Has any one done bussiness w/ Bob Sloan - Del Rio,Tx.

[homegrownherps]

"crackhead" Bob Sloan aka: Michael Duckworth has been quite for the past few months ...its about time for him to surface and show his ugly head agian.

 

[angelrose]

Bob Sloan
1244 Hazelwood St. #104
St. Paul, MN 55106

phone # 1-651-414-9755

he is at it again

 

[homegrownherps]

Actually ..when he uses the MN. address, he is Michael Duckworth.
When he uses the TX. address, he uses the name Bob Sloan.

Sloan claims he is not Duckworth and visa versa.....but he has been caught in way to many lies for that to even be close to the truth.

Anything spewed by either of them is BS.

 

[Ken Harbart]

Sloan's used a plethora of pseudonyms. Like the career criminal that he is, he has all of his aliases lined up and ready for use. For a bit, I surmised that he might have multiple personality disorder, but then noted that he's the same one trick pony no matter what name he hides behind.

 

[kylemillsap]

His new name is Josh Sawyer.

 

[jeff_fox]

FYI

Sloan is in St. Paul during the winter months where he is apparently a session guitarist for a record label. He spends June-August in Del Rio. Josh Sawyer is a student at Sul Ross and rents Sloan's house in Del Rio during the school year. I've met both of them and they are two different people. Josh in much younger. They both have heloderms and a lot of them. I saw probably 50-75 of them. Now I don't know one heloderm from another, but they had what looked like retics, bandeds and beadeds based on size. I did not even know that beadeds even got to be almost 4' ! The beadeds all looked different with some being almost toally black and somne like the retic gilas and then there was one that was mostly black with double tail rings - weird. Not sure if they were trying to rip you off, but they had a lot of gilas and beadeds. I also know Sloan got a permit to collect Mexico and brought back a haul of montane rattlers, alterna and heloderms. They had rattlers I'd never seen or heard of. Last time I saw Josh was in August on the Juno road collecting.

 

[hhmoore]

"Mr Foxeworthy",
I'm going to give you an opportunity to show me that you are not posting under a false name. If you fail to do so, your account will be banned & all of your posts will be removed.
The clock starts ticking....now.

 

[hhmoore]

I changed my mind - I don't have time to play games like that today.
IF you can prove that you really are Jeff Foxeworthy, contact the site administrator (sorry, Rich). I will personally reverse your ban, with a public apology, as soon as I receive confirmation from him.
In the meantime......goodbye.

 

[Tim Cole]

Sloan is in St. Paul during the winter months where he is apparently a session guitarist for a record label. He spends June-August in Del Rio. Josh Sawyer is a student at Sul Ross and rents Sloan's house in Del Rio during the school year. I've met both of them and they are two different people. Josh in much younger. They both have heloderms and a lot of them. I saw probably 50-75 of them. Now I don't know one heloderm from another, but they had what looked like retics, bandeds and beadeds based on size. I did not even know that beadeds even got to be almost 4' ! The beadeds all looked different with some being almost toally black and somne like the retic gilas and then there was one that was mostly black with double tail rings - weird. Not sure if they were trying to rip you off, but they had a lot of gilas and beadeds. I also know Sloan got a permit to collect Mexico and brought back a haul of montane rattlers, alterna and heloderms. They had rattlers I'd never seen or heard of. Last time I saw Josh was in August on the Juno road collecting.

I see lots of questionable info in this "story". Sloan doesn't own a house but lives in a small trailer. Very few people have legal permits to hunt and export from Mexico. I know of 3 persons all associated with zoos or academics of which Sloan is neither. It's illegal to road hunt in Texas without special permits.

 

[LBenton]

I see lots of questionable info in this "story". Sloan doesn't own a house but lives in a small trailer. Very few people have legal permits to hunt and export from Mexico. I know of 3 persons all associated with zoos or academics of which Sloan is neither. It's illegal to road hunt in Texas without special permits.

As far as I know nobody has a permit to collect Mexico for any commercial reason at all, not even for "private breeding stock". In fact they regulate their permits in great detail. For example if your permit states you will be breeding the specimens for any reason you tend to get a much lower bag limit for the year than somebody that will either pickle them or just do a study on that living wc animal. And if you do breed them and sell those babies to the public with a permit that does not have a breeding program attached to the request you will quickly loose any future prospects for permits with Mexico. And to get a permit it takes two very important parts.... First you have to be a recognized institution of some kind like a College, Zoo, or some other public, scientific or educational institution (not just a person). And second you need a sponsor from some recognized institution in Mexico to back your permit up.

Simple fact, there is no way Bob Sloan has or will ever get a permit of any kind for Mexico. In fact I would be amazed if he could make it back out of Mexico without the help of the consulate and some lawyers because his "funny business" and the violent threats he is known to make would land in big trouble fast down that way. As for any permit in TX, with his legal history and reputation that would never happen either... if somebody for some reason added his name to their up and running permit, it would certainly bring them a lot of negative attention and most likely bring an end to that permit by TP&W.

As for this Sul Ross person, I would say that proof would be easy. Even a valid email from this person with a @sulross.edu domain name would be an impressive statement since this “person” is a partner of sorts with Bob Sloan and I expect the “person” is just his alias. But in my firm opinion any person (if he does indeed turn out to be a person) that attaches their name to Bob Sloan in the herp community is more than likely a very poor choice to try and do any business with.

 

[Tim Cole]

Simple fact, there is no way Bob Sloan has or will ever get a permit of any kind for Mexico. In fact I would be amazed if he could make it back out of Mexico without the help of the consulate and some lawyers because his "funny business" and the violent threats he is known to make would land in big trouble fast down that way. As for any permit in TX, with his legal history and reputation that would never happen either... if somebody for some reason added his name to their up and running permit, it would certainly bring them a lot of negative attention and most likely bring an end to that permit by TP&W.

Lance,
I think you are forgetting who Bob is working for! Who bails out Bob everytime he gets jailed for traffic offenses and similar minor infractions.

 

[LBenton]

Lance,
I think you are forgetting who Bob is working for! Who bails out Bob everytime he gets jailed for traffic offenses and similar minor infractions.

I have a good idea of what you are getting at, I just have no idea how anybody would back him up.

 

[lanceheads]

Sloan is in St. Paul during the winter months where he is apparently a session guitarist for a record label. He spends June-August in Del Rio. Josh Sawyer is a student at Sul Ross and rents Sloan's house in Del Rio during the school year. I've met both of them and they are two different people. Josh in much younger. They both have heloderms and a lot of them. I saw probably 50-75 of them. Now I don't know one heloderm from another, but they had what looked like retics, bandeds and beadeds based on size. I did not even know that beadeds even got to be almost 4' ! The beadeds all looked different with some being almost toally black and somne like the retic gilas and then there was one that was mostly black with double tail rings - weird. Not sure if they were trying to rip you off, but they had a lot of gilas and beadeds. I also know Sloan got a permit to collect Mexico and brought back a haul of montane rattlers, alterna and heloderms. They had rattlers I'd never seen or heard of. Last time I saw Josh was in August on the Juno road collecting.

These are the things that make me go hmmmm.
Wonder if any of Ray's snakes ended up at Sloans?


Randal Berry

 

[LBenton]

These are the things that make me go hmmmm.
Wonder if any of Ray's snakes ended up at Sloans?


Randal Berry

Sul Ross is in Alpine TX... and Bob as far as I know is not held down by any kind of 9 to 5 and could be there in just a few hours from Del Rio. It is worth wondering about.

 

[Tim Cole]

These are the things that make me go hmmmm.
Wonder if any of Ray's snakes ended up at Sloans?


Randal Berry

You are not the only one from what I have heard.

 

[kylemillsap]

I spoke with Ray. You definitely are not the only one.
When I was dealing with Josh, he mentioned the theft 5 or 6 times.

 

[kylemillsap]

These are emails where Josh is telling me about his H.h.charlesbogerti. They are cites 1
and not legal to own , much less sell. He claims to have 5 female breeders.
He also told me he hatches them out in November. Not.



We sold them two years ago in Hamburg, Germany

Almost all of our hots go to Hamburg


---- kyle millsap <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'll call and send an email after I send the money. Did you sell all the bogert babies from this year? I really want some.
>
> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Re:
> To: "kyle millsap" <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
>
> We should have some. They are not as reliable as the others though.Not sure the exact numbers but I know we have 5 breeders fems.
>
> Let me know if you send the $1800 Monday so I can be here to receive it Wednesday.
>
>
> ---- kyle millsap <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Are you going to produce more charlesbogerti next year. How many adult bogerti do you have?
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re:
> > To: "kyle millsap" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 11:01 AM
> >
> > Early November.....

 

[kylemillsap]

By the way , Josh sounds like a 60 year old guy, at least. And NOBODY gets permits to collect charlesbogerti. Yet he claims to breed and sell them!

 

[LBenton]

By the way , Josh sounds like a 60 year old guy, at least. And NOBODY gets permits to collect charlesbogerti. Yet he claims to breed and sell them!

So Josh is an older (like maybe 60) student at Sul Ross into rare high end hot herps and he knows Jeff Foxworthy. Interesting how nobody seems to know the guy

 

[MiIguanaLvr]

Well , I guess I sorta dodged the bull with this guy, I didn't lose anything but I guess I will still have to deal with his dumb .

Need some input ;
He sent me a snake (that is supposed to be delivered sometime today 7-11-07) he sent it w/o getting a confirmation from to to ship. He sent it C.O.D. (it was to be part of a trade for some of my stock). I don't want this snake as I don't want to deal with this guy. I am already starting to build a nice little collection of threatening/bully emails from him.

Anyway, I will have to pay for this snake to complete the delivery, I don't want to refuse it because I am sure the snake would not survive the return trip. What I plan to do,is accept the box and ship the snake back on my regular shipping day next week. Also there is to be a $50.00 M.O. in the box as part of the trade, I planned to use it to cover the cost of shipping back to him. And he has already stated the he would refuse shipment if I sent his snake back.

I don't want the snake to suffer from his stupidity.

Can you just sell the snake to someone decent and then send him the money for it? That way the snake gets a good home and does not have to go back to the that is Bob Sloan