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How do you offer guaranteed paperwork on het animals?

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I was wondering what was involved in the "paperwork" on hets that everyone asks for. Is it just a piece of paper giving some guys word? It just seems like this paperwork could be easily forged.

Now I'm not sure if this is already what is done but I think there should be a few points on the paperwork for the animals.

1. Picture of the parent that makes the animal a het (possibly sitting on a newspaper with dates??)
2. Picture of the offspring (with dates??) that proves that the animal that was a possible het was proven the gene.
3. Signature
4. Possibly notarized???

Those are all just ideas really, but I'm wondering what everyone does to have the "paperwork" on their hets.
 
It really comes down to the name on the signature. Thats it.

When I produce a het~ I also produce the paperwork for that het. I put a picture of the animal on it's paperwork and I retain a picture of the animal in my records so that I can verify by pattern if an animal in fact the animal I made paperwork for even years later........

THEN

When I sell that animal~ I SIGN the photo. Thats MY guarantee that the animal pictured on that card is whatever that card says it is AND that there is an exact copy of that card in MY records so that if you sell that snake 5 years down the road and your buyer wants to know if it is the same snake I can send them a copy of the picture of the animal.

So~
It really comes down to....
Do YOU TRUST ME?

YOU don't know me......so probably not. I don't know you.....I wouldn't buy hets from you either. Even when you "Know" someone~ sometimes you later find out that they in fact where not who you thought they were and sold fake hets (IE Top Shelf Exotics). A big name like RDR or Kahl might make you more comfortable. A lower price from someone with a good reputation might work.......

But in the end it all comes down to that signature and the reputation of the person signing.......

Do you trust him? her? them?
 
i 100% agree with cheryl,when i do produce hets,i will snap pics of the parents breeding if poss,then of the offspring in question.then keep all records down the line just so if there is someone interested in that offspring from another customer then i can verify it.hope it helps.
 
I have a standard page to fill in the IDs of the parents with a picture of each followed by a top and side shot of the baby being sold with the ID# and my signature. I also keep a copy of each page so I can verify if it was actually what I signed, just in case.

Paperwork can easily be forged, like Cheryl said "it all comes down to that signature and the reputation of the person signing". I'd also add that being able to confirm with the original breeder if you're buying from a third party is important.
 
I agree with Cheryl, A persons Name goes along way in this industry, but as she said, it all come down to who you trust.
 
Thanks for the replies, that's really what I was wanting to know. I always see people either asking for the paperwork on them or the seller already says it's there and I was just wondering if it was a universal standard where everyone had the same thing that they did or if it was just some sort of guarantee that can vary how it is given from person to person.
 
I've gotten different paperwork from different breeders. I've gotten some with photo ID's, like the ones that Jeremy Stone signs, and those let potential buyers see that it IS the same animal I'm selling (not that I plan on selling any of my animals produced by Mr Stone! lol). And others like John Martino that just provide a written statement. Anyone could use a written statement and say that it was for any snake, hence I like the photo ID MUCH better......although, I'm not selling any of Mr Martino's animals either!! Even someone "unknown" could create the photo ID and say anything they like so, as it's been said, it all comes down to TRUST. But doesn't your level of trust kind of dictate whom you will do ANY business with??
 
I print out color photo ID sheets with a photo of the het animal, and a photo of both parents, their names IDs, and other information. I then sign this, laminate it, and enclose it with the animal when it is sold. I figure, with heavy lamination, if the animal is re-sold, it's easy for the paperwork to go with it and remain intact and usable.

But yes--het paperwork hinges on the credibility of the breeder producing it.

It's also a good backup against claims that 'such and such sold me this snake and it's not a het'--if the animal they're making a claim for isn't one you produced, they will not have the ID sheet for it. You can also verify whether you produced an animal by looking at a photo of it, if you keep a copy of the ID sheet in your own records. That way, a person who is buying that animal from another person who may have lost the paperwork can verify that you really did produce it, and it really is a het.
 
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