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Bad Guy Heronboy, Jereme James, America's Finest Balls

I'm glad that you and John have managed to come to an agreement, but part of that agreement being silence does not reflect well on you.

My first assumption is that your customer agreed to a bad deal (for him) and promised not to say anything because otherwise you weren't giving him a deal at all.
 
People with sense will still avoid you like the plague..Too bad this thread hasn't received more views..I too don't understand the painstaking "secret deal"...It is most likely in your thieving favor..If he was receiving his money back, or getting some *healthy* snakes *finally*, then secrecy shouldn't be an issue Jereme..
 
You would think you would WANT to let everyone know what you did to make this right, maybe it would make you look like less of a "bad guy". The fact that you dont want people to know what you did to correct this issue doesnt help anyones opinion of you in the least.
 
HERONBOY said:
I am glad to report...
... I can say that John took great measures to make this happen and I am thankful.
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Lets hear from the victim instead.

I hope John can come here and be equally glad to report on your agreement. He is the one who started the thread over being less than satisfied, hopefully he will come here and close the thread by saying he is "fully" satisfied now.

Hearing that the victim took "great measures to make this happen", sounds like code for he ended up with what he could get, but not what he was fully out. The statement should have read, "I" went to great lengths to get him his money back, not the reverse.

All in all, I hope John is happy. I think the real test to determine if John is happy with the outcome, is whether he would do business with Mr. James again.
 
Robert Walker said:
Lets hear from the victim instead.

I hope John can come here and be equally glad to report on your agreement. He is the one who started the thread over being less than satisfied, hopefully he will come here and close the thread by saying he is "fully" satisfied now.

Hearing that the victim took "great measures to make this happen", sounds like code for he ended up with what he could get, but not what he was fully out. The statement should have read, "I" went to great lengths to get him his money back, not the reverse.

All in all, I hope John is happy. I think the real test to determine if John is happy with the outcome, is whether he would do business with Mr. James again.
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I totally agree. Let's here from John too.

Secrecy usually means good for the accused, not as good for the victim.
 
After all of his other nonsense does the fact he partakes in bribery when he is already holding the funds hostage really surprise anyone?
 
after reading 19 pages hearing it has been satisfied is great. But not finding out the ending really stinks for all of us.

reminds me of the tv show lost
 
Ghanakis said:
after reading 19 pages hearing it has been satisfied is great.
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We do not know that in fact the issue has been taken care of. We are hearing that from the 'Bad Guy'. I place no credence in what he has to say. That the OP did not announce any agreement smells of back room deals, and it does not smell good.
 
That's great if Jereme is finally doing the right thing!

However, if he isn't John, please don't feel bullied or pressured into remaining silent.

Just wait until AFTER he's refunded or sent you replacements, ok?

Happy New Year!
 
jwoolard said:
Jereme and I have talked and we have decided to settle this matter. I am thankful for a resolution and look forward to moving forward with the new year.
John
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Jereme should be the one that is thankful that you worked with him. He's the one that committed a felony out of pride and arrogance. He's the one that stole your money. You did nothing wrong.

I truly hope that this was a good deal for YOU and not just the only thing you could get him to agree to. And I have to admit, the terse non-explanations given by both parties have done nothing to reassure me.

Unless proof is provided that this "deal" was a fair repayment of John's money, time, and grief, I will not be doing business with Jereme ever again.
 
I really do not think the resolution is anyone's business but John and Jereme's. That being said, I think most will assume the worst unless John states otherwise.

Dave
 
David Reid said:
I really do not think the resolution is anyone's business but John and Jereme's.

Dave
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I think if one party or the other publicizes an issue by bringing it to the BOI with attendant discussion of the reputations and actions by each party, part of what readers want to see is how the issue is ultimately handled.
 
I have seen it many times before, Thanks to the BOI, and other forums a bad guy "see's the light", and agrees he made mistakes, apologizes makes things right, and things move on. I have not seen it yet, all I see is Jereme making some type of offer to John, and John taking it as opposed to receiving nothing. I am sure the terms of the deal were far from fair to John.
"better than nothing",​
right Jereme?​
 
Lucille said:
I think if one party or the other publicizes an issue by bringing it to the BOI with attendant discussion of the reputations and actions by each party, part of what readers want to see is how the issue is ultimately handled.
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That is how the "BOI Hobbyist" thinks. In reality, it is between Jereme and John, and only those two. Others would like to know how it ended up, but if neither want to discuss it, that is up to them. Again, if that is the case, like I said before, the rest of us will make up our mind based on the non-information.

Dave
 
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