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Here's a twist that I find especially amusing, and it demonstrates dishonesty on Pat's part.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Jake_jecekl6-Is Jake Johnson it was his spider too!!! </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This is the third name that Pat has referred to him by during the past month.

In the "snow boas" thread in the for sale section, Pat refers to him as Brian, coinciding with his signature.

In the spider ball ad that Pat posted last month, he refers to this person as Josh.

Then there's the inconsistency of age. In the spider thread, it was asserted that this individual was 25, but then there's the little matter of Brian/Jake/Josh's claim that he went to high school with Pat's father. From this, it can be reasoned that Pat's father was either the oldest student I've ever heard of, or 11 at the time that Pat was born.

No matter which way you look at it, both of these characters have tied the noose 'round their own necks. What's comical about it, is that they keep on tightening the knots.

As an aside, it seems that the subject(s) of this thread learned everything they know about honesty and integrity from the likes of Jesse Underhill. There's a saying in law enforcement: "We only catch the dumb ones."
 
You right if i didn't lie about there age or there names like they asked me to i can see where that comes from too, i wouldn't be here now would i? I should of just stayed out of everything but Pat was an honest caring person, now hes still the same just in a hole, I put in my request with Webslave buh o wait c ya o dam it, umm c ya lat8r, o thats it 4 u.
bye and c ya good luck and umm when Jake's still here have fun.
 
OK this reply is for you Jake_jecekl6.

SFE means Stupid Feeding Error.
It is ENGLISH not German. Ever hear of a thing called an acronym?

Your signature says "small breeder, dealer, and trader". Is that so, and you have NEVER heard of a stupid feeding error? That is the number one cause of problems that people have when keeping large boids (you do know what boids are right?) in captivity.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You right if i didn't lie about there age or there names like they asked me to i can see where that comes from too, i wouldn't be here now would i? I should of just stayed out of everything but Pat was an honest caring person, now hes still the same just in a hole, I put in my request with Webslave buh o wait c ya o dam it, umm c ya lat8r, o thats it 4 u.
bye and c ya good luck and umm when Jake's still here have fun.

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Patrick Malloy</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I think you forgot who you were logged in as when you posted this. Unless you like to refer to yourself in a "third person" kinda way.
 
Patrick's reply in the snow boas add
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 Posted: Nov. 02 2002,23:29    

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First off, if i could afford expensive animals would i be dealiing with digital camera problems hel* no i would sell one and buy a new one and as for expensive animals my parents have said all i am bale to keep are my carpets and Balls and other things under 9 ft, as for being expensive look at what these big places and then tell me whats expensive yea um RDR has a  25 thousand $ animals that few have seen and yet not one of us would think twice about buying it providing we had the money. My Aunt bought these at a swap which if i remember what she told me was Lees and that what i have been putting down too. She got them from a regualr there in 99 i think?? She had all his info but when she passed none of us could find any of this, so i have no papers and she told me various times on the phone they where hets and would when i would go over there show me the papers form P.K. , and the snows same thing excpet lets see its a morph no papers! I would of been more the happy to give anyone who got these a deal such as if they turned out not to be het i would trad eo rbuy them back plu sreimburse you for food and time but no!! Hes 14 and his word means nothing all because we chose a long time ago it ment nothing, Also, telocity doesn't as there are 5 or so computer under the roof all with the smae ip? umm i wonder?? Im gone i have better things to do that must be done also how does the fact that if we went to those two hospitals the cost would of been much higher?? Well, and considering i didn't pass out and was breathing still we could taken just a little longer not much tho...........

FIND A NEW WHIPPING BOY THIS ONES GONE!!!!
O AND GOOD LUCK WITH JAKE!!!! HAVE LOTS OF FUN AND LETS SEE WHERE WILL ALL THOSE STOLEN SNAKES GO WHEN THE POLICE SEARHC HIS HOUSE HIS BASEMENT?? YEA SURE..............

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, telocity doesn't as there are 5 or so computer under the roof all with the smae ip? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Hey Patrick
Yes all the computers in your house can have the same IP.
But they should not have the same IP as Jakes aka Brian?


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">O AND GOOD LUCK WITH JAKE!!!! HAVE LOTS OF FUN AND LETS SEE WHERE WILL ALL THOSE STOLEN SNAKES GO WHEN THE POLICE SEARHC HIS HOUSE HIS BASEMENT?? YEA SURE..............</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>So Now his name is Jake.  And you know he has stolen snakes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">FIND A NEW WHIPPING BOY THIS ONES GONE!!!!
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Patrick where are you going?  No one was making you a whipping boy ....until of course we caught you in lies.  And in a scam...and now you wanna cry the poor me I am a whipping boy.


Patrick Maloy(if that is even his real name) is bad to deal with .

1.  He lies about peoples names.
2.  He pretends to go to the hospital.
3.  He lied to the hospital about having a snake larger than 9 feet.
4.  He knows his friend has stolen snakes.
5.  He tries to sell his friends stolen snakes.
6.  He has the same IP number as this pretend friend that has stolen snakes.
7.  He threatened his pretend friend to go through with their deal or "everyone will find out"  find out that he was keeping stolen snakes and Patrick was trying to sell them.
 
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Jake/Josh/Brian or whatever your name is today.

You asked me what now?

Now we know you lied about your name.
Now we know you have stolen snakes.
Now we know you lied about patrick being in the hospital.....since you can't name the hospital.
We also know you and Patrick have the same IP number.
We also know you two are running a scam.

And you wanted to ask what now?  Whoopsy.
You should have known better than to egg me on with your what now comment.

you should know the truth will always come out in the end.
 
Ritchie,

Have you find out the address for this guy(s) already? It would not be nice to find out people sending snakes and/or money in that direction.

Best regards,

Daniel
 
"Hey Patrick
Yes all the computers in your house can have the same IP.
But they should not have the same IP as Jakes aka Brian?"

But there unique??

Yes my name Is Pat Malloy yes i am 14 yes i was born on 3/31/88.


"So Now his name is Jake.  And you know he has stolen snakes."

This is very possible as i don't see how his job can afford an crappy house but yet still have albinos etc.

"Have you find out the address for this guy(s) already? It would not be nice to find out people sending snakes and/or money in that direction.'

Hey heres my add.'s
565 east benton
Aurora Il
60505

and
204 west main st
Yorkiville, Il
60560

now thats because my parents are divorced.
But everything is sent to Yorkville as its illegal in Aurora (i recently found it it is)


"We also know you two are running a scam."

Sure i am running a scam with 95$ carpets yea Ritchie o and rtb's and 1 snow boas which for all you who won't belive me ask ill get pictures but now my mom says everything that will get over 9ft has to go, and umm lets see everything i own will be at Lees on the sunday swap either real early, or real late.

"Patrick where are you going?  No one was making you a whipping boy ....until of course we caught you in lies.  And in a scam...and now you wanna cry the poor me I am a whipping boy."

I am going to be getting out of this whole internet crap before something does go wrong in a trade and howcome you people are the only ones having problems with me?? Everyone i have delat with hasn't had any problems that (very important) weren't sloved in the end.1.  He lies about peoples names.
"1.  He lies about peoples names.
Yes i did i was asked to and i could see why so i did.
2.  He pretends to go to the hospital.
Bull Ritchie then why am i selling what matter to me to help pay the bills??
3.  He lied to the hospital about having a snake larger than 9 feet.
Yes what are you nuts??
4.  He knows his friend has stolen snakes.
Its very possible
5.  He tries to sell his friends stolen snakes.
Nope, not once the only thing of his he asked me to sell was that spider.
6.  He has the same IP number as this pretend friend that has stolen snakes.
So.....Pretend friend sure..just as pretend you exsisting
7.  He threatened his pretend friend to go through with their deal or "everyone will find out"  find out that he was keeping stolen snakes and Patrick was trying to sell them."
No i wasn't selling anything actually we had a deal and he didn't finish until a week ago....Well if i where trying to sell them um lets see would i put them online? If i was for sure they where stolen, o and wait a sec. in my stuff for sale i bought a pastel fo 600$ i knew it was stolen and put it here and all the real owner had to do was describe it to me or send a pic of it? Now owuld an so called unhonest person do that? NO, i don't think so.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am going to be getting out of this whole internet crap before something does go wrong in a trade and how come you people are the only ones having problems with me??
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Patrick,

At least at this point I don’t have a problem with you.

But you keep dodging one question which, believe me, it is very important.

Where did you buy your axhantic from? Is it from a proven line? Can we contact the original breeder?

All this thread started by you asking for a female albino loan to breed to your axhantic. All I want to know is if you actually own a true axhantic and if you are worthy of receiving a $4,000 breeding loan.

Even if your axhantic was a normal ball python, you will be selling 100% heterozygous for albino once you breed him to the albino female. Let me see...maybe 3 heterozygous pairs (6 babies) at $800 a pair...Isn't that a win-win situation for you or what? See where I'm coming from?

Best regards,
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">5.  He tries to sell his friends stolen snakes.
Nope, not once the only thing of his he asked me to sell was that spider.
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Not once?
and in the same sentence you admit to trying to sell his spider ball.

Hello does brains run in your family?
YOu admit your guilt and deny it in the same sentence.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2.  He pretends to go to the hospital.
Bull Ritchie then why am i selling what matter to me to help pay the bills??
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If you went to the hospital...then how come you can't tell us which one.


And as for the question why you are selling?  Because you said so yourself.  Your mommy told you to sell.


Patrick get your story straight before you try lying.
Go rehearse in front of a mirror.  Try not to type two conflicting things in one paragraph...better yet try not to type two conflicting things in one sentence.
Another scammer gone.

GOOD BYE
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am going to be getting out of this whole internet crap before something does go wrong in a trade </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
correction:
your getting out because you have been caught lying so many times.

If you can lie about your friends name.
If you can try to sell his thousands of dollars worth of imaginary spider ball.
If you can lie to the hospital

What makes us think you are not lying to us in a deal.

You have proven yourself to be a lier over and over again.
 
"your getting out because you have been caught lying so many times."
Sure.........

If you can lie to the hospital

So can you its very easy....and don't pretend like you have neve rlied and i am not now so don't try it

What makes us think you are not lying to us in a deal.
I don't 90% of the time i will ship first in a trade


You have proven yourself to be a lier over and over again.
Ok, i lied once so can't trust me understandable, but i don't care and until webslave cancels my account ill still be here
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, i lied once so can't trust me understandable, but i don't care and until webslave cancels my account ill still be here </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

Once, Pat? More like multiple times. It seems as if every reply from you contains a new lie, or a variation of an old one.

Also, I said it before, and I'll say it again... why should Rich be responsible for your actions?
 
I don't feel he should be responsible, where did you come up with that one ken??

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave... "

No..........u have yet 2 tangle me yet.................as i admitted to where i lied and corrected my others ex: spider, hey but ui can see where each and every one of you are comming from which is why i requested that my account be canceled as i feel that if i stay here i will ship first and will be screwed over and no one will listen to me. just as before i have all his stuff still, good luck dealing with your problems just don't make anymistakes or listen t people if they ask you to sell anything for them, or lie for them hel* at least i learned something, but se any of you late in the future if you are in Illinois stop by my table with a buddy of mine that everyone knows and has dealt with including me!!
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't 90% of the time i will ship first in a trade
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Okay you got two people looking to get your snow boa.
One of them is Jason B.  the other is  Justin H.
I recommend both of these gentlemen.
They know if they screw you over that I would rake them over the coals.
They know I would hound them to the ends of the earth...and they would never hear the end of it.

So why don't you go ahead and ship your pretend snow boa to one of these gentlemen.
I will even pay for shipping (but only through airborne express)

then which ever one of them gets it....he will come back and post on wether it was a real snow boa or not.

Or better yet.  ship it to me.  I can breed your pretend snow boa with a minimum of three females.  And in the process I can make you double your asking price.


The ball is in your court.  Lets see what excuses you can come up with.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> if you are in Illinois stop by my table with a buddy of mine that everyone knows and has dealt </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> So who is this buddy of yours that everyone has dealt with?
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't feel he should be responsible, where did you come up with that one ken??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It's quite simple for you to leave of your own accord, but yet you want to rely on Rich to exclude you.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No..........u have yet 2 tangle me yet.................</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I had a sneaking suspicion that a literary reference would be over your head. "We" does not refer to myself or Ritchie. The full proverb is, "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."- Sir Walter Scott.
 
Why should i tell you? You'll call me a liar and bash me?? Just send a pale of yours to lees around march ok?? Page me when you get there. Patrick Malloy hope you can remember that.

"I had a sneaking suspicion that a literary reference would be over your head. "We" does not refer to myself or Ritchie. The full proverb is, "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."- Sir Walter Scott."

Um lets c u say "we" which indeed does mean you and ritchie or as in all herpers well as you twio are the only.


"so why don't you go ahead and ship your pretend snow boa to one of these gentlemen.
I will even pay for shipping (but only through airborne express)

How about no, as my mom is now asking me to sell my boas to help her out so as Jaosn B. know as he talked to me sat. nite i also told him the same thng except i didn't have a answer yet, Ritchie if you really are so interested in meeting people i know go to Lees i am the only person there at least once a month (rarely only once as a buyer) if not both times people there know me.

Just lay off the (Liar, cheating, scandaling, etc) kid ok, now also isn't selling but no sending a crime? Mail fruad and or grand theft there Ritchie as for u i know that a snow would be grand theft.
 
Patrick,

Why would you bother asking the webslave to cancel your account.  JUST GO AWAY AND DON"T COME BACK.  It's as simple as that.  I don't know how it could be any easier.  Just because you have an account no one is twisting your arm to post the crap that you do.  You bring everything upon yourself, and the fact that you have to ask someone else to revoke your privledges proves you do not have any discipline.  You are addicted to this sort of crap so you want someone else to take the blame. If you don't like people treating you like a spoiled little immature twit, quit acting like one.

Steve Schindler
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Um lets c u say "we" which indeed does mean you and ritchie or as in all herpers well as you twio are the only.
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Much like a neutered dog, you just don't get it. It was rather silly of me to think you'd actualy comprhend the meaning of the proverb.

That aside, how'bout we make it real easy for you to prove you have said snow boa and said axanthic ball python? Post pics of you holding them.

No digital camera, you say? Not a problem! Take the piics with a disposable camera, have the pictures developed at KMart or WalMart (both offer online access to photos), and then post the pics here. If you actually post the requested pics, I will reimburse you for the cost of the disposable camera and film development, as well as an additional $20 for the heck of it.

If you indeed have the snakes, this should be a quick and easy twenty bucks for you.
 
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