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Heavy parasite load found in ball python from Ed Clark

Although I agree with many of your points Seamus, how can we just let this sink when the one in question has no concern over what he may have done? By his own admission, he ain't sure if he sent her the right animals. And after all this has taken place, what does the sorry SOB have to say???


Ed Clark said:
To everyone that has become obsessed with their anger, just chill! ;)

Smile and be happy. :thumbsup:
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Not an inkling of remorse. Not an apology one. No more assurance that he will look into whether he even sent the right animals. He just does not give a damn.

He's doing little more than riding it out and HOPING it will sink to the abyss. No different than breaking the law, and hiding your sorry ass until the statute of limitations passes by.

This was a perfectly fixable situation with just a couple honest answers needed. She did not ask for compensation, just clarification as to if she received the right animals, and to make others aware of her situation.

I for one am pissed. Pissed that he is being allowed to dodge and evade the issue at hand. Pissed that even with the issues that have recently arose, he's still here, happy as can be, advertising, and posting away........except where he should be posting that is.

He needs to man up and carry his own cross to his own Crucifixion. Plain and simple. Nobody did this to him, he did it to himself.


Rick
 
Okay, Ed...I've sat through this, and haven't said a whole lot. I don't give a crap about the parasite issue at this point, for reasons I stated early on....BUT, you told Emily at the start of all this that you didn't recall if the snakes you sent her were CBB or CH, and that you were going to check into it & get back to her. You've had plenty of time to sort it out - what did you send?
 
crotalusadamanteus said:
I for one am pissed. Pissed that he is being allowed to dodge and evade the issue at hand. Pissed that even with the issues that have recently arose, he's still here, happy as can be, advertising, and posting away........except where he should be posting that is.
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You can't force him to post though. Certainly can't force him to post the answers you want- at this point his second response was just taunting the people who wanted information.

Rich has booted or banned people in the past when they did something wrong but didn't violate the TOS; but it was generally when they directly wronged *him* and, traditionally, has been unwilling to boot people specifically because of their negative BOI threads. If you can convince him to throw Ed out, more power to you and I'd support the decision completely. Until he does though, I believe that the thread should be addressed with respect for the process, if not respect for the subject.

That means showing evidence of wrongdoing, opinions or assumptions that are drawn as conclusions should be noted as probable or likely rather than absolutes (speaking of, good catch Jim, I should not have used "all" in refference to the fence sitters- some have posted indicating that they aren't anymore so it was inaccurate), people should attempt an honest analysis of the facts in order to identify right from wrong, moral from immoral, truth from lies. Bad guy threads really do not benefit from off topic accusations of crossdressing or jedisexual role play, no matter how the accused set themselves up for it.
 
Seamus, so you think it is fine for Ed to post new ads and bump old ones. At the same time letting this thread die down and get burried?

Seamus, are you and Ed buds?
 
varnyard said:
Seamus, so you think it is fine for Ed to post new ads and bump old ones. At the same time letting this thread die down and get burried?

Seamus, are you and Ed buds?
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You didn't! :rofl: :rofl:


I don't think they are buds. I get what he's saying, but I feel slightly along the lines as you. If he is allowed to continue posting advertisements, then this issue should be allowed to stay at the front so his customers can read what he's about.
 
Ed has every right to post new ads and bump old ones.
As I've said before, while I think that he was wrong to cease communication with Emily after HE raised the concern over whether she got what she paid for, I fully understand him not posting in this thread (not saying I agree with it, just that I understand it). By the same token, coming in with a smiley and telling everybody to chill was stupid...having made the decision to stay out, he should have stuck with it.
 
critical bill said:
Lol. From two very different trees Bobby.
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I know this Chuck, Seamus is no friend of Ed, I was just being sarcastic.

However, I can't see letting Ed slip though the cracks, by letting this thread die.
 
varnyard said:
Seamus, so you think it is fine for Ed to post new ads and bump old ones. At the same time letting this thread die down and get burried?

Seamus, are you and Ed buds?
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Yes and no to the first question- that is to say that on the one hand, I'd like to see Ed out of this business completely since he does not comply with what I feel are honest practices. On the other hand, he's a member of the site who has paid for the ability to use the classified sections and has not been banned or prohibited from doing so by the site owner or moderation team. I think it's their call to make, not mine.

Obviously not to the second question- I just find myself defending a process and opposed to certain methods. The approaches taken at times in this thread are approaches I do not feel are appropriate at any time and would have come down against. I just have the crappy luck of watching it happen with someone who I have already written off as a bad guy.

If he is allowed to continue posting advertisements, then this issue should be allowed to stay at the front so his customers can read what he's about.
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And his potential customers can and should be taking some initiative to do their own searches. Given the basic premise of someone seeing an ad, being interested in doing business and doing a search- it won't matter if this thread is on page one or page ten; it has the latest responses and will be at the top of the list.

What page one does for a thread is generate a bit more attention from potential participants and readers who are not actively searching for a specific subject. In that respect, bumping this thread specifically with the intention of keeping it at the top of the list is something of a disservice to people who's topics are being pushed onto page two, people who's issues might see some kind of resolution if it gets talked out. I may not be explaining the distinction I see between the two situations correctly... if it still makes no sense, I could try explaining it again, or just figure that you disagree and drop it.
 
Seamus Haley said:
I may not be explaining the distinction I see between the two situations correctly... if it still makes no sense, I could try explaining it again, or just figure that you disagree and drop it.
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Actually, I think that you've done a fine job conveying your intent. I'm sure that there are a few people who will disagree, but such is the nature of forums. Some people will have a well thought out, logical position on a subject, whereas others will base their opinions on emotion, or what they feel best serves their personal interest...but you already know what I mean. ;)
 
I have a total of 6 offices throughout Central Illinois. Of which, two offices are within 10 miles of my home. Some days I go to one while other days I am at the second. I pay for garbage disposal at both places so really felt no need to pay for it at my home. So, after receiving permission from our collector, I was allowed to bring my garbage from home to either of my offices since the collector represents both.

I also have a 2 year old who is not potty trained as well as an 8 month old. There are times when I wake up in the middle of the night and can smell, without even getting out of my bed, that my 2 year old needs changed. After collecting a weeks worth of garbage in my garage, so that I can bring it to my office, you can imagine how incredibly putrid the smell of those diapers are.

Here's my point. We've already shown how Ed is simply the human version of a very putrid stinky diaper, albeit a diaper that has the capacity to steal. Anyways, we can keep piling more garbage on top of Ed but his stink really won't ever go away. It's who he is. It's what he is.

So, instead of continually posting nonsense on this thread, why not let Ed continue to ripen, like a putrid stinky dirty diaper will, all on his own. Nobody here has added any nails into Ed's coffin. Those nails were put in place by Ed himself and he will continue to do so without our help. New classifieds or not, Ed's history has been so ingrained in most of our heads that we won't let people forget. And, as the saying goes, this thread is here to stay.

Griz
 
No additional explanation needed Seamus. I got you the first time, I just feel slightly different. But I understand completely, and agree with most of your post. Especially the pictures. Amusing, but seriously distracting from the issue being dealt with.

Bob, excellent post. Makes perfect sense.
 
How does this guy's member profile have a 100% feedback? Seems terribly wrong. Makes me question faunaclassified's ratings. Back to BP.net with me.
 
because the people that have chosen to utilize the trader rating/feedback have been happy with what they received...have fun over there :thumbsup:
 
ChroniclesofYarnia said:
How does this guy's member profile have a 100% feedback? Seems terribly wrong. Makes me question faunaclassified's ratings. Back to BP.net with me.
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His feedback has absolutely nothing to do with fauna in and of itself - It's people themselves, that he has done business with that leave the ratings - A bad guy thread does not change that - Don't question fauna classifieds ratings, or fauna in and of itself on your 2nd post here - Perhaps you need to learn what this forum is all about before you come on here criticising it...

Back to Bp.net with you...
 
ChroniclesofYarnia said:
Makes me question faunaclassified's ratings. Back to BP.net with me.
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Why? Your reasoning doesn't make any sense. Some who have had positive experiences with Ed have come down on him pretty hard in this thread. It doesn't change the fact that they still had a positive transaction with him in the past. If you have had a positive or negative experience you have the ability to participate in the trader rating system. What's there to question? It would be the same on any site that a rating is allowed.
Actually, It's a little better than most because you can't easily give yourself bogus trader ratings now that a verification (of sorts) is in place.
 
He got a postive rating from me a while back. Paid me promptly and all went smooth. Would I deal with him again? No. Not as a seller or a buyer. I no longer care for the way he handles himself.
Go back to BP.net. We won't miss you on Fauna.
 
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