Help identifying morph?

[Slashmaster]

I have a mystery snake that popped out of the egg (to me, at least).
I'm thinking enchi pastel but I'm not very sure? The head is weird.

Entire clutch

The one that is hiding is

Pairing is lemon pastel enchi x champagne ...
Female is the champagne and she was a virgin and was not paired with any other males.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

As soon as I saw it I was thinking fire, but obviously I don't know what I'm talking about

A quick google search of pastel enchi looks about right. Very nice blushing, congrats.

 

[Slashmaster]

It does kind of remind me of a vanilla cream. When my VC was a neonate it looked a lot like that.

The only thing is that the head doesn't match the famous enchi stamp. :X And it looks nothing like the father, which is a lemon pastel enchi with the famous head stamp.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Just doing some minor research, I think the only possible combos (assuming the genetics of the parents are a for sure) would be an enchi pastel or an enchi champagne. The pastel champagne wouldn't have a distinguishable pattern, but the enchi champagne does. It also looks SUPER blushed out to just be an enchi pastel, so my guess would be option 2. Probably better to ask someone who didn't think it was a completely different gene from the start though -.- lol

 

[Slashmaster]

I'm pretty sure this little one is the enchi champagne. It has too much pattern to be champagne and enchi does some weird stuff to it.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

It obviously has the enchi/pastel eyes, so one or both are undoubtedly in there. I'm pretty sure you were spot on, but this is based on my knowledge of google images and not personal experience

I'm going to keep my dummy mouth shut now and let someone who knows better give their input.

 

[hhmoore]

To start - I suck at this game.
Also, I don't think that it is a given that enchi champagnes will have distinct pattern.

That snake doesn't look like normal pastel enchi to me...if that's what it is, you scored an exceptionally nice one. The one at the top right of "entire clutch" pic looks pastel enchi-ish (that isn't the best pic for identifying; so I'm just saying it has that look).
How about pics of the parents?

*Edited to add - get that crinkly one on the bottom right in some water

 

[Slashmaster]

Here is mom...

Here is dad when he was a little smaller.

The only thing I know 'bout them is that the lemon pastel enchi is ph pied, and the champagne is ph ghost.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Harald, I don't know very much about champagnes, but if there was something like fire or another lightening morph in it would one be able to tell since the pattern is already so reduced? I honestly have no idea, it was just a thought when you mentioned seeing the parents.

And yea, I only saw two pics of pastel enchis that looked similar but those were out of how many total? If those are the only three genes possible you got some good ones.

 

[Slashmaster]

I'm starting to wonder if the baby might be enchi pastel yellowbelly. Looking at some pictures, some of them have weird heads and it'd explain the strange blushing.

The lemon pastel enchi was also advertised as "fader" but I don't think that's an actual gene. Hm.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Wut.

I do know that is like no champagne I have ever seen.

 

[Slashmaster]

She looks like a pretty normal champagne to me, tbh. All her littermates looked the same.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Also, that doesn't look like a fader at all to me. Fader pastels are usually super blushed out, they almost look like a super pastel...and the 'fader' gene, as far as I understand it, is just attached to the pastel gene, it can't actually be transferred by itself. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

 

[Slashmaster]

He came straight from Kevin at NERD, and that's definitely their thing...

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

'fader' gene supposed to be 'fader gene'. I think it's pretty well accepted that it is NOT a separate gene. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Just took some pics of our pastel yb 'fader' so you can see the difference. The fader is very obvious if it's there from what I know. Will upload in a second.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

[/url][/IMG]

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

I've definitely read....things...about Kevin, but this is what a fader looks like. That's just a pastel yb 'fader', no other genes as far as we know. So yea, if it's there it is very obvious, but again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

For comparison, this is our pastel yb (NOT fader). There is still some blushing, but nothing close to what the fader pastel has.

[/url][/IMG]

 

[MCMB]

Here are some more pictures of our "fader" yellowbelly pastel.
The fading on his head is especially noticeable.
His yb flames also connect to his faded out back.