High End Herps (Inquiry)

[monkeywrench133]

Well, it was worth asking

 

[Scott Ashton]

Dan:

Help me out here.

Ok, first off when I started getting snakes I was working/volunteering at a rescue and some snakes I got there, and the ones I purchased were kept there as well. I then moved to a friends where I rented two rooms. One for the snakes and one for myself. When money got tight and I could not afford both, I lived in the car and gave the snakes their room. I have not lived with my mom in several years, but due to owning snakes could not go back when I had no where to go ( I am 22 so I have been out of my moms house since 18, except for a several month stay in between houses and to house sit once). I eventually lost the place I was keeping the snakes due to a personal conflict with my landlord/friend. I moved them all to my friends basement and slpt on their couch and payed them 50 a week plus all increases in utilities. Their landlord came over saw the snakes and said if they were not gone by Monday, my friends had to move(this was on a friday I believe). You can check I had post on several sites looking for someone I could pay to board my snakes locally and I would come and care for them daily, search it on here, although I may have removed it, dont remember(would have been early september some time). No one responded, and that post actually led to the loss of my kingsnake account becuase they said I was advertising and I argued with Ginger over there and she kicked me off. I was lucky enough sunday niught to get in touch with a friend with a full basement at her businees who let them stay there temporarily against her landlords wishes. If I am such an awful person or a liar I do not think that all these people would help me at their risk. Finally time ran out there and my friend moved stuff around in his own bedroom and snakes room to allow my stuff to stay there. At this point I had a lot of personal demons and decided that if I truly cared about my animals they would be best in the hands of someone who could give them proper care. ALso as far as breeding, it is hard to cycle snakes and keep them interested in breeding when you are moving every month or so, and in different cages, and atmospheres. Also I have never bred before, they were pets, and future breeders when I was ready for the challenge. The two female balls that cycled did it on their own, no temp drop at all. They are also not big enough to breed (800 grams and 450 grams) nor are they old enough (19 months). I also didnt have the manes to invest the money to make the money, when your broke, you are broke. I agree the decision lost me a lot and a lot of potential income, but for the sake of my animals I do not regret it. My only regret is selfish regret that I dont have them anymore. I will always miss them and they will always be loved, but for now pictures and updates will have to suffice. Hope this answered everything, oh and I got back to CT on tuesday AM about 230, have no idea what the date was, but the tuesday after thanksgiving. Take care, Dan M.

That would have been Tuesday, 11/28/06


Post #182

He is also a friend and I was hanging out over there. I got the radiator fixed right after I got back because the car boiled over the next day after work. I was just saying I happened to be over there last night for a poker game, which I won and if someone had wanted to talk to him for proof he was available. Thank for understanding the fact that I do care a lot. Also out of the 700 in expenses, not all was out of pocket. David threw in $225 towards expenses and the kid I traded with in MO threw in $100, so only $375 actually came out of my own pocket. Plus I bought them all brand new bags and bins for the trip so another 40 bucks or so there. All in all as I said, well worth every minute and every cent. I could not have asked for them to go to a better more suitable establishment.

That would have been Wednesday, 11/29/06.

Post #187

No my mechanic is great. I had the car back with in 2 hours and I didnt even make an appointment, just showed up and they sqeezed me in. His father owns the shop and is a great guy. Its nice to have friends I must say, for you it may be time for a new mechanic lol. Actually they also fixed my blinkers and defrosters that werent working for free. There was an electrical problem from the previous owner who fried the system. I hate my car, but its motivation to work that much harder. THanks again for the vote of confidence. Dan M.

So the car was repaired on 11/29/06.


On Monday, 12/04/06 you posted this:

Did anyone on here go the the Berks show this past weekend?? I was wondering how it went and what was there. I was heading there and my radiator blew up, so needless to say I didnt make it and still spent money. Just curious if I missed out or if it was awful. The last time I made it out there was this past February. Thanks, Dan.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91783


The Berks show to which you refer (also known as the "Hamburg show") was held on Saturday, 12/02/06. Your radiator blew while you were on your way to the show? When did you leave for the show?

The previous weekend you gave up the vast majority of your herp collection because you couldn't afford it, but now you were going to spend some cash at the reptile show in Hamburg?

 

[Cat_72]

WOW Scott.....some very interesting questions.

 

[Jim O]

I'm smelling something and it ain't roses.

 

[Cat_72]

I'm smelling something and it ain't roses.

Psssst, Jim, check your shoes......you may have stepped in something on the way into this thread, because someone is full of it.

 

[BenR]

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05-15-2004, 08:35 PM #1
Hanibal Lector
Registered User


Join Date: May 2004
Location: California
Posts: 6
Name : Damon Smith

Trader Rating: (0)


Warning Level: 0 Selling entire breeding colony of Morphs, Boas, Pythons, others and all supplies

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I am selling my entire breeding stock of python morphs and many other species of boas and pythons as well as all my caging and thousands of supplies. Too much to list. Email to inquire. Chances are very good that I have what you are looking for.

Here is a partial list of some of the animals that I have available:

Albino Reticulated pythons
Het albino Reticulated pythons
Tiger het albino reticulated pythons
Super tiger reticulated pythons
Tiger reticulated pythons
Albino granite burmese
Granite het albino burmese
Albino labyrinth burmese
Albino paternless burmese
Green patternless rock pythons
Hybrid rock/burmese pythons
Ceylonese pythons
all carpet species
most boa species, terrestrial and arboreal
Some tri color colubrid species

All of the above are adult snakes, many of which are currently gravid. I also have eggs in incubation for sale as well as offspring. Make no mistake, I am not hard up for money and I know what everything is worth so please don't make ridiculous offers. I am going to patiently get full market value for every last snake. All of my snakes are 100% healthy and have been kept in fully closed colonies. Everything I have is captive born. All but 2 are very docile and easy going. I offer a full year guarantee on every animal.

In addition to the above I am selling all my caging and supplies. My cages consist of visions, neodeshas, and many home made but very well build multi-unit rolling cages. Email for pictures. Also available: Hundreds of sweater box cages, misting systems, humidifiers, incubators, rolling work stands for cleaning bowls and replacing papers, three full sized freezers, hundreds of rabbits, thousands of rats, rat breeding supplies, rabbit breeding supplies, high quality rabbit and rat food tonnage, etc, etc, etc.

I will accept only cash, bank cashiers checks, or money orders. I will certainly consider any newer model recreational vehicle/motorhome that is no older than 2 or 3 years and in near pristine condition. Preferably exceeding 35 feet. Will also consider a travel trailer, also near new, preferably large with either gooseneck or standard hitch.

I will not ship any of these animals. They are person to person pick up only. I want to know where every snake is going and who is buying them.

Seems to be a repeating theme with this scumbag, no matter what name he's using to fool the rubes.

I can't find the rest of this old classified ad that Wes added to this thread, but I do remember a couple months (maybe more) after Damon posted this ad in 04 he claimed everything was sold, and he was going to drive around the country and see everything as he had plenty of money already(which he admitted he made from drugs btw). Now, shortly before High End Herps shows up summer of 05 we know Damon was busted in AZ and still had his reptiles. This showing that he only pretended to sell his off collection. Now, what possible reasons are there for someone to try and convince everyone they are out of reptiles when they really aren't? Not only that it's been shown that High End Herps has a few of the same snakes Damon use to post pictures of when he was using the name Brian Smith.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

I can't find the rest of this old classified ad that Wes added to this thread, but I do remember a couple months (maybe more) after Damon posted this ad in 04 he claimed everything was sold, and he was going to drive around the country and see everything as he had plenty of money already(which he admitted he made from drugs btw). Now, shortly before High End Herps shows up summer of 05 we know Damon was busted in AZ and still had his reptiles. This showing that he only pretended to sell his off collection. Now, what possible reasons are there for someone to try and convince everyone they are out of reptiles when they really aren't? Not only that it's been shown that High End Herps has a few of the same snakes Damon use to post pictures of when he was using the name Brian Smith.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39152

 

[BenR]

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39152

That's not the same one. He had another one in the Python classifieds that was a couple pages long from questions and different replies he made. I also remember prices being listed which were fairly high.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Scott,
Columbo would be proud ! Do you wear an old raincoat, and as you walk away, turn and say "Oh, just one more thing" ? If the reptile market ever crashes, you and Ritchie should gumshoe. Dr Owens, you can address the medical needs of those that they perforate !

 

[HerpVenue]

Damon Posted his entire collection for sale on 5/15/2004
he supposedly sold EVERYTHING by 6/23/04

He lied.

but according to some folks who posted, he did not do any bad business. He just lied.

so now we know he still has his collection.
A collection that seems to be identical to David's


I am going to be judgmental here for quite a bit.

Dave and Tracy Barker, they own only a couple of "Sites"
And yet They both manage to always look classy and CLEAN.

Ralph Davis only owns a building or two.
And yet he always manages to LOOK CLEAN.

here we have David and Tawni who can afford SEVERAL Buildings
Can she at least afford a bath too? Maybe afford some shampoo for her matty wig....err hair.
Can she buy a mop and a broom?

Her picture looks to me like someone who is also trying to hide her identity.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Ritchie,
As you know, there is so much that is wrong with this picture as well. Beauchemin sounds real Cajun, but it is not a common name. Point being, it sounds more made up than real. People can do their own searches, but for something that sounds so coon-ass (you Cajuns know the term), the results are weak.

Besides the coincidences and circumstantial evidence, which is overwhelming IMO, what caught me early in this thread was the nature of the denials. In particular, the challenge to the accusers which was basically "what's your beef with Damon"? Its immaterial if you are falsely accused of being another entity. On the flip side, its the question that one asks if the person asking already knows the answer, and is trying to deflate an argument. Damon (David) already knew the answer, and that is why it was asked. Otherwise, it makes no sense in their posts. Trouble is, while it may work in court (the biggest mistake an attorney can make is to ask a question when they don't know the answer already), it is fresh meat here in the BOO. Likely already done several times over, but to anyone who was threatened in the manner that Damon was known for, put the Arizona folks on this Jung-FY keyboard black belt Damon. If he's on the up-and-up now, he can square things without all the lying and deceit.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Spell check killed me. That would be "BOI", not BOO, and a "Kung fu" keyboard, not "Jung FY"..... proceed.

 

[Wraith]

As to the person who mentioned the dial up internet I can confirm that David has a facility in Oakdale LA, as I have been there, and I was born in Louisiana, so I know the state, and he is definately there. As a matter of fact he was just hooking up an internet connection in that building so that he had one while he was cleaning/feeding the snakes, since the building is strictly snakes, and a sink, counter ect, and he soends so much time in there, as any good herper does with their animals. Oakdale is a small town and there arent any real big towns from the texas border to there so it is possible, also maybe Daves house is closer to the border, as he did not live in the snake facility. All I know for sure is he is definately in Louisiana, and has an established facility there, and lots and lots of snakes. The quick tour I took was at least an hour in just one of his facilities, so he definately has a good sized collection. Take care everyone, Dan M.

I think it's hogwash to claim that because he lives in a "small town" that he has to go 200 miles out of his way and into the next state for dial up access. I have several friends that live in tiny towns in the middle of no-where where you can't get any access other than extremely crappy dial up (15K baud or less) and access numbers are easily located within 30 miles or less of where they live...#'s found in slightly larger small towns. The number of access numbers may be limited in small towns compared to larger places and major cities, but they are not missing from those areas to the point of having to go to OUT OF STATE to get a number to dial in to.

Oh look... oakdale, LA is only 44 miles from a major city Alexandria, LA. Lake Charles is 59 miles away. Hell, if you want to get downright desperate, worst case scenario.... Lafayette is only 97 miles away... Baton Rouge is 140 miles away. Plenty of easy access points and probably even more access numbers in smaller towns between those larger ones and oak dale.

Adrian

 

[fuscusking13]

Scott...

You are right and I was wrong... I thought it was the next day but it was saturday. My friend would have been down from college that week because of thanksgiving, and I really thought it was right after I came back. He looked at it and told me it was my thermostat and I should fix it, but I decided to wait and that is what caused the radiator to go, so it would have been on a saturday becuase I had my friends son and I promised to take him to the berks show and get him a snake for an early xmas present. I forgot I even had that post, if I remember correctly no one ever responded to it. SO he looked at it on wednesday, but fixed it when it actually boiled over on saturday. A great move on my part because had I fixed it wednesday, it would cost a lot less, a lot. So it was definately a saturday, because I got it done in the afternoon and during the week I would have been at work. Sorry for any confusion, I just didnt think about it to seriously, I should have looked at my email, my short term memory is absolutely awful.

Laura no need to feel bad by the way, I am my own person and take all responsibility for my actions, I came here to state my experiance and as it tends to things escalated into the usual pissing contest. No matter how much I defend them they are the only ones who can save themselves. I posted my email address earlier so any further questions feel free to email or even call my cell phone for all I care. Its 860-331-6289, but it is pre paid so please call after 9ish eastern time, or have verizon as I get that free lol, I am cheap and broke, and low on minutes till I hit walmart, but I will answer anything. I am usually up until 1ish or later, and the phone wont wake me up. If I dont respond on here, dont take it personally, email or call me. I am just sick of typing my but off. Everyone have a great weekend, Dan.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Danny,
You have no need to fall on your sword for these people. They have done well by you, and that is both good and honorable. For many of us, its not about whatever matters Damon/David may need to mend with other folks. I have no dog in that hunt, and wish him no ill will here. As a volunteer here, I and others do have issues with anyone operating as an alias, especially when the real entity has issues to resolve elsewhere. Many of us, and I am sure Laura would concur, would wish nothing but the best for you. That would include knowing when and where to pick your battles. You did help keep the thread going, and the anti-Damon/David folks are appreciative

 

[Gecko_Den]

Damon Posted his entire collection for sale on 5/15/2004
he supposedly sold EVERYTHING by 6/23/04

He lied.

but according to some folks who posted, he did not do any bad business. He just lied.

so now we know he still has his collection.
A collection that seems to be identical to David's


I am going to be judgmental here for quite a bit.

Dave and Tracy Barker, they own only a couple of "Sites"
And yet They both manage to always look classy and CLEAN.

Ralph Davis only owns a building or two.
And yet he always manages to LOOK CLEAN.

here we have David and Tawni who can afford SEVERAL Buildings
Can she at least afford a bath too? Maybe afford some shampoo for her matty wig....err hair.
Can she buy a mop and a broom?

Her picture looks to me like someone who is also trying to hide her identity.

Out of curiosity, where did you see pictures of HEH (David & Tawni)? I thought no one knew what they looked like which was why no one had said for sure that David and Damon are one and the same.

 

[FunkyRes]

OK - I read this entire thread.
I'm an outside perspective having had no business or personal dealings with either.

I think it is possible they are different people. However, it seems like an extremely uncanny coincidence that HEH had never heard of this "other" person, yet the person who registered their domain name happens to be the same person who bought the property from this "other" person.

It also seems odd to me that if they make all their money selling herps, that there are not more posts about them positive or negative. Someone dealing with high end herps deals with a lot of money, and where a lot of money changes hands, the customer is either really happy or really pissed. There are too few people willing to speak up in either category.

Look at Nocturnal Tom, for example. Lots of people bought from him and are happy to say so.

Look at the recent gecko person who went to jail - I can't recall company name. Lots of people bought from her and are unhappy to say so.

Yet it seems almost no one has actually bought from High End Herps - if they did have customers, there would be more people posting here with good or bad experiences.

From an unbiased perspective - here's how to end this:

If you ARE the other guy and you are looking for a chance to go legit - the first step is coming out and stating it. Make arrangements to make good on any past bad business. I'm a Christian and as a Christian I have to believe people can change - Paul certainly did. He did not hide from who he was before he changed, he was honest about it.

If you ARE NOT the other guy, it should be really easy to prove. A scan of your ID with your name would go a long ways, but even more convincing would simply be some kind of documentation of what you were doing while this other guy was running his stuff. You don't just wake up one day and decide to become a large breeder of large snakes. You should be able to easily provide verifiable information on what you were doing 5 years ago. That would shut everyone up and put the burden on them to apologize.

As it stands right now, until one of those two things happens, I would never buy from you - and the world should be warned that there are indications that very well may be an alias and not who you say you are.

 

[monkeywrench133]

Out of curiosity, where did you see pictures of HEH (David & Tawni)? I thought no one knew what they looked like which was why no one had said for sure that David and Damon are one and the same.

If we knew what David looked like, this thread would be over.

Richtie, where were these pictures posted?

 

[Griz]

The following people all left positive remarks for High End Herps on their GGC poll. I would be curious to hear more about why they left the feedback (we already know about Fuscusking and dutchallison) and what their specific dealings were.

Art Klass, Captive Bred Herps, dragonflyreptiles, dutchallison00, fuscusking13, jwpdcp, MikesGeckos, norsmis, OBES, scotty77327, Tenor Goddess, WestExHerps.

Griz

 

[Ravens_Mama]

Ok....I had my husband email HEH under the pretenses of wanting to purchase a albino retic ( intentions are true just NOT from him in a million years ) here are the emails abck and forth......i had him ask about the payment plan , the low income half off pricing...etc. Youll notice he is SO quick to answer some things and totally avoids other questions just like he does on the Forums.

How convenient...the payments are to be made out to tawni, sent to Tawni, why nothing in his name??? well maybe because David B ISNT even his name so it would be really hard for him to cash the money in now wouldnt it.

Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:36:58 -0800 (PST)
David Beauchemin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dustin,

We are out of 06 albino retics but you can reserve an 07
albino and yes, you can get it on a payment plan. We have
the best and easiest to manage payment plans in the world.
The details of our payment plan are outlined on the first
page of our website but it's all really very simple. All
one need do to secure any snake is to send an initial
payment of only 50 dollars, or 10% of the cost of the
snake, whichever is more. Then one may pay as little as 50
dollars or 10% value every 90 day-period. Our only
condition is that payments may not lapse more than 90 days.

Let me know what you would like to reserve and we can go
from there.

Thanks,
David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://HighEndHerps.com/
318 335-3673
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Wow thanks for the fast response
can i get pics of previous babies? what kinda pricing am i looking at? i was reading some stuff you had posted about low income pricing? what is your basis for low? im located in Wa state....how do you verify?
Dustin
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David Beauchemin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dustin,

I can lock you in at 600 for an albino male from 07. That
is half off our listed prices. Once you make your first
payment I can better explain the low income price
guidelines and how the program works. It's all very easy.
But I do take folks at face value from the getgo when they
tell me they need the low income price plan. I believe that
most people are honest and I have faith in that belief and
that's enough for me.

Let me know when you want to send your payments and I will
email you the address to send them to.

Thanks,
David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://HighEndHerps.com/
318 335-3673
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Hi
Sounds EXCELLENT she is gonna be SOOO friggin excited. Do you have any pics? id really love to show her atleast babies/siblings of what im gonna be paying for since ill have to throw together a lil pamplet like deal to give her for her birthday since they arent even born yet.
Dustin
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he then sent a picture of a albino but it had been messed with the colors were SO bright almost neon white and yellow.

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Oh Wow David that is GORGEOUS...thats what the babies will look like?? when do you expect some? how far down on the waiting list would we be? just wondering cuz i know shes gonna wanna pic her baby out...shes picky lol likes to look for identifying marks and it helps her decide on their name too.
Ok so where do i send the down....do i get a receipt...never done this kinda thing.
Dustin
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David Beauchemin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dustin,

I am expecting more than half a dozen unrelated clutches in
the next month alone. They will hatch approximately 2 1/2
to 3 months after they are laid.

All you need to do to initiate a payment plan is to send a
deposit of only 60 dollars. Naturally you can send more if
you like but that is the minimum. 10% of the value of the
snake once reduced to half.

Make all payments out to my wife as she handles all the
Accounting and Receiving. Send only Postal Money Orders
please. These are sold only at post offices. Mail all
payments here to our home address at:

Tawni Beauchemin
1568 Ward Rd. Oakdale, LA 71463

Once we receive your payment we send you a Payment Received
Invoice for your own records. These invoices are sent to
you with every payment and they outline every detail of the
transaction. What you are buying, how much you have paid,
how much has accumulated, and the remaining balance due.
It's all very simple and straightforward.

If you have any additional questions please don't hesitate
to email and I will answer you very promptly.

Thanks,
David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://HighEndHerps.com/
318 335-3673
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Hi David
sounds good......so my wife should pretty much have no problem of someone else wanting the same one she wants? unless were pretty far down the waiting list.
Thanks for the fast replies.
Dustin
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