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Hypo x Cay Caulker

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I know that poeple have crossed Hog Island and hypos to make sunsets, but has anyone tried Cay Cualkers and a hypo to see what would happen. :shrug01:
 
vemon2000 said:
I know that poeple have crossed Hog Island and hypos to make sunsets, but has anyone tried Cay Cualkers and a hypo to see what would happen. :shrug01:
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Mutts :NoNo:
 
I don't think so and I hope they don't do it.
People should be trying to preserve the animals lineage and not mess it up by creating mutts.
 
Guess the answer you got on KS wasnt good enough ?
All BS aside ...... why would the thought even cross the table ? Can you honestly explain why you posted such a question ?Im just trying to understand personally.But shareing may enlighten others as to . . . . . . .

M/
 
Stop mixing animals! KEEP THEM PURE! Darn it!

Caulker cays are hard enough to find. we dont need to start finding mixed blood animals causing others to not know what theyre buying!
 
I think that cross would very nice looking. Especially the F2 or F3 lineage.
 
although it is important to keep a line pure for the diversity of the species
i think that mixed breeds happen naturally in the wild as well .
human curiousity is always going to win over with time .
what happens in captive breeding is highly unlikely to happen in the wild ,if that may be part of the arguement ,but i understand the want or need for some enthusiasts to have a representative of the wild line
what we can do as enthusiasts is try to prevent the deforestation of the natural habitat of these animals instead of trying to keep the line pure in captivity.
contact represenatives who actually have some pull to affect a change in this loss .So we can satisfy our curiousity of mixing breeds and also admire the pure for what they are.
just my thought
take it for what it is ,an opinion
Eric
 
I find it highly unlikely a Cay Caulker would interbreed with a Columbian in the wild....These animals have developed seperately on the islands for who knows how long... And I think part of the point (maybe most of the point for some) is that a generation or two down the road, how is the animal going to be represented and sold? I doubt you'd want to buy an animal being sold as pure Cay when it's really only 75%...and even if you didn't care (but didn't know) and bred it with another Cay and sold the babies as pure (because you in good faith thought they were) to someone else...etc... etc....
 
Do what makes you happy but make sure, as others have pointed out, make sure you sell them correctly. You will always have purist and then you have others who enjoy crossing the species. No matter what you won't please them all. Do what you want but do it honestly.

Griz
 
Griz said:
Do what makes you happy but make sure, as others have pointed out, make sure you sell them correctly. You will always have purist and then you have others who enjoy crossing the species. No matter what you won't please them all. Do what you want but do it honestly.

Griz
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Put very well Griz! :iagree:
 
OrganicBoas said:
I find it highly unlikely a Cay Caulker would interbreed with a Columbian in the wild....These animals have developed seperately on the islands for who knows how long...
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I was going to say this as well. It is not natural in this instance.
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Metachrosis

Metachrosis said:
Guess the answer you got on KS wasnt good enough ?
All BS aside ...... why would the thought even cross the table ? Can you honestly explain why you posted such a question ?Im just trying to understand personally.But shareing may enlighten others as to . . . . . . .

M/
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For starters I didn’t know that you were in charge of deciding for me what I can post and where I can post it. Next, the thought crossed my mind because people have crossed the Hoggs and I was curious if any one has crossed a Cay Caulkers (havn't seen any). If you didn’t know before METACHROSIS that is what these web sites are for, asking questions, so we don’t mess up things. So just personally for you this is why I asked this question, I hope that's OK with you. :angry:
 
vemon2000 said:
For starters I didn’t know that you were in charge of deciding for me what I can post and where I can post it. Next, the thought crossed my mind because people have crossed the Hoggs and I was curious if any one has crossed a Cay Caulkers (havn't seen any). If you didn’t know before METACHROSIS that is what these web sites are for, asking questions, so we don’t mess up things. So just personally for you this is why I asked this question, I hope that's OK with you. :angry:
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Dont worry about that, asking questions is always a good thing. And while youll get some negative response to ideas such as this, that shouldn't refrain you from asking anyway and learning. Thats what this place is about. ^_-
 
It's not about the first generation. It's about DOWN THE ROAD. When a female gives birth it's usually not to just one or two, the problem multiplies exponentially as the generations continue and different people get their hands on them. You can speak for yourself, but can you speak for the 10 or 20 people who get their hands on the crosses? And then when/if they breed them the 100-200?? Look past your immediate wishes down the road a bit.
 
While I can't totally set aside my opinion on the matter, I will try to see past it for the time being. Both of those snakes are officially BCI...which is to say that they are essentially the same. Same genus. Same species. Same subspecies. Very different in appearance, however. Very different in size, as well.
Looking at your question theoretically, certainly the size difference would present some intesting issues, even with the initial breeding. even a first time breeder (young) hypo male would probably be larger than most breeder female Caulkers. And the image of a male caulker courting, and attempting to copulate with, an adult female hypo is just amusing. Sure, if he was persistent, he could probably manage...if he didn't get squashed in the process. Say the coupling was successful - would the offspring be dwarf boas...full size...or somewhere in between? Might there be significant size differences between various siblings? If a female caulker was used, what would be the impact on her?
As for appearance, I don't think they would be anything special. The "naturally anerythristic" appearance of many caulkers would probably not carry over significantly (though I could certainly be mistaken on that); and it is questionable whether or not subsequent breedings would show that it is similar to other anery boas...which is to say that it is a simple recessive trait that can be passed along (although with insular species, the concept of such a recessive trait being so visibly prevalent is certainly not all that farfetched).


ok - I bit my tongue that whole time, and I am going to post this before I screw up and interject personal comment
 
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