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If I had only checked out the posts about her on here before buying, I would have never sent her the money!! Anyway, I sent Angela a money order for 7 baby ball pythons, well, this was last week. She should have had the animals to me last week, but didn't. She said that she would get them out on Monday or Tuesday of this week and would send me the tracking number, still nothing! She hasn't replied to my last e-mails. I asked her to PLEASE send them out on Monday so I would recieve them on Tuesday because my 3 year old cousin is in Children's Hospital in ICU, he's in really bad shape and I needed to be with him on Wednesday. Well, here is her reply:



Subj: Re: Could you please ship today?
Date: 5/13/02 6:45:47 PM !!!First Boot!!!
From:    [email protected] (Angela Fletcher)
Reply-to: [email protected]
To:    [email protected]

unfortunately it is going to be tomorrow before i can get them shipped as because of loosing a filling last night and seeing my dentist this morning i now have to have oral surgery this afternoon.  They will go out however tomorrow and i will email you a tracking number as soon as they give it to me. once again sorry for any inconvenience but i did not plan on the oral surgery.


Now she isn't returning my e-mails. Grrr! I have to say, I have been buying reptiles off of Kingsnake.com for quite a while, and I have , for the most part, been pleased with almost everyone that I had delt with. I have even delt with the "small" guys that haven't built a name for themselves yet, and everyone has been great, but so far this deal is leaving a bad taste! If she does come through, I will gladly let everyone know, but I am seriously having my doubts. I just wanted to let you guys know about my headache with her and let you guys decide for yourselves if you want to deal with her. I have already filled out numerous reports for fraud, but I am giving her until Thursday to either send me the snakes or send me a refund. Is their any other reports that I could consider? My sister and her husband live in IL, I guess that I could always get the cops and investigators up there involved. I really started getting edgy when she never sent me her phone number after several requests, and she never told me which carrier she used. I know, I should have asked those questions before hand, and if she couldn't tell me, then I should have avoided the deal, but with the problem with my cousin, it totally slipped my mind. Anyway, if she comes through, I will let everyone know, but until then, you guys can draw your own conclusions.

Christy Grayson
 
Sorry to hear you are having such a hard time. I placed an order for 10 baby balls and sent in a deposit of around 20%. I started getting this nagging little feeling not to send the remaining balance so I did not. Thats about the time everyone started saying how many problems they were having. From what I have found noone has anything positive to say. Their reputation is off to a rocky start for sure.
Sacha Skaggs
 
Well, like Ive stated MANY times, how you start off will dictate how well you'll do in the long run. Now Im curious:

1) As she made contact yet ? If not, even if she does make good, its still poor business.

2) Someone was supposed to do a trade with them for a game system. They also claimed how confident he was on his deal with them. My question is: Its been almost a week now, have you completed your trade ? Were you happy ?

3) Daniel, did they EVER give you a way to contact them ?

4) They stated they would list their phone number the last time they responded here ? Why havent they ? Its been almost a whole week.

Im still not 100% for sure that their bad JUST yet. But again, their not looking good either. Im, at least, at a point that any excuse will fall short in my book (I bought the first ones) . But that's me. I hope you get your animals soon, I hope their as nice and healthy as they claim and I hope your cousin gets well soon.

Joe Dembinski

Dembinski Reptile's
 
Sacha ,
I'm glad that you got a bad feeling about it and backed out, looks like your instincts paid off! She still hasn't e-mailed me back...bad business! If she hasn't contacted me by 11<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0p.m., I am sending in all of the reports and complaints. I sent her my phone number, so there is no excuse for her not contacting me. Does anybody know how I can track down her phone number? I have her address.

Angela Fletcher
115 East Main Street Apt. #8
Havana, IL 62644

Also, does anyone know the phone # of the IL police dept.? My sister will be going back to IL in about 2 weeks, but I really would like to get the police dept. phone number before that. I guess I should have known that the prices were too good to be true, that should have been a big red flag! Alot of you guys say that she never returned e-mails, she returned mine, and told me that she had the animals, gave me a total for the quantity I ordered and sent her address. I thought all was good. I had no reason to suspect that she was going to turn out to be a real pain! After I kept asking about when she would get the snakes sent out, she stopped e-mailing me. Then I come to this forum and look her up and see all of the things that some of you had to say about her, then that's when I got really edgy. Maybe if so much hadn't been going on, I would have thought more clearly before sending her the money for the snakes. If she doesn't come through, I will make sure everyone knows about her! Until she comes through, everyone beware! I don't want you guys to have the headache that I have had with her! I will know for now on to come here first and ask around, this is a great forum and I think Kingsnake should have one as well!
 
Christy....After your post, you got me curious, so I just called the IL information for the numbers you're looking for....well, there is NO number for the name and address you gave....but... the number for the Havana, IL Police Department is: 1-309-343-3321

Good luck .....Neil
 
Neil,
Thanks a million for that phone number! I will give them a call and see what can be done. It's really fishy that she doesn't have a phone number and that she never posted it like she said she would at the other thread. We know that she obviously has access to someone's phoneline or she wouldn't be online. I'm curious to know if the person ever traded his game system for the snakes, or did he get burned. Who knows, it could be Angela trying to make herself look good by posting under a different name. From what I remember, the guy was able to contact her on the phone....odd! When she was communicating, she brushed off my many requests for her phone number. I seriously doubt that she has the animals that she claims to have.
 
this is the guy that traded them the game systems,,,i too was supposed to recieve my snakes on tuesday,,,but i didnt!! HOWEVER,, i just talked to Angelas fiancee about an hour ago,,,and he told me that they were having some personal problems,,BUT,, he asked me to come on this page and le everyone know that all the snakes are being shipped as we speak!!! Now remember,,i am just relaying a message,,i am waiting on snakes just like everyone else is,,,but he ASSURED me that all orders are going out tonight for tommorrow delivery!!!!  i hoe all goes well!!!  Jeff Lewis
 
Joe and the rest,

Don't recall having ever seen her complete info. I honestly hope they prove me wrong but as I stated in a previous post, too many red flags right from the start.

Best regards

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This is from other post regarding Have-a-herp
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">for all those interested my email addy is [email protected] . As long as your email does not contain a part two I will answer your questions  etc.
My addy is
Angela Fletcher
115 East Main Street Apt. # 8
Havana, IL 62644
I am switching my phone service provider (which is supposed to be done by this evening) and as soon as this is done I will post my number on here and in my ads.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Thought that she supposed to post her phone number as promised.

First, couldn't check email because afraid of floating virus
Now, couldn't ship because of personal problem
What will be the next excuse???

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this is the guy that traded them the game systems,,,i too was supposed to recieve my snakes on tuesday,,,but i didnt!! HOWEVER,, i just talked to Angelas fiancee about an hour ago,,,and he told me that they were having some personal problems,,BUT,, he asked me to come on this page and le everyone know that all the snakes are being shipped as we speak!!! Now remember,,i am just relaying a message,,i am waiting on snakes just like everyone else is,,,but he ASSURED me that all orders are going out tonight for tommorrow delivery!!!!  i hoe all goes well!!!  Jeff Lewis</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

To "Mighty" Jeff "Have-alot-of-Money", the only Have-a-herp's reference, the only one who can speak personally to "Angelas fiancee",
Don't you think it's about time for you to posted her phone number so that everyone who had dealt with her can contact her? (Since Angela and her fiancee were having some personal problems so that they "probably" can't post their phone number) <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
 
maybe jeff could email you and give you the number he is using...after all your all in the same boat right?
 
the only ## that i have for them is a cell phone number,,and when i call it,, it says the customer is unavailable,,so there is no need to give it out!!! when he called me this evening,,he said that all the orders were going out today for tommorrow,,and would i please write that on fauna!!! he was supposed to e-mail me the tracking ##,,but he has yet to do so!!! i would not think that someone would want their name dragged through the mud and get a visit from the cops,,but who knows,,,i was only relaying a message!!!! i hope that he is a man of his word,, or else i will have to eat some crow!!! but if i was gonna rip somebody off,,,once i recieved their $$$,,i would not bother to keep making excuses,,,so i hope that they are in fact doing what tey said they would!!!!! JUST GOT A MESSAGE ON MY CELL PHONE FROM HIM WITH A TRACKING NUMBER  SO IM GONNA CHECK IT OUT AND I WILL LET YALL KNOW
 Jeff Lewis
 
Jeff,

What carrier are they using?

Regards,  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
 
The personal problems are just another excuse. I am tired of all of the excuses and I have NO REASON to believe that the snakes will be here tomorrow, after all, I have been repeatedly lied to by her and I'm not believing another word. Why couldn't she at least call me and give me a tracking number??? Or did her fingers all fall off and she can't dial or type a freakin' e-mail? And I will not believe for one second that the reason she didn't call is because her phone got cut off. This world is full of phones, she could have easily have gone to a neighbors house and call. Anyway, I e-mailed her and told her that I would give her until 11<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 p.m. and then I would be sending in the complaints and fraud reports, the deadline has passed and the reports are being filed. I contacted the Havana IL Police Dept. and gave them the info and did a report. They told me to contact them again tomorrow if the snakes didn't show up and the report would be filed and she WILL be getting a visit from them. I was informed that she could get some serious jail time out of this. Another source informed me that she could have her computer taken away and any other materials used to scam people on the internet. The fallowing was taken from the kingsnake rip off forum:
Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL OFFENSE and there are lots of people in PRISON for committing MAIL FRAUD.

I am going to the post office tomorrow to fill out a mail fraud report. I don't care what kind of problems she is having (I seriously believe the only problems she has is all in her head), it's terrible buisness practice to repeatedly lie to someone. She knew that I needed to be with my cousin on Wednesday, the kid is at death's door but still she lied to me telling me that she couldn't get the animals out on Monday, they would go out Tuesday and be here Wednesday. I had to reschedule my trip to the Childrens hospital so I would be here to recieve the snakes, but guess what?? I waited here for NOTHING! I am beyond pissed, she could have at least told me that she had no intentions of sending the animals, at least I could have been with my cousin today instead of waiting here for imaginary snakes. Truely heartless! I am sick of all the games. I know it was a typo on her part (then again, maybe not), but did anyone notice the e-mail that she posted in one of the other threads? [email protected] ...notice the word "fake". If by some miracle the animals do show up as Jeff said they would, I will let everyone know, but I seriously doubt it. It's kind of odd that Jeff was able to get their number but she refuses to give it to anyone else. Maybe Jeff is the only one she plans on coming through for, why? Who knows. It's also kind of odd she has sold so many baby balls but nobody has came forth to tell how the deal went or to defend her. It's ok though, the police know where she is, and now the FBI, Better Business Bureau, and Kingsnake abuse know all about her and tomorrow, I will be filling out a report for mail fraud. To anyone else that has been burned by her, you should do the same. Don't believe any more of her lies! We don't need people like her in the herp industry.
 
Christy and Jeff,

Chirsty I am really sorry to hear what you are going through. Hopefully everything will turn out for the best. Let's hope that you get the pythons today, but at this point I doubt it. Please keep us posted.

Jeff, please let us know as soon as the UPS package arrives.

Best regards,  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
 
Christy,,i am sorry you have been going through this,,i dont know what to say,,i hope you get your snakes today!!! as for my package,,,,the ups website says that my shipment is out for delivery! i will let you all know when they get here and how they arrived!!!!Christy,,i e-mail them last night and told them that some people were planning on getting the authorities involved,,,so i do hope for their sake that you get them today!!
 PEACE
 Jeff Lewis
 
Just wanted to let everyone know that i just recieved my snakes and they are GREAT,, they look healthy and i did not see anything wrong with them((and believe me,,i always check)))  so i am very pleased with them,,it took a coupe of days longer than i had hoped,,, but i am satisfied!!!!!!  THANX TO AL AND ANGELA!!!!!!
 Jeff Lewis
 
Well, I paid for 12 snakes and have not even recieved a response in 2 days.  I've been very patient through the excuses and I'm starting to get agitated.  

Jason
 
sorry to interject, but that's why from now on... i'm only doing buying with good people, like Neil and Ben. I'm sure there are more... but these people i know for sure are awesome, in both sales and most importantly CUSTOMER SUPPORT!

David Doan
 
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