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How often should I use the reptical?
- Thread starter Kloster
- Start date
Ed Clark
New member
A growing baby needs calcium, everyone you ask is gonna have different ideas on this. I use it evey day on the insects and about every third day on the veggies.
A good UVB bulb is important, I like the zoo med 10.0 reptisun....there are many other brands out there also.
A good UVB bulb is important, I like the zoo med 10.0 reptisun....there are many other brands out there also.
rosebud945
New member
Have you read some good care sheets? Here is a list of foods and their nutritional value or lack thereof for beardies, and there is a vit and cal. dusting schedule on this page as well
http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html
What kind of UVB bulb are you using? What are your basking and cool side temps? Do you use a temp gun, a digital therm with probe or a stick on therm?
How old is your beardie?
http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html
What kind of UVB bulb are you using? What are your basking and cool side temps? Do you use a temp gun, a digital therm with probe or a stick on therm?
How old is your beardie?
Im not exactly sure how old she is, heres some pics:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/funker666/DSC02969.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/funker666/DSC02970.jpg
I chose her specifically because of her color and the stump on her tail
but shes awesome!
She ate just 1 cricket today and im guessing its cause of relocation stress and also ive been fiddling with her lamp the whole day cause I cant get it to exactly what I want (105 F). Im using a regular wall thermometer cause I ran out of $ for one of those digital ones with the laser. This makes taking a correct and quick temperature read a pain...
Her cool side is around 80 F and overnight my room stays at 75 F which is fine I think.
I read several care sheets before getting my beardie, her enclosure is around 30'' long and not very tall but tall enough. The breeder I got her from told me Ill need a new one in a few months.
She is around 5 to 6''.
As for the UVB tube im using im not very sure what kind it is or what voltage or all that only that its 7% UVB and thats what the breeder gave me for free(literally: "hey I dont need this if you dont have a UVB bulb for her use this").
Anyways thanks a lot for the replies!
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/funker666/DSC02969.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/funker666/DSC02970.jpg
I chose her specifically because of her color and the stump on her tail
but shes awesome!She ate just 1 cricket today and im guessing its cause of relocation stress and also ive been fiddling with her lamp the whole day cause I cant get it to exactly what I want (105 F). Im using a regular wall thermometer cause I ran out of $ for one of those digital ones with the laser. This makes taking a correct and quick temperature read a pain...
Her cool side is around 80 F and overnight my room stays at 75 F which is fine I think.
I read several care sheets before getting my beardie, her enclosure is around 30'' long and not very tall but tall enough. The breeder I got her from told me Ill need a new one in a few months.
She is around 5 to 6''.
As for the UVB tube im using im not very sure what kind it is or what voltage or all that only that its 7% UVB and thats what the breeder gave me for free(literally: "hey I dont need this if you dont have a UVB bulb for her use this").
Anyways thanks a lot for the replies!
Oh i forgot to ask...
Today I tried a waxworm with her and she chewed it and then spat it out and I guess she was disgusted by the taste, should I keep trying or did she just tell me that worms are gross?
I also gave her a mix of collard greens, romaine lettuce and hard boiled eggs which she hasnt touched (the cricket she ate before was nibbling on her salad for a while too).
Today I tried a waxworm with her and she chewed it and then spat it out and I guess she was disgusted by the taste, should I keep trying or did she just tell me that worms are gross?
I also gave her a mix of collard greens, romaine lettuce and hard boiled eggs which she hasnt touched (the cricket she ate before was nibbling on her salad for a while too).
rosebud945
New member
How long have you had her?
That bulb is probably okay, but since florescent bulbs lose their effectiveness after 6-8 months or so, it would be a good idea to get a new one soon, and the one that Ed mentioned is the best florescent tube.
You really need to get those temps straight or she can't process her food. If you can't afford a temp gun right away, can you afford this?
http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=1691
These sell for around $10 locally. You mount the thermometer on the side, then lay the probe directly on the basking spot, wait thirty minutes and read it. They are not as accurate and fast as a temp gun, but they are loads better than analog or strip therms that can be off by as much as 20F.
Wax worms are not a good feeder for beardies, especially babies. They are high in fat and have little nutritional value. Stick with the small crix or roaches, or if you can afford them, horn worms, pheonix worms, and silk worms are great, but you have to buy them on line. Are you making sure the crix are no bigger than the space between her eyes?
What are you using for substrate?
That bulb is probably okay, but since florescent bulbs lose their effectiveness after 6-8 months or so, it would be a good idea to get a new one soon, and the one that Ed mentioned is the best florescent tube.
You really need to get those temps straight or she can't process her food. If you can't afford a temp gun right away, can you afford this?
http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=1691
These sell for around $10 locally. You mount the thermometer on the side, then lay the probe directly on the basking spot, wait thirty minutes and read it. They are not as accurate and fast as a temp gun, but they are loads better than analog or strip therms that can be off by as much as 20F.
Wax worms are not a good feeder for beardies, especially babies. They are high in fat and have little nutritional value. Stick with the small crix or roaches, or if you can afford them, horn worms, pheonix worms, and silk worms are great, but you have to buy them on line. Are you making sure the crix are no bigger than the space between her eyes?
What are you using for substrate?
Paper towel, the crickets seemed pretty big to me but I spoke to the breeder and he assured me she can handle them and as soon as I hung up she chowed one down(the only one).
Ive had her since last night 7pm.
Ill try to get a temp gun, I have something like this(http://www.petco.com/product/8193/PETCO-Thermometer-Humidity-Gauge-Combo-Pak.aspx) for my Tarantulas enclosures is that any better than the one I got? I have one of those simple ones that you hang on the wall.
Ive had her since last night 7pm.
Ill try to get a temp gun, I have something like this(http://www.petco.com/product/8193/PETCO-Thermometer-Humidity-Gauge-Combo-Pak.aspx) for my Tarantulas enclosures is that any better than the one I got? I have one of those simple ones that you hang on the wall.
I tossed 2 crix in her enclosure at around 8PM (had to run errands before, I got 500 crickets today. I hate them I use gloves and tweezers, takes me 30 mins to grab 5 but idc).
Like I said, she ate one and the other is just chilling there, Im gonna take the other one out (omg ) before I turn off her lights.
Like I said, she ate one and the other is just chilling there, Im gonna take the other one out (omg
) before I turn off her lights.
rosebud945
New member
Those therms are okay for some animals/creatures, but they just aren't accurate enough for beardies. If you are reading the temp from the side of the tank, then you do not want it to get to 105. The basking temps need to be measured directly from the basking surface. The hot side of the tank should stay in the upper 80s/low 90s.
If she hasn't eaten more than two crix, then she might be getting dehydrated. Try soaking her in a shallow warm bath, no deeper than her arm pits, and see if she will drink or poop. let her soak for 10-15 minutes, then be sure to keep a shallow dish of water in the viv. For babies, I keep it at the cool end so that it doesn't raise the viv humidity.
If she doesn't start eating better by tomorrow, you might need to hand feed. I use soy yogurt with rescues, and it works great. If you can't find that, then you can get baby food chicken and veggies, or baby food banana or fruit and BF chicken and mix them. You would just put a dab on the front of her nose to start and she will probably lick it off. Then try another.
She should be consuming between 30-50 wsmall crix a day, so we need to get those temps straightened out and get her to eat soon!
Are you feeding the crix?
If she hasn't eaten more than two crix, then she might be getting dehydrated. Try soaking her in a shallow warm bath, no deeper than her arm pits, and see if she will drink or poop. let her soak for 10-15 minutes, then be sure to keep a shallow dish of water in the viv. For babies, I keep it at the cool end so that it doesn't raise the viv humidity.
If she doesn't start eating better by tomorrow, you might need to hand feed. I use soy yogurt with rescues, and it works great. If you can't find that, then you can get baby food chicken and veggies, or baby food banana or fruit and BF chicken and mix them. You would just put a dab on the front of her nose to start and she will probably lick it off. Then try another.
She should be consuming between 30-50 wsmall crix a day, so we need to get those temps straightened out and get her to eat soon!
Are you feeding the crix?
I was trying to feed her crickets but I go 1 by 1 cause I dont want to have to take 15 of them out at the same time, she ate that 1 and the other is still running around and eating her salad.
Im gonna try giving her a bath tomorrow and if she doesnt eat the salad or any crickets tomorrow ill try the baby food.
Ill try to get a proper thermometer for her tomorrow. I placed the one I have in 2 spots to get the readings. 1 on the paper towel right next to her rock and the other on her rock in her basking area.
The rock said 103-104 and the paper towel was a few degrees lower, the other end of the tank is at around 80.
Thanks a lot for the replies! Really helpful.
Im gonna try giving her a bath tomorrow and if she doesnt eat the salad or any crickets tomorrow ill try the baby food.
Ill try to get a proper thermometer for her tomorrow. I placed the one I have in 2 spots to get the readings. 1 on the paper towel right next to her rock and the other on her rock in her basking area.
The rock said 103-104 and the paper towel was a few degrees lower, the other end of the tank is at around 80.
Thanks a lot for the replies! Really helpful.
rosebud945
New member
Sometimes putting several crix in there gets them eating because of the movement. I understand your crix phobia. I have so darned many lizards that I need to start raising roaches, and I am a southern girl! We grow up with flying tree roaches and are taught to loath and fear them! :laugh: Crix are nothing compared to a 2-3 inch flying roach! 
But putting more in at a time for your little girl might be necessary to get her to eat.
Please update this thread tomorrow. Let us know how she is doing!
But putting more in at a time for your little girl might be necessary to get her to eat. Please update this thread tomorrow. Let us know how she is doing!
Ill keep the topic updated for sure!
I was also thinking of perhaps getting superworms or some sort of worm instead of the roaches since theyre waaay easier to pick up with the tweezers and deffiently no noise. My only worry would be that they turn to beetles( gross) but ive been reading that they dont turn if theres many of them and that theyd need to be seperate to pupate or w/e
Theyre listed as an Ocasional food and not a Staple here: http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html
nyworms.com has 100 for $20. Not bad I think...
Obiously I dont want to breed them because theyd have to turn into beetles for that ughh.
Does anyone know of a good place to buy silkworms for cheap?
I was also thinking of perhaps getting superworms or some sort of worm instead of the roaches since theyre waaay easier to pick up with the tweezers and deffiently no noise. My only worry would be that they turn to beetles( gross) but ive been reading that they dont turn if theres many of them and that theyd need to be seperate to pupate or w/e
Theyre listed as an Ocasional food and not a Staple here: http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html
nyworms.com has 100 for $20. Not bad I think...
Obiously I dont want to breed them because theyd have to turn into beetles for that ughh.
Does anyone know of a good place to buy silkworms for cheap?
http://www.komodoreptiles.com/ this guy has really good prices for several worms too!
100 Silkworms for $17 doesnt sound bad to me either... and those are listed as Staple in the nutrition table!
Is my beardie big enough for them though?
Id much rather have worms than multiple legged thingies, i'd rather hold my 10'' Lasiodora Parahybana tarantula instead of a cricket theyre so gross.
100 Silkworms for $17 doesnt sound bad to me either... and those are listed as Staple in the nutrition table!
Is my beardie big enough for them though?
Id much rather have worms than multiple legged thingies, i'd rather hold my 10'' Lasiodora Parahybana tarantula instead of a cricket theyre so gross.
rosebud945
New member
I would hold off on supers until she is older. You should wait until she is at least 6-8 inches nose to vent before you feed supers because they can cause impaction.
If you are willing to buy worms online, the silks, horns and phoenix worms are your best choice. I buy mine from
www.mulberryfarms.com
If you get phoenix worms, get the large, because they are small. The horns are clingy, so they can be a little more icky if you hate bugs that much. They are tomato worms.
I think if you have trouble getting her to eat right now, the worms will be a good idea along with the crix. Then you can feed mostly crix when she gets good and settled.
You know you can also put her in a medium sized rubbermaid container just to feed her the bugs. Then you don't really have to touch them. You can just shake them to one corner and pour them back in the circket container. I have a sub adult rescue, and I have trained him to eat crix from a jar! I just hold it and he sticks his head in there and picks off as many crix as he wants!
If you are willing to buy worms online, the silks, horns and phoenix worms are your best choice. I buy mine from
www.mulberryfarms.com
If you get phoenix worms, get the large, because they are small. The horns are clingy, so they can be a little more icky if you hate bugs that much. They are tomato worms.
I think if you have trouble getting her to eat right now, the worms will be a good idea along with the crix. Then you can feed mostly crix when she gets good and settled.
You know you can also put her in a medium sized rubbermaid container just to feed her the bugs. Then you don't really have to touch them. You can just shake them to one corner and pour them back in the circket container. I have a sub adult rescue, and I have trained him to eat crix from a jar! I just hold it and he sticks his head in there and picks off as many crix as he wants!
Awesome silkworm prices here too http://www.mulberryfarms.com/.
As soon as I can confirm that silkworms can replace the crickets in their diets im sold.
Oh yeah and that moth thing, deffinetly dont want those around.
As soon as I can confirm that silkworms can replace the crickets in their diets im sold.
Oh yeah and that moth thing, deffinetly dont want those around.
rosebud945
New member
It takes awhile for small silks to grow into moths, but you know they spin cocoons first and the moths are flightless. They are quite pretty moths. They look like silk to me.
You can replace the crix with the right kind of worms, but it will cost you a fortune while you are raising a baby. People generally use the crix and roaches as staple feeders because babies need to eat so much. It is also a good idea with mix it up with feeders, so I would suggest just supplementing the crix with worms. When I have babies and juvies, I feed mostly crix in a separate container or from a jar 2-3 times a day, and let them eat all they can in 10 minutes or so. That way you don't have to pull crix at night. Then I buy worms about once a month, and they get those for one feeding per day until they're gone.
You can replace the crix with the right kind of worms, but it will cost you a fortune while you are raising a baby. People generally use the crix and roaches as staple feeders because babies need to eat so much. It is also a good idea with mix it up with feeders, so I would suggest just supplementing the crix with worms. When I have babies and juvies, I feed mostly crix in a separate container or from a jar 2-3 times a day, and let them eat all they can in 10 minutes or so. That way you don't have to pull crix at night. Then I buy worms about once a month, and they get those for one feeding per day until they're gone.
rosebud945
New member
Isn't that the link I gave you?