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I just got a pair of Mali Uros, at least, I hope it's a pair. I have my doubts about the female cuz her femoral pores arent tiny, can I post a pic here to get some opinions? And, how do I do that? She is around a year and a half at best guess and weighs 130 grams, is that normal?

Thanks
FireDrake
 
Sarah,

If the photo is saved on your pc as a file, then next time you post to this thread just scroll down a bit below the text box in which yoy write your post and you will see and area on left that is titled Attach File and tot he right of that a browse button. Click on browse, find your file and highlight it, then click open. That should place the name of the picture file in the box next to where it said browse. When you then submit your post, it should contain the pic.
 

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Not workin

I tried using the attach pics thing, I didnt work. Can I really post a pic straigt from my harddrive? You cant do it that way on kingsnake.
I'll try again

Thanks!
 

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just my observation

Ms./Mrs. Kramer,
In regards to your first post asking about the weight and age of your female uro, 130 grams is a very good weight for the age of the uro you specified. What is the length of your supposed female?
From the picture you posted, its rather difficult to tell. Have you noticed any waxy substance seeping from the pores? Also if you have the time could you post a pic of its head? That can help as well. And just one more question, how does the other mali behave around this one, and vice versa?
On first glance, I would say its a female.



Good day


Carson Grindstaff
 
m or f?

I'm not sure how long she is, I havent measured, I'm going to attempt to attach two pics here, bear with me....
I hope she's a female!
Thanks!

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oh yeah...

I havent seen any waxy substance, but then again I dont hold her a lot, she's kinda wild still. She is in with an adult male uro who completely ignores her. I got her from people I trust, but I was just surprised to see how big some of those pores were, and I really dont have anything to compare her to except the adult male. He's black with yellow markings on his back, and I heard they were sexually dimorphic, but I have seen pics of adult females that were black, so I am pretty confused now and the people on Kingsnake.com were absolutly no help. So thank you so much for helping me with this!!
 
Thank you for taking the pictures. She looks very healthy. The reason I asked for a head shot, is because sometimes the structure of the head is different in males and females. As the male matures their head tends to have a triangular shape as you look down on them. The female will have a rounded head structure. During the spring time of the year and up to early summer a mature male of the species will secrete a waxy substance from those femoral pores. Theres no mistaking it. Females, as far as I have observed, do not secrete this waxy substance. Males, will do this little head bob, push up action as they approach the female. Males will also do this chasing there tail on their basking rock and in other parts of their enclosure. I believe this might be a marking of the territory so to speak. I believe you have a female, but I am by no means an expert. I would just watch how she and the male interact around each other, particularly next spring. If you spot any aggressive behaviour, I would most definitely seperate them. Mr. Bartley was in this thread earlier, perhaps he can add something that would assist us in determining the sex. Would you care to lend your opinion or observation on the matter Sir?

I will also check with a fellow Uro enthusist whose knowledge far surpasses mine. Regardless, I think you have a very fine looking, healthy Uro on your hands. If your time permits, posts pics of the male in the photo gallery. I would love to see him.

Good day,


Carson Grindstaff
 
thanks!!

Thank you so much for all your help, but now I fear that my male isnt a male? He isnt producing any wax either, i think???
Here he is.
The white scar is from a burn, he got it a couple years ago I think. Before I got him.


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Thanks!!!
 
When I chimed in it was to help the thread starter post a picture, not so much to give any info about Uros. I would not like to add my opinion on sexing them simply because I do not have an opinion. While I do know a bit about sexing lizards of various species, I don't know all that much about Uros although I am planning on getting some Ornate Uros or Sudanese Uros later this year, probably the Ornates. I have found that most lizards that are not very obviously sexually dimorphic are usually not all that easy to sex.

I will say though that if the suspected male is a male indeed, there is a good possibility that it will never show breeding interests after a burn like that. A burn capable of doing that much damage leaving a scar like that had to be quite severe, I would think, and therefore could have also done lots of internal damage too. You never know though recuperative powers are often amazing. An amazing scar, it almost looks like white out. I have never seen a scar like it before, the burn must have been pretty bad. Otherwise looks good so someone sure did something right to keep it alive after the burn.

I have done some searching on the net lately and in some books for info about Uros. I guess I should point out that the picture of your male U. maliensis does not look like other pics of Mali Uros that I have seen. Rather, I think it does look more like a U. asmussi from pics I have seen but as I said, I certainly don’t have a lot of info on Uros. I imagine there are lots of color variations among the pics I have seen that could make me think that.


Here is a link to a fairly informative helpful Uro pagehttp://www.kingsnake.com/uromastyx/ .

best regards,
Glenn B
 
Firedrake,
The posted pic of the male would indicate the correct sex. There are some factors involved in that waxy substance I mentioned earlier. It only appears from sexually mature males, and is most likely seen during the spring of the year, up to early summer. My mature mali starts producing the substance around the end of February, and by mid June, it no longer appears. Another way to determine sex is hemipenal bulges. This can be accomplished by holding the uro, belly down, and lifting the tail . If two bulges appear, its a pretty good indication of a male. If a single or no bulge appears then its an indication of a female.
I beleive your female is not quite sexually mature from its size, and the age listed. The male looks like he is not quite sexually mature either, as it can take up to four years for malis to become sexually mature. I wish I could give you a definitive answer, but I believe that you were sold correctly sexed uros. The proof in the pudding will be if you find them mating. Another excellent site for information is www.deerfernfarms.com.

Best of luck with your new pets


Good day,

Carson Grindstaff
 
Mr. Bartley,
Thank you for your input, its always helpful to have as much information as possible and from different sources. In regards to Ornates and Sudanese. One can not go wrong with Ornates. They are easily sexed via their color, usually top out at around 12 inches, have great personalities, but be warned sir, many folks have made the observation that Ornates are the "couch potatoes" of the Uro World. LOL. They like to eat, and one of my associates who happens to have a breeding pair is always stating how she has to watch their diet closer than she does her own, :) They also have some of the most vibrant color of all the species.
Best of luck with the project if you decide to procure a pair.


Good day,

Carson Grindstaff
 
Thank you!!

Thanks for you input, I greatly appreciate it. It was a bad burn, done by a heat lamp too close. This lizard has moved around a bit, home to home, and is a bit beat up. The previous owners think he was wild caught, LTC. They took very good care of him, but didnt really want to get into breeding Uros, so I said I'd take them. This male has a couple odd toes, rough looking scales and most recently an abcess in his back leg. I work in a vet clinic and am lucky to work with a Dr who will help me with my reptiles, we treated the abcess today.

Thanks again
 
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