Hooray our own forum on geckonetwork.com

[HerpVenue]

http://www.geckonetwork.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=547

Hooray the link above is Mario's own little forum just for his complaining about fauna classifieds. WE HAVE OUR OWN FORUM.
Note. This new forum he set up is specifically for him and his moderators. that way no one can go and show everyone his lies. He can lie till the cows come home and no one will be albe to go log in and refute his lies.

About this forum.
During this past year since February of 2003, I have been harassed, ridiculed, violated, abused, threatened and blackmailed by various members in the reptile industry. Members of the Fauna Classifieds site have been attempting to make my life a living hell.
This group of members have been set out to destroy my name and reputation because I am a competing site and breeder along with defending myself against one of their loyal and trusted members, Steven Beckerman. And this forum will allow me to express myself and get the truth out about this site and what they are doing to me and the community. Here you will find many post’s devoted to this situation.
Because of previous problems with these people coming to this site to cause problems, I have been forced to limit the people that are able to post in this forum. I have had to constantly fend of more and more lies on a daily basis along with repeating myself many of times over. I have also found that many time the material is quite inappropriate for the rest of the site. While this information maybe inappropriate for all audiences, it must be available so you can understand the whole picture. So if profanities, swearing and other types of harsh adult contact offends you, then you are advised not to read the contents in this forum.
This section is for those who want to know the truth about these people. Any posted material in this section is subject to our copyrights. Other such material is being used under the free use act and other clauses as evidence to prove fact from fiction..

Copyright my @SS. Look mario I have your copyrighted material in quotes.....come get me big boy. Whoops I forgot. You have whole pages of fauna codes and forums and banners hosted on your server.

Wow mario. You keep claiming freedom of speech. Is that why your new forum is available for the public to view but not post? That is some freedom.
Is that why you have deleted tons of posts that show your lies? That is some freedom.

Mario when you take down our entire forums and copyrighted material and banners of your servers....I will take down your copyrighted material.

But as of right now..I am using it under thatb free use act you are hiding behind.

Hey mario....I just love your boycott. The fact that you come here everyday shows no one listens to your boycott. Not even you.
Not even your partner (Rakell) listens to your boycott.


Boycott = To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with as an expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion.

p.s. whoever "violated' mario.....you are just disgusting. I would not touch his nasty butt with a ten foot pole

Abused? ..anyone here slap him around like a little b!&ch?

Anyone here threaten him?

or is that just Mario wishful thinking AGAIN

 

[HerpVenue]

I know..the caption should read..please violate and abuse me.
but oh well

 

[DThomas]

Jeez, can you say "Conspiracy Theory," "Paranoid Delusional?" I can not believe how obsessed he is. lol If he would just channel all of this energy into something usefull and constructive he might be able to move out of mom's house...lol

 

[HerpVenue]

His TOS

"You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed)."

Mario says this on September first about the world H3LL

"You know, I believe we even moderated that word in the past as well. It isn’t appropriate for a family style forum."

But now he intends to post on his FAMILY forum the following

"profanities, swearing and other types of harsh adult contact"

HE HE HE.

mario in your own words
"(and your service provider being informed)"

 

[Gary O]

This is funny as he!!. He hates you guys but yet talks about you guys all the time lmao.

Maybe next he will make a Website to go with his forum to show his total meltdown.

 

[Gary O]

I am sorry about that I see he does have websites just about his hate. LMAO How sad.

This is one of the biggest melts I have ever seen.

 

[HerpVenue]

About FaunaClassifieds
This section is a collection of post’s, evidence, rebuttles and other such sites showing the wrong doings of Steven Beckermans, Ritchie Luna, Ken Harbart, Rich Zuchowski and other members of FaunaClassifieds and it’s self

I guess this means he will go on to violate his own boycott and come here everyday trying to dig up stuff

 

[WebSlave]

I certainly hope he put a link to this site in there somewhere.

 

[E2MacPets]

Wow, I do so much evil that there are multiple of me! For the amount of time Mario spends obsessing you'd think he could get my name right.

Here's a hint, it's in two places in each and every one of my posts, Mario.

 

[SPJ]

OMG! The guys in white jackets need to bring some thorazine over to him.

 

[Ken Harbart]

I'm second to last on the list of people he's infatuated with??? I'm flattered, but I feel dejected at the same time.

 

[HerpVenue]

Mario
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:07 pm
About the Top Sites counter recently found on GeckoFreak.com

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During a small number of post’s made on the FaunaClassifieds sites, I have noticed a some more recent postings indicating that there is no boycott or that I am the only one in support of such a boycott and that even the affiliated sites here are not supporting the boycott but in fact support Fauna’s actions. As I have showed time after time, Fauna and it’s members will stop at nothing to completely distort the truth and flat out lie. They play on peoples perceptions to be manipulated into what they want them to believe. Obviously if Fauna is out to expose bad people in the business, then why would they being distorting the truth?
The have indicated that Rakell who owns GeckoFreak.com one of the Affiliated sites here on HGF has the Fauna Top Sites program on here page along with attempting to coheres people into the belief that she would be in support of Fauna’s actions. This belief is very false and a deliberate attempt by fauna to distort the truth (LIE).
Rakell does not support Fauna. She was also victimized and attacked by them as well. Fauna has actually attempted to keep her quite on getting the truth out about them. If Fauna had it’s way then any partnership or friendship between me and here would be destroyed.
Not only does Rakell not support Fauna, she has previously on a earlier date removed links and banners to their site. She has stopped using their site to my knowledge other then maybe her researching about what’s going on with this whole situation.
She did in fact have the Fauna Top Sites counter on her page. However, at the time she removed the links and banners, their was no official boycott underway. She also overlooked the Top Sites Program. And as many of you know, she has been quite busy off the forum. So once the official boycott was underway, she didn’t have much of a opportunity to update her site. She had overlooked the Fauna Top Sites program, plain and simple. No way did it represent her support for Fauna Classifieds and no way did it represent your stand of being against the boycott. However, because of Fauna’s statements that brought it up into the spotlight that it was still their, it has been removed. Now does this sound like support of Fauna? Or does it sound more like support of the boycott?
Again, it’s just another way Fauna attempts to exploit something and someone perception on the truth. This shows how easy it is for someone to completely twist the facts around into a lie.
If anyone has any questions to this, they may either contact me or Rakell on this matter. While Rakell did not take part in writing this, she can be contacted as to the accuracy of this.

This boycott of Mario's is funny. He says not to utilize fauna etc etc... Do not buy from members etc etc Do not come here etc etc.

Well Mario says I distort the truth.

How can I distort the truth? It is simple. There are no two ways about it.

The truth is.....Mario and Rakell still utilize this site.......................and if that is not the truth.......then I just don't know what Mario has in his head.

The truth is Geckofreak had the faunatopsites counter on her page and it was just taken off very recently..........how is that a lie?

Another question.....who here tried to stop Rakell from telling the truth?.....................yeah..my answer is NO ONE as well


yeah I twisted the facts into a lie....I guess because her utilizing the site and its services is just a figment of my imagination....even though Mario clearly says she still comes here. And coming here means utilizing the site. And using the faunatopsites counter is utilizing the site and its services.

 

[E2MacPets]

You know it's funny, I recall Rakell's site being hosted by Mario.

Could be wrong, of course. Would be interesting to know just who updated her site recently to remove fauna programs. Somehow I don't think it was her that overlooked something on her own website.

Funny.

Hey Mario, can you find a link on my site to Fauna? How about a banner ad here on Fauna.

Unlike you, rakell, and corey, I've never paid money nor supported any fauna program.

Who's brownnosing again? Who is utilizing tools on a site they boycott in order to get more traffic to their own site?

 

[Ken Harbart]

I would not be just a nothin`,
my head all full of stuffin`,
My heart all full of pain.
I would dance and by merry,
Life would be a dingle derry,
If I only had a brain.

If I only had a brain...


Now then, I got around to thinking. Mario's thought process, or lack thereof, seemed awefully familiar...

Captioned to read: I am telling you. There are many of us and we are boycotting the infidels, and they are trembling in fear. My boycott of one will soon place them in a quagmire from which they will never emerge.

 

[HerpVenue]

There are no Americans in Baghdad.
Just like there are no Faunatopsites counters on any site affiliated with the network of two......
hhhhmmmppph... Wait... Let me take that counter off before you check


p.s. Her site was updated today 9/11/03
and Mario's post above was posted today 9/11/03

Things that make you go hmmmm

 

[HerpVenue]

p.s. we use the same banner exchange program.

Their banners appearing on my site does not matter to me.

But I am just tickled pink when I go to their sites and see my banner on their sites..................that is definately the best.

Infact, hit’s isn’t a true or accurate way to judge web traffic. And you prove this exact reason. One visitors could go through a site and generate a ton of hits. But it’s unique hits that count.

So Mario does not think those topsites counters are a great idea.

And as usuall my I am twisting the truth.....because that topsites counter I see on his site is not really there. His mind is just so strong that he is making me see one

 

[HerpVenue]

Posted by mario
The whole idea of having competitors police and regulate their competitors is obscene.

So I wonder why a site owner like mario is trying to "police" this site? hmmmm do as he says but not as he does

Posted by mario
But actually the banners displayed besides Corry’s (because again I like to keep you guessing) are actually free. It’s a curtsey service to my members. Just one of the way’s I try to help the community, not profit from it.

So Mario is not running his site for profits. but accepts corey's money to run his ads ads...

As far as him “greasing” my pockets goes. He purchased advertising space before this started. In fact because of yours and the rest of fauna’s false lies, I almost lost him as a advertiser for fear of any truth to your lies. Infact, I haven’t even cashed in on his payment yet. It’s still sitting in on my account set up for it. Infact, I am under an other obligation with his ad right now. And who said I wont boycott Corry? Actually I didn’t say anything about boycotting him or not boycotting him. But I am going to follow up on my obligations to him. And Corry knows I have nothing personal against him.

So he is running the banner add for free but has Corey's money in his account. And he has obligations to Corey so he will continue to display his banner and not boycott him........... yeah..you have Corey's advertising money in your bank account....you bet you have an obligation to display his ads.

And what did Corey say to me about all this awhile back?

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Who said I was working with mario? I buy advertising on his stie, and thats it.

Besides that I dont have contact with him.

Best regards,
Corey Sawyer
Sawyer Zoological
http://www.SawZoo.com

hey everyone...
I will put your banners on my site for FREE.
Just make sure to send me your money first so I can put it into my bank account...............for free



here is Mario diggin into Kelli Hammack because she makes a profit ffrom having a hobby and he does not like it

Oh ya, I forgot, no one makes money breeding reptiles. Hahahahaha. I seen your site and the animals you sell and breed. Don’t even give me this crap you ain’t making money or not in it for the money. You are full of it. You have some very expensive morph colony’s. I also see your prices. Hell as of this writing, you have $4825 worth of geckos alone for sale right now. That’s a little over $125 per gecko on average. That’s from what, 4 females. And you have only some of your beeders on display. 29 of them to be exact. Let’s say you clustered them in average of 2 per male. So that’s at least 18 females. And these look like all high dolor morphs, so we will go with your average selling rate figured of $125. and give you a average of 10 offspring per females. That’s 180 offspring at $125 a piece. So that’s $22,500 of profit, just with those figures that im’s sure are being very lenient. Oh that’s right, you got cost of food. Let’s say your 30 adults are eating 12 mealys a day. That’s about 10,000 mealys a month. That would be a lot if ordering from the pet store. But us breeders know we can get them at wholesale at $30 for 10,000. That’s only $360 to feed these fleas for a year. Your still above the $22,000 mark. Yea, I know the babies need feeding too. But I’m sure anyone can see what I’m getting at. So would your really work at walmart for $10 an hour only making $20,000 a year minus taxes, or breed geckos and not must your behind and make $22,000 a year or more? Not to mention you said you aren’t doing it for profit, so your probably claiming it’s a hobby like many of the breeders and not claiming tax on it. But I can’t prove that part. Nor am I insinuating you are evading taxes. I’m just theorizing. But were sure you got a large collection and are probably colonizing more then 2 females per male. Not to mention this doesn’t include the high dolor snakes or tarantulas.
But ya, $22,000 is just pocket change. And it’s just a hobby. That’s the biggest scam of the industry, it’s only a hobby and you can’t make any money breeding. Even I was fooled by this, but my calculator don’t lie. Truth is, your pulling in a huge easy profit, and breeders do not want to control the number of breeders in the market to keep demand high for these new morphs but not flood it where prices have to drop. I think if people can make a profit off selling a Leo at $5, then you can certainly figure out how to make a profit from selling them at $125 on average. Especially for someone as qualified as you.
“I believe I have already explained what makes someone a top notch breeder, and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH FAUNA CLASSIFIEDS!”
Your right, fauna doesn’t make people a top notch breeder. But it’s interesting how people on fauna claim so and so’s a top notch breeder.
“Geez, what planet are you living on? "Big breeder dictatorship"?? You need help.”
Ya I guess so, kind of like your not making a profit. A BIG profit. Yes, fauna dictates the hobby. Or has tried to. Just like you attacking me because of a boycott. Maybe your paranoid I might let the truth out? Whoops I think I already did.

I guess in Marios world....Fauna members are not allowed to make a profit. Because he attacks Kelli for making a profit..........................but does not attack his own members. I guess it is okay for his members to sell $300 geckos.... but no one else is allowed to.
http://www.leoloverslizardlounge.com/available.htm

Now I see why Mario wants Fauna shut down. And its members boycotted. Because people would then go to his site and buy from his members. They then would buy advertising space from him. They would also buy from mario because he also claims to be a breeder. (don't tell me he gives all those babies away for free) And there you go. marios site is profiting because he does not run it for profit.

Also he is chastising other people for not claiming taxes.
I wonder if he claims taxes on his banner ads and the geckos he breeds but "does not sell".

Do as mario says but not as he does.

 

[HerpVenue]

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Excuse me, I did not get any such apology emails from you. You preached let bygones be bygones in your post. You can’t even remember what you wrote down?

Yes, you have harmed my target market.

You know just because theirs traffic don’t mean its good traffic. And yes, I did see a sharp climb in traffic when that post was made. You know what. It was for just that one day too. After that it’s dropped considerably. And I have stats to prove this.
........................................(and on and on and on blah blah blah)

he does not run his site for profit. But he is extremely worried about his target market.





7 entries found for market.
mar·ket ( P ) Pronunciation Key (märkt)
n.
1. A public gathering held for buying and selling merchandise.
2. A place where goods are offered for sale.
3. A store or shop that sells a particular type of merchandise: a vegetable market.
4.
a. The business of buying and selling a specified commodity: the soybean market.
b. A market price.
c. A geographic region considered as a place for sales: grain for the foreign market; the West Coast market.
d. A subdivision of a population considered as buyers: cosmetics for the upscale market.
5. The opportunity to buy or sell; extent of demand for merchandise: a big market for gourmet foods.
6.
a. An exchange for buying and selling stocks or commodities: securities sold on the New York market.
b. The entire enterprise of buying and selling commodities and securities: The market has been slow recently.

v. mar·ket·ed, mar·ket·ing, mar·kets
v. tr.
To offer for sale.
To sell.

v. intr.
To deal in a market.
To buy household supplies: We marketed for a special Sunday dinner.

Idioms:
in the market
Interested in buying: We are in the market for a used car.
on the market
Available for buying: Many kinds of seasonal flowers are on the market.
Up for sale: They put the family business on the market.

 

[Wilomn]

Ritchie, I'm confused on this one and maybe you can help me out. mario refers to false lies told on fauna and, I think, it's sort of hard to follow anything he writes, you in particular, about him and his site. If there are false lies being told are these not, in fact, TRUTHS?

This is why I don't read his posts. I'm soooooo confused.

Wes Pollock

 

[DThomas]

Mario does need to go back to school and take more basic English composition classes. His grammer and spelling are atrocious, making his posts almost incoherent.