Bad Guy I GOT SCAMMED!!! By Randy Gilkerson (lilroc338) of Gilroc Reptiles!!! BEWARE!!

[tikigator]

Is this your Bee in his profile pic Laura?

http://www.facebook.com/Gilroc.reptiles#!/media/set/?set=a.104179889673578.9236.100002447027306

NO this is not my bee....he did not have dark markings on the top of his head like that. Here is a photo of my bee:

 

[rjjp]

wow!! some people are not that bright!! man up and admit you screwed this woman without even touching her!! send her snake back!! you was even talked about in cincy today at the cin city reptile show! save what dignity you have left and do the right thing!

 

[lilroc338]

Wow thats funny I was at the show all day long.you a**..
Now I do have the vet bill,an I have few pics that will put the case to rest
Some please tell me how to upload them thanks
Now to franks wife..frank ship me an enchi male,an I told him that
I got a snake that u bought an that I think Had RI...so he called fedex
An had the snake return...so how do I own you money?
You need not to talk for your man, but let him talk for him self
Thats if he got a back bone..all by the way why did Ben take him off his friends list???
Please tell us all...please why you try to bash mine name
As soon as someone can tell me how to upload pics..
Say tune....

 

[tikigator]

Wow this so not true....first off I have sold a few snakes on here, ive sold a super pastel.an it was female, an thats what he got..an he was so happy with his female, he text me an ask me ,if I had anything more I wanted to sale...Now that was a female black pastel,an if you ask her she will tell you she has a few black pastels......an the one shes putting up is not the one I sent to her...This is Bs..i bought 15 snakes off a breeder here in ohio he gave me good deal on them to get me started.the ones that I didnt need or want I sold...so ask your self this.if you sold a snake to some one, an when they get it, they text you an say hey this is not a female..an you know for sure it is.so then she sends me a pic, an when you look at the pic, you know it aint the one that you sent her..now what, im gonna take a loss NOT.......i have never had this happen before..this is so wrong for you people to bad name me on her world...an yes I ve change the name on facebook an stands for me an my sons name...so I hope every one reads this with an open mind, an a understand heart
Have a good sun day people

Wow Randy way to defend yourself. FIRST off, if anyone asks me I have TWO black pastels...one is this one:

Which I bought from Mike Bell (that is actually the pic off of his website) and here is the receipt/bill of sale Mike gave me for that black pastel het albino:



So that is one black pastel that I have....the other is the one that YOU, RANDY, sent me. I do NOT have ANY other black pastels in my collection. I have proof that I purchased the black pastel het albino back in July from Mike...why on EARTH would I want to switch him?? He is 100% het albino...I'd be a FOOL to switch him!!

Secondly, Frank and his wife Rachel CONFIRMED that YOU BOUGHT the black pastel male that was pictured on their facebook page. If YOU bought that snake, then I would just LOVE to know how it ended up IN MY HAND.

Also, I TOLD you go send the bee back. If it was sick with a URI you should have called me IMMEDIATELY and sent the snake back....which is what I would have done had I received a snake with a URI...rather than #1 go spend money on vet bills and more importantly #2 risk infecting my entire collection. I also asked you to show me the vet bill, which you couldn't produce. That bee was FINE when he left my house. And do you know how I can prove that? Because I have a quarantine room with 3 snakes in it that currently have URIs....and they are all being treated. And I DO have vet bills to show you that they have been on THREE different antibiotics, cultures have been ran, and they are being nebulized....IF ANY of my snakes were sick I would be TREATING them IMMEDIATELY because I CARE about my animals. Not only do I care GREATLY about my reputation, but I care about my animals and I absolutely 100% would have not sent a sick snake, nor would I not treat a sick snake! The bee, and everyone else in my snake room is 100% FINE. I don't believe you for a second that the bee was sick and IF in some way he DID get too cold and got wheezy during transit I told you I was sorry that happened it was out of my control and that I would be happy to take him back...what else could I possibly offer to do???? And THEN I also asked you to take a picture of the snake you bought from Frank...which you also couldn't do...why? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE HIM! He's at MY house!

Just so everyone is clear, I keep VERY close track of my snakes, ALL OF MY SNAKES (that would be every single snake I own) is on my collection on iHerp. FEEL FREE to check ALL tracking....you will see the ones that have URIs and what they have been treated withl. You will see when EVERY ONE of my snakes has shed, eaten, including the bee. (and I did send that tracking information to Randy) Feel free to look me up on iHerp, Tikigator. I WELCOME you all to see the records I keep on my snakes.

I seriously cannot believe you are going to sit here and ask people to read that with an "open mind and heart" REALLY RANDY?? And not to "bad name you on MY word"?? It's not my WORD Randy...it's PHOTOS and text messages and proof from the seller whom you BOUGHT the male black pastel from!

Wow, I think I am on awhole nother playing field. You are playing the game of "man people should believe me cause I said that ain't the snake i sent" well guess what Randy that's asking people to believe you on YOUR word.....and quite frankly your "WORD" is NOT credible!

One word: Unbelievable.

 

[Alex G]

Wow thats funny I was at the show all day long.you a**..
Now I do have the vet bill,an I have few pics that will put the case to rest
Some please tell me how to upload them thanks
Now to franks wife..frank ship me an enchi male,an I told him that
I got a snake that u bought an that I think Had RI...so he called fedex
An had the snake return...so how do I own you money?
You need not to talk for your man, but let him talk for him self
Thats if he got a back bone..all by the way why did Ben take him off his friends list???
Please tell us all...please why you try to bash mine name
As soon as someone can tell me how to upload pics..
Say tune....

Notice you aren't even making an effort to explain away how she has a snake that was on YOUR facebook photos. Because you can't. If you're dissatisfied with the GD bee then send it back and have her send back your underweight male But you won't do that, because you know you had every intention to scam this poor woman, right? Good freaking luck surviving in this hobby with business "ethics" like this, I guarantee anyone who's anyone will read up on this before buying OR selling to you.

 

[tikigator]

Wow thats funny I was at the show all day long.you a**..
Now I do have the vet bill,an I have few pics that will put the case to rest
Some please tell me how to upload them thanks
Now to franks wife..frank ship me an enchi male,an I told him that
I got a snake that u bought an that I think Had RI...so he called fedex
An had the snake return...so how do I own you money?
You need not to talk for your man, but let him talk for him self
Thats if he got a back bone..all by the way why did Ben take him off his friends list???
Please tell us all...please why you try to bash mine name
As soon as someone can tell me how to upload pics..
Say tune....

Apparently every snake you get you claim has a URI. If that was the case then why didn't you send my bee back??? I am NOT denying the snake arrived wheezing, but I am GUARANTEEING to you that the bee left my home HEALTHY with ZERO signs of ANY illness.

And don't jump on Rachel she is not speaking for her man she is speaking on behalf of HERSELF and their BUSINESS because she does the shipping! And no Randy it will NOT put the case to rest. YOU SCAMMED ME, remember?? Or were you hoping by producing a vet bill for my bee that magically people would forget you lied and committed FRAUD?

 

[Necoco]

Very beautiful bee,i hope you get him back. ):

Man up and stop acting like a child Randy. Are you seriously that hard up for money that you'd stoop this low as to screw her out of her snake? As Laura had stated earlier,if it had been the same size snake i would've been more inclined to believe that this was a mere mix up,but the fact that's it's so much smaller and has the same exact markings as the one you purchased from Frank is evidence enough. I'm admittedly not the smartest person in the world but even i can see what's going on here.

 

[xxMKxx]

Randy - so this woman would go through this much trouble to scam you outta what? 200 bucks? This much time and effort into just this thread alone. I'm sure she spending more time spreading the word other places as well.
And even so, if she's lying at all, even a little bit, send the GD snake back to avoid all this. I can't help but think if you were actually telling the truth and I was in your shoes I'd send that thing back asap, just to rid myself of someone that crazy.
It doesn't make any sense bro, you downright ripped her off.

And what does you being at the reptile show have to do with calling someone an a** because they said you were all the talk there. I'm willing to bet if you were as dumb looking as you type and they recognized ya, you'd got beat badly.

Send this poor woman her animal back!!

 

[BrooklynJoe]

Just pointing out the plenty grammatical errors, and double posting of quick his reply's in other threads alerts me of scamming. This is exactly why I do not do business with people who haven't been members since '09 or early, or trader ratings of 2 or higher. Geez, this sucks and makes me so skeptical of folks and doing business

 

[laterob]

Wow thats funny I was at the show all day long.you a**..
Now I do have the vet bill,an I have few pics that will put the case to rest
Some please tell me how to upload them thanks
Now to franks wife..frank ship me an enchi male,an I told him that
I got a snake that u bought an that I think Had RI...so he called fedex
An had the snake return...so how do I own you money?
You need not to talk for your man, but let him talk for him self
Thats if he got a back bone..all by the way why did Ben take him off his friends list???
Please tell us all...please why you try to bash mine name
As soon as someone can tell me how to upload pics..
Say tune....

Ahhh, yes, it's the old "I know you are, but what am I" defense. Well done, Randy. You are making yourself look better with each and every post. Oh, and she doesn't need to 'bash your name'.....you've done a great job of that all by yourself.

Make this right, or go away.

 

[Focal]

Return the snake!!

 

[MorphMenagerie]

I wish there was a "like" button on people's posts bc there are too many valid points here! Laura, I feel like maybe you should pursue with an attorney I feel like this guy needs to learn a lesson. I hope your doing ok, your a great person and I know this crap he's putting you through is taking a toll. Keep us posted, sorry again!

 

[CRHerps]

Well as of right now it looks like its not going so well. Why don't we all chip in like $5-$10 and help her out towards another male bumblebee.

 

[xxMKxx]

Well as of right now it looks like its not going so well. Why don't we all chip in like $5-$10 and help her out towards another male bumblebee.

Oh heck yes!! I'm game if enough people are in. For sure!

 

[Necoco]

If i didn't just spend all my paycheck on rodents i would definitely pitch in as well. =)

 

[bullies&balls]

It would be better and more fun to have all the gus here local he has scammed and ran his mouth at to go to his FACILITY and ASK POLITLY for her snake back, along with the others he scammed, like the pair of DH albino pieds LOL

 

[tikigator]

Well as of right now it looks like its not going so well. Why don't we all chip in like $5-$10 and help her out towards another male bumblebee.

Oh my goodness I am VERY grateful for people being so incredibly kind and wanting to help me out but seriously guys, and I am mean this, it is not necessary. I do GREATLY appreciate the thought...and a couple of you have PMed me offering to send me bumble bees. But please let me remind you that if I needed a male I would not have traded mine. I am not in need of a male bee...so I would feel totally wrong accepting one from someone and then having to turn around and sell/trade it.

It's not about the fact he has my bumble bee morph, it's the fact that he has one of my snakes that I did care about and wanted to see go to a GOOD RESPONSIBLE home. And the fact I needed a FEMALE to add to my collection.

I really appreciate the offer but money is tight for everyone I would much rather everyone just spread the word to keep others from being scammed by Randy. He's not going to send the bee back, I just really really hope he will take good care of him, or if he does end up selling him or trading him that the bee goes to a really good home that will appropriately care for him.

But please don't turn this into a charity case....because I didn't post this for people to feel sorry for me. Not at ALL. I don't want people's sympathy beause I was a fool and trusted someone I should not have....although I do appreciate everyone's support...I didn't do this for people to feel sorry for me I did this to call him out and warn everyone about him.

I almost got scammed a week or so ago by someone trying to trade me a pied female and thankfully Dennis posted the link in the add to the BOI and I found out he was trying to scam a few of us and THANKFULLY I found out in time. So if this thread can prevent ANYONE from getting scammed by Randy then I achieved my goal. He just infuriates me.

 

[CRHerps]

Hey Laura, Its not that I was feeling bad for you. Its that I was trying to help out and that we as herp keepers and breeders should remain to stay as a close group and not have to fight for everything on our own.

 

[tikigator]

Hey Laura, Its not that I was feeling bad for you. Its that I was trying to help out and that we as herp keepers and breeders should remain to stay as a close group and not have to fight for everything on our own.

And greatly appreciate the joined forces I have no problem bringing the bad guys down...I wish there was a way to kick him off fauna for good. He'll probably just come up with a new name. Hopefully people will catch on though and keep everyone posted.

 

[lilroc338]

It would be better and more fun to have all the gus here local he has scammed and ran his mouth at to go to his FACILITY and ASK POLITLY for her snake back, along with the others he scammed, like the pair of DH albino pieds LOL

Lol you crack me up, come on down ill pay for dinner,
Or I can come to your house an pick you up..you still in newark,
Un that little dog house?