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Heavy parasite load found in ball python from Ed Clark

romad119 said:
Ed being quiet tips my views on him more and more. While Emily maybe presenting selctive info or drawing conclusions wrongly or without sufficient evidence, it is the only side we really have. Ed isn't providing anything. We can pick apart what Emily ahs posted but at least she has posted.

Ed's lack of resposne is more damning then anything anyone here types.
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No disrespect intended by this, but I have a couple of questions regarding these statements. If the original poster is presenting info selectively, drawing incorrect conclusions without sufficient evidence, and apparently doesn't know a whole lot about parasites to begin with.....then what other side do you need? What it is that Ed needs to provide to refute an accusation that is without evidence, based on poorly drawn conclusions, and presented using selective info? Honestly, why would anyone feel like they needed respond publicly to such a porous complaint? Maybe if she didn't come at him right out the gun with an ultimatum and then follow it up with a scarlet letter on the BOI he would have responded. If someone came at me like that I don't know how far it would get them.

Chris
 
Seamus Haley said:
Furthermore, after wandering into the Fauna chat on Parasite Gate: Day One and getting to see a few lines of what were clearly a calculated planning session outlining a strategy of attack- I'm personally convinced that Emily was strongly influenced by parties with an agenda into making her post.
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This isn't an attack--it's a warning and a heads up to Ed's customers. I have written all my posts myself and continue to do so--my goal is to educate anyone who received snakes from the same source as mine so that they aware that they should get those snakes tested for parasites. It's really quite simple--no strategy, hidden agenda or influence from some invisible party.

Seamus Haley said:
Now we have more than one person who's refferencing the email correspondance from Post Eleven of this thread and claiming that Ed's response was damning. Look back at that post, read the text of the email that was supposedly sent to Ed, then read his supposed response. Ed's response is clearly, without question, a response to a question asking if the animals sent were CB or not. A question that is never asked in the email that he was alledgedly responding to. It's a broken email chain, something is clearly missing and it's omission constitutes a blatant, bold faced LIE on the part of Emily or whoever is coaching her in her responses. "I sent this" "This was his response" when the response makes absolutely no sense in relation to the email he was supposedly responding to. Ed's response reads a lot more like it was issued as a reply to an email asking if the snakes in that sale were CB, CH or WC and, not remembering the specific sale, he replies that he'll need to check his records. Where in any of that is there guilt of wrongdoing?
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I pasted all of the correspondence between Ed and I here. His answer wasn't quite what I expected, but that's what is was, whether it makes sense or not. I didn't leave anything out, I didn't paste selectively--that's all that was said.

Seamus Haley said:
Anyone know for a fact how long the thread was when he first saw it or was informed that it existed?
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Ed responded to this thread in post 37, one hour and 40 minutes after I posted it.
 
Jbreddawg said:
Why do some people here think Emily has nothing better to do in life then make up a thread to attack Ed ? Whats the motive ? Why subject yourself to counter attacks ? Shes never asked for anything from the start. Why on earth would you want all this attention ? unless she did what she thinks is the right thing to do. Simply post her experiance on the BOI . I think she has all the rights in the world to do what she did .
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That's just it--I DON'T want this attention and being a part of this thread has me so stressed out that my jaw has been aching for days from me constantly grinding my teeth. I feel that the well-being of a lot of animals may depend on my making this information public, and regardless of how much I didn't want to start all this, my conscience screamed that it was the right thing to do.
 
jsrocket said:
Emily, go away. It is pretty obvious you are being "coached"
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Jim, go away. It is pretty obvious you need a coach.
 
Chris Olson said:
What it is that Ed needs to provideChris
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The origins of the animals he traded.
Were they in fact CBB holdback future breeders OR were they in fact CH imports.

Emily traded thinking she was getting CBB holdback future breeders.
Ed stated he needed to check his records to verify if that was what she got. Stalling tactic if you ask me.
Now Ed has ignored this and will not verify what animals he sent her.

Forget about the parasite issue for the time being.

The underlying issue which makes Ed look really bad is that he may have lied to Emily about the animals in order to make the trade.
 
jsrocket said:
Sorry, wrong thread. Drinkin with some pals
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Wrong thread.....Right name..........Total BS.

Go pass out in a corner instead of posting.
 
LMAO that is a lame comeback. You can never be my worst nightmare there Jim you have to be intimidating to me for starters. And slip up I will try hrd never to do just so morons like yourself could never throw a mistake in my face. :thumbsup:
 
jsrocket said:
Sammy, your "holier than thou" attitude is starting to get on my nerves.
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LOL...... Jim, maybe it is with yourself that your turmoil lies.
 
LOL I can see what would happen I mean do you actually believe in your mind that your words have any bearing on me or my actions. Your just full of empty words
 
Chris Olson said:
No disrespect intended by this, but I have a couple of questions regarding these statements. If the original poster is presenting info selectively, drawing incorrect conclusions without sufficient evidence, and apparently doesn't know a whole lot about parasites to begin with.....then what other side do you need? What it is that Ed needs to provide to refute an accusation that is without evidence, based on poorly drawn conclusions, and presented using selective info? Honestly, why would anyone feel like they needed respond publicly to such a porous complaint? Maybe if she didn't come at him right out the gun with an ultimatum and then follow it up with a scarlet letter on the BOI he would have responded. If someone came at me like that I don't know how far it would get them.

Chris
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Simple. She is providing info period. Nothing has come from Ed. If Ed isn't refuting any of her info then to me, by default, she is correct. Otherwise, I am sure Ed, who is not lost in the Congo and out of reach of a computer, would surely be making posts.

Instead he seems to be mimicking the proverbial ostrich with its head in the sand.
 
Serafim said:
LMAO that is a lame comeback. You can never be my worst nightmare there Jim you have to be intimidating to me for starters. And slip up I will try hrd never to do just so morons like yourself could never throw a mistake in my face. :thumbsup:
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That is the stupidest freakin retort I have ever heard.
 
Wow Did ya think that up all by your lonesome Jim or has the alcohol clouded that oh so brilliant mind. And it only stupid to you because you know its true. Your a moron with empty pathetic words.
 
ENOUGH ALREADY!!! Jim if you are drinking with your pals, please continue to do so with out posting on this thread while under the influence or at least do not try and lie about posting in the wrong thread....step away from the key board and go have some "what you call fun" with your friends.

John, please don't encourage any more bad behavior by by baiting Jim. He is impaired at the moment and I for one would like to see this thread actually stay on topic.

I am in a mood boyz, I have given you fair warning. Continue in this matter of banter and warning points may be issued.
 
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