying he saw this snake in person and he would buy her back if he had the money. which Like I said I never posted in my ad where I got her from. But brianb2157 is where I got her we traded on a gun I had up for sale with alot of ammo back in january. Well then I get a post from another lady pretty much saying thats funny because thats the snake she sold brianb22157, then he did comment back saying yes it was we traded like stated befor.
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Actually, he posted that if he had the money he would buy it, not that he would buy it back. That is where the issue is.

And then he goes on to lie again. Admittedly even.
 
I agree 100% but when I keep tellin someone he should talk to the other person instead of making me to sound like a bad guy. I answered eveything that I knew at the time. And strictly I never question how much u had in ur snakes I simply just stated what u told me man. And I Agree to let it go believe me. And I started so people can see the snake had no mites. And when I actully got the snake. And to show I wasn't trying to screw anyone over! Unlike Brian was trying to do to dean. Enough being said I
off to work won't be able to post anything until tonight
 
GtpKeeper87 said:
I agree 100% but when I keep tellin someone he should talk to the other person instead of making me to sound like a bad guy. I answered eveything that I knew at the time. And strictly I never question how much u had in ur snakes I simply just stated what u told me man. And I Agree to let it go believe me. And I started so people can see the snake had no mites. And when I actully got the snake. And to show I wasn't trying to screw anyone over! Unlike Brian was trying to do to dean. Enough being said I
off to work won't be able to post anything until tonight
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Thats just it. You are throwing Brian under the bus by saying he was trying to scam me. Do you realize that if he wanted to rip me off, he could have easily. I offered to send him PayPal BEFORE he was to deliver. He said that he would rather get paid in cash on delivery. To me, that doesnt sound like a guy trying to rip someone off. Nowhere in his deleted ad stated that he wanted to ship the snakes. He wanted local p/u or delivery only.

I just wanted to make absolutely sure the snake had NO mites as I was told, per your posted email, that Brian had a mite problem. That was posted in YOUR evidence, not mine.
 
You know I told Brian in the email which I see he posted that I wasn't gonna post on this cause I could careless, but I just had to check it out. Lol strictly are you freaking stupid Did you not read that email at the first page. The damn snakes had no mites never did! No at first I wasn't trying to rip you off. I really thought I was gonna get the mojave back in time, that's why I never kept emailing you, and on top of that u never told me the u woul half to reconsider them u tol me to keep u up todate on the might problem and give it a month. The last email I sent was there no mites on the snakes and you replyed with what are you treatin them with on feb 18th. And lol you have no problem with money or getting it. Tell me why I came down from 1200 to 900 because u was low on money or u had to make sure it was ok with u wife and parents because I believe you said u lived with them. This is why I will never post on fauna again after this yall are fuckin stupid!!! James hasn't done nothing wrong and I guess yall can't see that. To busy trying to make him out to be the bad guy. And no you didn't actaully call him a lair but the shit you was asking and sayin was the same thing. Instead of coming to me first!!! Lol love the Internet
 
Brian, I told you that I wouldnt even bother with it for at least a month. You are correct, I did NOT say that I would not buy them, however, I didnt say I was going to as well. As for your email to him stating that they never had mites, but you told me that they did. What for? As for you LOWERING your price, I am pretty sure you were lowering your price so tempt into buying them. Ya, sorry, but I wasnt buying 2 Spiders, 1 Mojo, a normal, and a Pastel for 1200.00. Your first offer to me was at 1000.00 and I told you that I would consider them. You then, threw in a rat rack, flexwatt, some shelving, an Albino Burmese, and a rainbow boa plus took off 100.00 to NOT pay by PayPal. At that point, I was interested. As for money issues.... LoL Want to see a screen shot of my PayPal acct since speaking to you regarding purchasing these snakes?
 
I'm curious why the OP started this thread about himself??
 
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