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Hidden gene lesser/soul sucker stuff

But we all know if it would have been someone else do a pairing that might be lethal, everyone around here would be up in arms against them, even if they were trying for other combos. I saw it anytime people would post about breeding boas, hypo motley to a motley, to get more hypo motleys. People flipped when they saw that. Why is it ok for kevin to do it?
 
But if the pairing could be lethal to the offspring, wouldn't it be unethical and solely based on greed? If people are to sell kinked, or offspring from kinked caramel lines, the hounds come out and crucify them. I have nothing against kevin besides his horrible (imo) choice for morph names. I just can't stand to see the little guy get reamed for something that is perfectly acceptable for one of the big wigs to do.
 
I think that anybody can do what they want. Breeders make albino ball pythons and sometimes they're born with no eyes. Caramels kink. Spiders spin. Champagnes spin. Pinstripes have shark bills. And so on.
 
rcpreis3 said:
But if the pairing could be lethal to the offspring, wouldn't it be unethical and solely based on greed? If people are to sell kinked, or offspring from kinked caramel lines, the hounds come out and crucify them. I have nothing against kevin besides his horrible (imo) choice for morph names. I just can't stand to see the little guy get reamed for something that is perfectly acceptable for one of the big wigs to do.
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All caramel lines kink... So are you saying no one should ever breed for caramels because one of the babies out of the clutch may be kinked? I dont think Keven means to produce pearls I have heard him say they pop up here and there... and I dont think any of the little guys will get reamed or crucified if they make a Pearl...
 
Yea if your producing genetically deformed babies they shouldn't be sold or bred, them or their relatives. Period. who wants to have lil ones that will have to be culled? Or live a life that could be extremely painful, but we don't know the extent of how these snakes feel pain. but I've seen caramels so badly kinked their bones are sticking out, and can't imagine that to be pleasant. I feel its wrong for us to intentionally pair failed genes we when have complete control over these pairings. Now if you wanna experiment and try to produce stronger lines thats cool, like how we have spiders now that don't really wobble. But to just do a breeding and say, "if we get any flukes oh well" just for the chance at that one other morph, I feel is wrong and poor husbandry.
 
I feel the same about people too. If your genes are inferior you shouldn't breed. But like you said with albinos missing eyes and duck bills in cinnies, I'm pretty sure I read those were results of too much in breeding which again is a failure on the breeders part. I'm not telling you guys what to do I just feel doing a pairing with the possibility of a deadly, or inferior combo, is just plain irresponsible.
 
I have a few lessers and they range from dark to very light, some are full of alien heads and some have alien heads and very reduced pattern, i was saying to a friend earlier that if i didnt know better i might think they are different morphs.

With that much variation and a big time pattern changer like HGW in the mix, its stands to reason that the soulsuckers will be really varied too.

I like Kevin, but he seems to be slowly backtracking about the hidden gene lesser nonsense. :eek:
 
I have a few lessers and they range from really dark to very light, some are full of alien heads and some have no alien heads and very reduced pattern, i was saying to a friend earlier that if i didnt know better i might think they are different morphs.

With that much variation and a big time pattern changer like HGW in the mix, it stands to reason that the soulsuckers will be really varied too.

I like Kevin, but he seems to be slowly backtracking about the hidden gene lesser nonsense.
 
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