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Help!!william Alexander Is Ripping Me Off $400.00

You sure love it when I paid your truck off before they took it back, or when you needed money to go to your grandma’s house to help her out of the floods Water. I showed you kindness, and that does not have any thing to do with you owing me 1 Pair of Aqua Flame collard lizards. I would do it again not with you! I suppose BTW is a pet word you use? For the record is is not calling Me, ID caller is a record.
 
Justin,
I cannot begin to respond to your suggestion to me to agree or disagree, or even propose, a solution. I believe that most readers here, even those who, like me (in the currently parallel thread) realize that there is a problem with trying to distinguish between "free" and "not free", when its all in the same deal. But both you and Bill are throwing around numbers and related details that you are very familiar with, bit which are still kind of difficult for the rest of us to follow. I seem to gather that you have made a compromise settlement offer. If Bill does not clearly understand it, then he needs to say so. If he disagrees with it, he needs to explain why. And hopefully, all will explain their points clearly, and provide whatever communications are available. Justin, most of us feel that you are getting the short end of the stick. Understand to, that when you start a negative thread against someone, you are escalating matters and raising the animosity level. Sometimes it is your only recourse. just as sometimes all you can do is take someone to real court, lawyers and all. But when you then also label someone a thief, or liar, or a$$hole, even if the shoe may fit, you are also making a solution more difficult.
 
Two points:

1- You go to the grocery store and see $10 T-bone Steaks: buy one get one free. You take your two steaks to the cashier and pay your ten dollars. The cashier then takes one of the steaks, rips it out of the package and wipes the floor with. He then hands it to you and says "here's your free steak."

2- There are specific consumer protection laws that govern how you can and cannot act in your attempts to collect a debt. One of those is that if the person tells you not to call them, you cannot call them. There are many others, such as certain disclaimers ("this is an attempt to collect a debt, yadda") and if you violated these you may have already forfeited your rights.

It seems as if both parties have fallen short of the initial agreement. You both need to spell out which parts have not been completeed, and then:
A- fulfill the contract,
OR
B- decide the value of each side's shortcomings and finish off the payment on whichever side is short. (Not "free" but the ACTUAL value, just like your "free steak.")

At this point, you are both in the wrong, IMO.
 
Chamco your right i shouldn't call people names


Well Bill I will call you right nw if it is ok... if you want to work this out..DO YOU want to settle this, I am tired of this and don't want it dragged out anymore...But it will drag out forever until we agree on a solution..

How's this...send me 350.00 via payapl and keep everything,
 
It seems as if both parties have fallen short of the initial agreement.

he got a pair of outstanding aquaflame collared lizards, are you taking him at his word that they are crap with no evidence...show to me the evidence that proves I havn't lived up to my part of the deal...
 
I agree, and in general contract law agrees, that if items are used to induce the agreement to a contract, free or not, they are part of the transaction and must be of a certain quality. This is specified under the Uniform Commercial Code, adopted in all states except Louisiana.

Again, this is a lot of money, y'all need to sit down, calm down, and talk over y'all's expectations and come to an agreement rather than calling words like 'mindless dribble' which will not induce either side to see the other side's point of view.
 
I'm sorry I can't even comprehend this guys first post. Dead run over box turtles? This sounds like a little retribution due to buyer remorse to me. I wouldn't even worry about this guy Justin.
 
The clear pic of the aquaflame came from me, the altered one from him and the one in the cup from him, you cannot see the animal in question, because it is in the cup, female collared lizards are not colorful, males are, he needs to show you guys the male...to be fair here..
 
Yes you are right a can not express my self clear, I had a hard time getting on this site i had planed on doing this when help come this morning, I did confided in people that emailed me confidence, They just emailed it to Justin, so I'm here early
I should have waited. I do want to point out the image on Justin Mitcham. Is the adult i was suppose to get the one in the tub he sent against my saying not to send IT I'll give him 120.00 for them but i want the adults as he promised me, and if there is a place to escrow 400.00 dollars in his name I'll do it, But there going to be a lot of back tracking.
I'm way to old for this i had no idea Buying animals would be harder then keeping them alive.
 
For what its worth I'm in the market for an adult albino striped male fat tail. If Bill would like to send the animal to me I can send the $400 over to you Justin. Its just another option you guys can ponder. If Bill doesn't want the fat tails he'll jump at this proposal.
 
If the animals are included in the deal...regardless of the price shown on the paypal request...they are part of the deal...

You holding out any animals from the "free" part of the deal...or not providing the animals that were expected is a deal breaker as much as Bill refusing final payment...

Sounds like there is definitely a communication gap between you and Bill that needs to be bridged...

You never denied that he spent many THOUSANDS of dollars with you in the last 6 months or so...or that he paid off your truck to avoid repossession...seems like he has helped you through some major binds and the logical thing here would be for the two of you to work it out amongst yourselves before anyone is labeled ANYTHING on the BOI.

To call the man a liar, thief, or scammer for holding back less than 5% of the total money spent with you this year due to his being unsatisfied with the animals you promised him...or not receiving all of them (I am still unclear on this point)...does NOT make him a bad guy...but makes me believe that this is a recoverable business deal. He has stated that he is more than willing to pay the final amount once the deal is completed as it was agreed upon.

So far NEITHER of you has shown sufficient evidence to support EITHER side of the argument...making this a "he said/she said" argument...which doesn't allow it to be judged adequately by the members of the BOI...the only things we have to go on...are the stories of both parties and the opposite response...

So far you have not denied any of his statements...showing that you are desperate for money and unyielding in attempting to find any middle ground and resolve this issue.
 
Jeremy,
I don't know what to do, I've not yet figured out how to post, I
guess you have to pay. It will come and it is not about free lizards. Thank
you for giving me the heads up. Bill

here's an email that was forwarded to me,plainly states this is not about the lizards...

BTW Bill send us a copy of the email you said you sent telling me not to send the lizards...BTW bill I never even sent you a pic of the ones you were to get so how did you turn that down..
Curious
 
critical bill said:
For what its worth I'm in the market for an adult albino striped male fat tail. If Bill would like to send the animal to me I can send the $400 over to you Justin. Its just another option you guys can ponder. If Bill doesn't want the fat tails he'll jump at this proposal.
Hay, i don't suppose you are interrested in collared lizards.
 
You holding out any animals from the "free" part of the deal...or not providing the animals that were expected is a deal breaker as much as Bill refusing final payment...

Read the post again..he got the lizards he wanted ...have him take apic of them, warmed up and post it here...


Also my truck was not fixing to be repossessed , I have never been late once and will prove it in one second...
 
tentoes said:
Hay, i don't suppose you are interrested in collared lizards.

:rofl:

Even if this wasn't meant to be a joke...it is frickin HILARIOUS...

I see a business deal that could be easily resolved by a little less stubborness and a little MORE understanding...

Posting emails forwarded from other people show little more than third party rhetoric...hearsay is the common term. If you have emails between you and Bill supporting your claims POST THEM...don't be shy...otherwise there is still no evidence in either direction...and baiting Bill is probably going to get you NOWHERE...
 
He obviously did NOT get the animals he wanted...that seems to be the whole point of contention here...

FINALLY SOME PROOF OF SOMETHING!!!
Can't wait to see it...although it seems to be proof of a sidepoint of the entire conversation...at least it is proof of something.

Maybe someone else can find out who shot Kennedy...or what is REALLY going on at Area 51...

Seems about as easy to provide proof for...seeing that nobody involved has produced SQUAT other than opinions...
 
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