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Has any one heard of the 4h club???

crimsonexotics said:
I have a person claiming to be one of the "leaders" of the 4h club, has any one heard of or done business with them?
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I've heard of them, they're pretty active in our area as a youth group teaching agriculture and farm animal care. My suggestion to you would be to look up their web site for contact information, and verify that the person in contact with you is in fact affiliated with them before doing business. Is this person trying to buy or sell? And what? Is it for the organization? I've never heard of them dealing with herps, but that doesn't mean they don't. Any more information would be helpful.
 
http://www.fourhcouncil.edu/

That's their main web address. If you know the city or county that she claims to be with, you can do a search for that locality and get their individual web site. What is she purchasing these animals for? Is she trying to get a discount, saying they're for the organization? If so, I'd definately do some homework before selling her at a reduced price.
 
There are a LOT of smaller 4H groups that don't have websites or anything like that. There can be many "leaders" in every county, and some are group leaders, and some are county "project leaders". I was the dog project leader in my county for many years.
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
*scratches head*

I'm curious why this was brought to the BOI.

4-H is like the girl/boy scouts.
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It seems he wasn't familiar with the organization. And in a way, it's good he did look into this, especially if they were looking into discounted animals (which he hasn't answered that question yet). It's sad to say, but people could easily pose as someone from any group to get this kind of deal, and be no way affiliated with the organization they claim to be buying for. If the buyer is just paying regular price, maybe looking into it was a bit much. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Remember what's-his-face a few weeks back, collecting morphs for his rehab kids to breed?
 
4H is not much of a presence in bigger cities.

You find it quite active in rural and farming communities.

It's a generally well respected organization that has no real public problems with how it is seen or what it does.

IF the guy is legit, then it's a good way to help out the community.
 
You know what's funny about this coming up now? I was just discussing with my mother (whom was a 4-H leader & takes care of the county's Entomology club now) about starting a 4-H Reptile & Amphibian club because none exist & I feel it would benefit the younger generation. I'm currently in the process of negotiations with the head of our area. Keep your fingers crossed for me. :) You may see my work in your county 4-H halls!
 
My experiences with 4-H have been great. They taught me how to do stuff I never knew..As for Reptiles in 4-H I have never heard of them doing anything with Reptiles...
 
Its OK guys she has blocked me from sending her anymore E-mails so I guess she was a fake and apparently frequents this site because she sent me a nasty E-mail just before she blocked me. So thank you all for your help and if any one gets a response from a Monica Messeroll be careful.
 
And give us more details on the transaction? Was she just looking to buy straight out? Did she want a discount, or free things, and asking you to write off the loss on your taxes? If you still have them, could you post all emails exchanged between the two of you?
 
Give me some time to get them, she did not want a discount I don't think just to buy them straight out, so I don't understand why pose as some one you're not? I will post all mails between us soon. Thank you.
 
That is just weird. I have never heard of 4-H doing reptiles. I didn't even know they did things with dogs, either. It would be neat to see a 4-H reptile group start up, though.
I don't get why she would try to pose as a rep from them. Unless she has something to hide there wouldn't be much reason, which is what this is beginning to look like.
 
4H really does a huge variety of things.....the agricultural aspect is what most folks think of, but they also do art, photography, fashion, you name it. We had a very good sized group that attended my weekly dog obedience and jr showmanship classes. I have never, however, heard of them having any kind of a reptile program, but they COULD use them as an animal husbandry type of project. My daughter did a whole project documenting the entire life cycle of African Geese several years ago, from an adult pair, to eggs, to incubation, to babies, to adults....using reptiles would be a neat way to do a similar project.

I still don't understand why the lady even mentioned 4H if she wasn't looking for a discount or something, unless it was just to perhaps tell you that she was into the "education" aspect of the animals.....I dunno. Weird.
 
darkbloodwyvern said:
That is just weird. I have never heard of 4-H doing reptiles. I didn't even know they did things with dogs, either. It would be neat to see a 4-H reptile group start up.
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Cat_72 said:
I have never, however, heard of them having any kind of a reptile program, but they COULD use them as an animal husbandry type of project.
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They currently don't. Which is why I'm speaking to the head of our county to get things rolling. Yearly work books will need made up, projects, etc. If it's successful here, it's possible it will spread across the country. I will post details when I have more information. :)

Our county has the usual Horse, Goat, Cattle clubs...But also an Entomology (bugs), Rabbit / Sm Animal & Back Packing clubs.
 
cool

sounds like it is high time for it, Triple. You will definatelt have to post and news about that, I'd love to help the local 4-H with something like that. :D
 
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