Bad Guy Handoff Renee Stastka libel

[Handoff]

Why would she have your drivers license with an clear picture of her/you on it? BTW, I spoke to SR SO they did not have any "Deal" other than to turn yourself in.

 

[candace313]

I'm a little perplexed. If she has an outstanding warrant for giving you a worthless check, and you were smart enough to ID her by writing down her DL at the time the check was uttered, then why isn't she answering for the charge?

If it's about finding out where she is that's simple to do. Have someone who runs the board talk to me in private and I can give them the steps of what to provide and to who.

I would suspect that would end all of this, right?

Now, I don't know about all the back and forth, but if someone gave you a felony amount check,(150.00 or greater) you don't have to prove or disprove anything. You have, in your posession, or have since turned it over to the state, the instrument. All the back and forth isn't needed. She must answer to the check, and in the end your entitled to other damages which will be afforded you in a restitution hearing.


Joe

As stated earlier I will be going to the SO to clear this up, but I have things I am busy with currently and have spoked to the Sgt. on the case about when I will be there.

The problem is Renee took a check from Kira Espana Cantillo in my name. She accepted a check from someone other than the checkholder. She accepted a stolen check and Kira by giving her that check passed along a stolen item and stole Renee's reptiles.

I will not be taking the fall for Kira on this!

 

[Handoff]

It came back as Account closed.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

The problem is Renee took a check from Kira Espana Cantillo in my name. She accepted a check from someone other than the checkholder. She accepted a stolen check and Kira by giving her that check passed along a stolen item and stole Renee's reptiles.

I will not be taking the fall for Kira on this!

Ok. But Renee took down your DL # and it matches the state's record for YOUR name.

So the problem here is how did Renee get your DL#, because it wouldn't have been the same # on another person's DL, or did Kira or whoever steal your DL, have her photo put on it?

Not making a lot of sense here, but I'm willing to hear the explanation of that.

 

[candace313]

Why would she have your drivers license with an clear picture of her/you on it? BTW, I spoke to SR SO they did not have any "Deal" other than to turn yourself in.

Why did you take a check from someone with a different name than what was on the check you accepted?

I spoke to the Sgt on the case and yes I will have to in and out.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

Candace, the only way I see you getting out of this is pretty simple.

If YOU didn't write the check out, let's put aside the fact she got a matching DL# which matches you, and she can pick you out of a photo lineup. Let's even put those two very serious problems for you aside.

If you claim the check was stolen, then whoever filled it out and signed it won't match handwriting analysis.

If you claim to be innocent of this felony charge against you, you need to get some cleared checks out, and go to the SA office and file a sworn complaint against whoever it is YOU think stole your check, and offer them a sample of a check that you did write and sign for them to compare.

Whether or not they take you into custody, who knows. Sheriff's don't usually hang out at the SA's office.

That's your only way out of this.

 

[candace313]

Ok. But Renee took down your DL # and it matches the state's record for YOUR name.

So the problem here is how did Renee get your DL#, because it wouldn't have been the same # on another person's DL, or did Kira or whoever steal your DL, have her photo put on it?

Not making a lot of sense here, but I'm willing to hear the explanation of that.

From my knowledge Kira does not have a copy of my DL. I have lost my DL before and gotten a replacement, but it was lost before she moved out.

I do not know how my DL# was on the check.

 

[varnyard]

Why did you take a check from someone with a different name than what was on the check you accepted?

I spoke to the Sgt on the case and yes I will have to in and out.

Why did you lie to me?

 

[Handoff]

I know a LOT of people that go by one name but has a "legal" name. That was not out of the ordinary. Besides, the picture was a match! Please explain why you had no problem talking to Bobby about this in his yard? Or did you not see that question.

 

[Michael Brown]

As stated earlier I will be going to the SO to clear this up, but I have things I am busy with currently and have spoked to the Sgt. on the case about when I will be there.

The problem is Renee took a check from Kira Espana Cantillo in my name. She accepted a check from someone other than the checkholder. She accepted a stolen check and Kira by giving her that check passed along a stolen item and stole Renee's reptiles.

I will not be taking the fall for Kira on this!

The way she does'nt flat out say " Kira " is beyond suspect. But then again we are dealing with one of the strangest BOI I've seen.

Also you really have to wonder why she is still here... why is she still talking to us and digging her self a bigger hole. You almost have to think she honestly believes she's in the right.

or

She believes she can somehow move the BOI audience. Either way

 

[Joe Barnhart]

If she didn't write the check, that's simple enough to prove. Find two checks that you succesfully wrote (don't take them any bounced ones, lol), and tell them that the warrant against you is for a stolen check, this is the name of the person who stole it, etc.

Give them two samples for them to compare agains the check the felony warrant is issued on so they can compare it. If that part is truthful, you still have a couple of hurdles to overcome but the only way you are going to prove you didn't write that check, which is what you claim, is to have it analyzed against a couple that you did write. Simple stuff.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

The way she does'nt flat out say " Kira " is beyond suspect. But then again we are dealing with one of the strangest BOI I've seen.

Also you really have to wonder why she is still here... why is she still talking to us and digging her self a bigger hole. You almost have to think she honestly believes she's in the right.

or

She believes she can somehow move the BOI audience. Either way

Yea, I agree. The only way I would consider anything she has to say is when I see the charges have been dismissed.

Her hurdles are going to be why did she let this drag on so long. Once she learned a check was written (and stolen according to her) why did she not report it.

First thing she needs to do is stop typing and go turn herself in with proof the she didn't write the check. That's step one.

The warrant isn't going anywhere.

 

[pakinjak]

But then again, if she DID write the check, I guess you'd get the dog and pony show that's been making my email ping go off every two minutes for the past few days...

every claim to something that can't be proven is evidence against her, IMO.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

Did any of the people who checked on this warrant ask what the bond was on it? Is it a no-bond warrant? No bond means she has to see a judge the next morning usually within 24 hours or (first appearance). If a bond is set, then as she says "in and out".

You aren't walking away from a Sgt with the sheriff's office with a felony warrant my dear, lol you will go to jail. If a bond is attached to the warrant, it's possible they might let you sit up front (never dress you in jail blues), but that's it. If you don't have a bondsman on the way you will spend the night. There are no deals, there are no "in and outs" on a felony warrant.

If you are truly innocent what you need to do is go take care of your warrant, then come back and show all of us you got the case dismissed. Until you do that, I believe everyone here has had enough. There's nothing to discuss. You or (as you claim) someone else stole and wrote a check on your account. You have a warrant because of it.

Go take care of your life then come back and prove all of us wrong. Won't that feel good?

 

[Lucille]

There is also the matter of Candace lying to Bobby.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

But then again, if she DID write the check, I guess you'd get the dog and pony show that's been making my email ping go off every two minutes for the past few days...

every claim to something that can't be proven is evidence against her, IMO.

Exactly!

My guess is she did write the check. I know that as soon as I found out I had a warrant and I knew I was innocent I'd go prove my innocence. If what she says is true that won't be too difficult. She can easily provide samples of her handwriting or other checks (even better).

Renee doesn't have to prove anything. Unfortunately the burden of proof is on Candace as she's claiming innocence but has let so much time go by and done nothing about her "stolen" check. Ok.

 

[varnyard]

No answer to that simple question Candace? I will tell you what, post your picture and we can confirm if it is you. I know what you look like, it was not your so-called roommate that came here.

If there is a roommate at all, we have no proof that you ever had this so-called roommate at all.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

There is also the matter of Candace lying to Bobby.

Right. Plus why would anyone who comes into knowledge that a check was stolen and written, would not report it. I'd have been on that like a fly on well you know what.

Then a warrant comes out (this all takes time), and still doesn't do anything about it?

And still even after coming here, still doesn't go take care of the "false" warrant so to speak or finally report the stolen check

 

[Joe Barnhart]

No answer to that simple question Candace? I will tell you what, post your picture and we can confirm if it is you. I know what you look like, it was not your so-called roommate that came here.

If there is a roommate at all, we have no proof that you ever had this so-called roommate at all.

And thus, that's why they issued a warrant in her name. They don't issue them without probable cause. In a check case that requires positive ID by the receiver of the instrument. This is done by getting their DL# which Renee was smart enough to do, and ID by lineup.

She's defenseless until we see the charge is dismissed.

 

[Joe Barnhart]

Candace:

What is the case # of your stolen check? YOU did report a check was stolen right?

You did notify the police of this rather significant fact right? You've known about this for how long now?

What's the police report (case #) of the stolen check written to Renee?