Bad Guy I have a problems with Justin

[pete-simmonds]

No

I think you are right, I also see his response to me a threat as well.

Pete are you threatening me?

No I would never do that, but I can already see who harasses and abuse's people.
And has probably been in trouble for it before I am not posting or feeding this any more the bloke was given snakes and said the best and got lot more he says thanks, yet people won't let it die it is going on every they have chance.
So now when I return it will be with factual complete evidence to finish once and for all and leave no doubt in peoples mind who the real crooks our
best wishes post evidence in two days for people to decide.

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[Gregg Madden]

Just need to touch on a few things Pete.

Firstly, do you have a problem with forming proper sentences so people can actually understand what you are getting at?

Secondly, while I am not a huge fan of Justin for certain reasons, I think you digging up and posting on a negative thread that has been dead for a long time is NOT doing Justin any favors. Even if he did not get you to make these posts, it looks as if he did put you up to it. In my opinion, that is an unfair thing to do to Justin. Justin is a big boy with his own voice. He can clearly help himself better than you can ever help him.

Also, there are plenty of hognose breeders producing super high quality hogs that are healthy and look awesome. Many breeders are working with some never seen before morphs. Justin is not the only one producing cool hogs.

No I would never do that, but I can already see who harasses and abuse's people.
And has probably been in trouble for it before I am not posting or feeding this any more the bloke was given snakes and said the best and got lot more he says thanks, yet people won't let it die it is going on every they have chance.
So now when I return it will be with factual complete evidence to finish once and for all and leave no doubt in peoples mind who the real crooks our
best wishes post evidence in two days for people to decide.

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[ophidile]

For someone complaining of "bashing and negativity" you sure do seem quick to try to cut others down, pete.

 

[pete-simmonds]

LOOK WHO IT IS

Just need to touch on a few things Pete.

Firstly, do you have a problem with forming proper sentences so people can actually understand what you are getting at?

Secondly, while I am not a huge fan of Justin for certain reasons, I think you digging up and posting on a negative thread that has been dead for a long time is NOT doing Justin any favors. Even if he did not get you to make these posts, it looks as if he did put you up to it. In my opinion, that is an unfair thing to do to Justin. Justin is a big boy with his own voice. He can clearly help himself better than you can ever help him.

Also, there are plenty of hognose breeders producing super high quality hogs that are healthy and look awesome. Many breeders are working with some never seen before morphs. Justin is not the only one producing cool hogs.

Sorry Greg about my mistake in message no you love to pick people apart I cannot write Mr. mitcham has bipolar what great comments.
You will never stop that's why gone on so long you go everywhere with another member posting all you can.
Happy to post from four sites showing threads these guys are starting, but I am not feeding this thread or digging anything up enough is enough it is sad and silly the extent this has gone to.
And while you say not huge fan biggest under statement you started 20 -30 posts on rfuk plus other forums slaughtering Mr. mitcham you are responsible for all.
you were told on rfuk your posts were for your own good not the members, and you were told to stop bye members.
Again happy to post a link do not contact me. I want nothing to do with you or your side kick and way you both join up are what proves what you are both doing and your right Mr. mitcham can look after self hence legal team now involved good luck no more said.

 

[Gregg Madden]

Sorry Greg about my mistake in message no you love to pick people apart I cannot write Mr. mitcham has bipolar what great comments..

What are you even talking about. Please, proper sentence structure is in order to get your point across.

You will never stop that's why gone on so long you go everywhere with another member posting all you can.

Seriously, when was the last time I mentioned Justin anywhere?

Happy to post from four sites showing threads these guys are starting, but I am not feeding this thread or digging anything up enough is enough it is sad and silly the extent this has gone to.
And while you say not huge fan biggest under statement you started 20 -30 posts on rfuk plus other forums slaughtering Mr. mitcham you are responsible for all..

Please, by all means, post away dude. I have nothing to hide. Sure, I was pissed at Justin for starting A BOI thread about me for something I had nothing to do with. I was warning my friends what might happen to them when they deal with or talk to Justin. At the time, I was pissed. Big deal.

you were told on rfuk your posts were for your own good not the members, and you were told to stop bye members.

Yes, A COUPLE of Justins UK fans stuck up for him. We all have a few fans.

Again happy to post a link do not contact me. I want nothing to do with you or your side kick and way you both join up are what proves what you are both doing and your right Mr. mitcham can look after self hence legal team now involved good luck no more said.

Again, please post away.
Might as well post the messages you wrote to Charlie saying that you are going to lend Justin $30,000 to $50,000 to get a legal team together and threatening to take our money and our hognose snakes. LOL. What a joke you are Pete. Go ahead and waste your money and make your threats. It means nothing. I can not wait to see the papers I get served with. LOL. I seriously doubt a lawyer would waste their time with your BS. Go back to you own lame forum site and stop trying to stir the pot. You will lose especially being that you can not even construct a proper sentence. LOL

 

[hhmoore]

Since you've mentioned posting links to other forums as proof a few times, I figured I should probably save you the effort, Pete. Linking to other forums is not acceptable on the BOI, unless they share the same name requirement that we have adopted...if they don't, those threads are nothing more than a series of anonymous third party quotes.
The statement regarding this policy can be seen here.

 

[Justin Mitcham]

been awhile..

The above account was posted on RFUK, pretty sure the person who did it is posting here.. beating my wife..really??

Gregg M..I'm happy you love those Jags I hatched , seen you post on the forums that your Excited to have this new project!! Great Job getting those, enjoy!!

It's been almost 18 months..and I have been to hell and back!!
Whats unfortunate about this website is that it seems it really doesn't want me to move forward, there is no forgiveness and certainty no love here, at least not for me. Even know I haven't done anything specific to anyone of you, besides the things I've said or what's buried in the past. So I cant understand how you can get past it or forgive. I owe no-one. like it was before Jerry and now 18mnth later I still owe no-one. Jerry got his animals, there was no court order or collection agency involved, we got together and worked things out. I felt bad for my part so I sent him an extra 6,000 in animals, I didn't stick him with stuff he didn't want,I sent the best I had even my 1st purple superconda's, and other things he wanted, 19k for a 13k debt paid and I feel much better about myself. But honestly, I think it's only made some people more angry that I did this!?Why??

18mths ago I messed my hand up bad, no insurance. I had to have surgeries that had to be paid for upfront since the amount was too much, had to go to rehab the works..I went up to almost 300lbs, got sick and depressed..huge medical bills, was on a lot of pain medicine.. one thing I learned pain medicine + keyboard = disaster. And that's exactly what happened. Fortunately I woke up, stopped having my script refilled , lost weight down to 240lb and most importantly stepped away from the keyboard and focused on my marriage , my animals and what was important to me.. living. This website and others what people said about me, the ways it made me feel had me even suicidal at times.Yeah Rich imagine the headline " Snake Breeder Kills Himself Over Forum Abuse" I don't want to go out like that, but at the time I felt I could get back at everyone and blow up there lives too just like mine has been. At one point I almost did. I was loosing it.Honestly I got so bad that I felt this would "fix" things. Imagine the media firestorm I felt it would be glorious. Wow gotta love opiates..or the doc who works for the lawyer who gets you hooked on them like a drug dealer. So I left for awhile took care of myself, healed and kept myself away from places and people like this. I really hope none of you have to go through this.
I would like to be the 1st person here to admit there human..that I do dumb stuff pretty much everyday.. the other day I put the butter in cupboard..seriously I wonder how I manage to dress myself sometimes. I try everyday to be better husband to my wife, she has become so much happier now that I focus on us and not this BS anymore.
Today ..life is good for me..except for this one place that is stuck on what happened long ago. Listen, I'm moving on..keep blasting me, crucifying me etc..I'm moving on with my life. I know I didn't have the best personality before this mess either.. but today is what counts not yesterday.

I believe Brian from BHB summed it up best when he said this somewhere,it really stuck with me, something like: fighting in the forums is like competing in the special Olympics..you may win.. but your still "special"
I think I'm sick of being "Special"

Best Regards,
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

 

[ozz465]

that is a scum bag move right there , perhaps u can ask a mod on that site to check the I.P of that account and have it traced??

 

[SlidellReptile]

Classic example of how these threads evolve into a pissing-match between two people.....Best of all, 99% has nothing to do with the specifics of the original post. Why dont you boys take this fight to the PM and spare the rest of us the nonsense.

 

[WebSlave]

The above account was posted on RFUK, pretty sure the person who did it is posting here.. beating my wife..really??

Gregg M..I'm happy you love those Jags I hatched , seen you post on the forums that your Excited to have this new project!! Great Job getting those, enjoy!!

It's been almost 18 months..and I have been to hell and back!!
Whats unfortunate about this website is that it seems it really doesn't want me to move forward, there is no forgiveness and certainty no love here, at least not for me. Even know I haven't done anything specific to anyone of you, besides the things I've said or what's buried in the past. So I cant understand how you can get past it or forgive. I owe no-one. like it was before Jerry and now 18mnth later I still owe no-one. Jerry got his animals, there was no court order or collection agency involved, we got together and worked things out. I felt bad for my part so I sent him an extra 6,000 in animals, I didn't stick him with stuff he didn't want,I sent the best I had even my 1st purple superconda's, and other things he wanted, 19k for a 13k debt paid and I feel much better about myself. But honestly, I think it's only made some people more angry that I did this!?Why??

18mths ago I messed my hand up bad, no insurance. I had to have surgeries that had to be paid for upfront since the amount was too much, had to go to rehab the works..I went up to almost 300lbs, got sick and depressed..huge medical bills, was on a lot of pain medicine.. one thing I learned pain medicine + keyboard = disaster. And that's exactly what happened. Fortunately I woke up, stopped having my script refilled , lost weight down to 240lb and most importantly stepped away from the keyboard and focused on my marriage , my animals and what was important to me.. living. This website and others what people said about me, the ways it made me feel had me even suicidal at times.Yeah Rich imagine the headline " Snake Breeder Kills Himself Over Forum Abuse" I don't want to go out like that, but at the time I felt I could get back at everyone and blow up there lives too just like mine has been. At one point I almost did. I was loosing it.Honestly I got so bad that I felt this would "fix" things. Imagine the media firestorm I felt it would be glorious. Wow gotta love opiates..or the doc who works for the lawyer who gets you hooked on them like a drug dealer. So I left for awhile took care of myself, healed and kept myself away from places and people like this. I really hope none of you have to go through this.
I would like to be the 1st person here to admit there human..that I do dumb stuff pretty much everyday.. the other day I put the butter in cupboard..seriously I wonder how I manage to dress myself sometimes. I try everyday to be better husband to my wife, she has become so much happier now that I focus on us and not this BS anymore.
Today ..life is good for me..except for this one place that is stuck on what happened long ago. Listen, I'm moving on..keep blasting me, crucifying me etc..I'm moving on with my life. I know I didn't have the best personality before this mess either.. but today is what counts not yesterday.

I believe Brian from BHB summed it up best when he said this somewhere,it really stuck with me, something like: fighting in the forums is like competing in the special Olympics..you may win.. but your still "special"
I think I'm sick of being "Special"

Best Regards,
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

Justin, sorry to hear life has been rough on you lately.

But I'm curious. You appear to be claiming that THIS one site (meaning FaunaClassifieds) is the only one that you have issues with in relation to your past. Yet you post a screen shot from what appears to be another website. Are you claiming that THIS site is where you found that member profile? Or is there really more than one site that you feel you have issues with?

And, in my opinion, it's not the "site" (or perhaps "sites") that may be giving you issues at all. It's the PEOPLE who you are having issues with that are the ones you need to deal and come to grips with. The site is nothing more than a medium for them to use for public correspondence with you. The "site" really doesn't care about such personal or professional issues between parties. This "site" is as neutral as I can possibly make it, and does not take sides either pro or con.

 

[Justin Mitcham]

is the only one that you have issues with in relation to your past.

I think missed this part below..

This website and others

The above account was posted on RFUK, pretty sure the person who did it is posting here.. beating my wife..really??

It's on the rfuk site, not claiming it to be here. I have the page saved so if you'd like me to forward it I can. Just showing a pattern, anytime my names comes up on the net..it's the same group of hognose breeders and the exact same tactics. This was posted long ago. It very hard to keep cool when this junior high level of crap goes on.Especially when your forced in a thread to talk to the very same peeps doing it to you!!! I just don't have that level of self control.

Rich, I apologize for some of the stuff I said in the past.. I offer that only because I can these days.Don't expect you to accept it, it's just there. Off to feed hogs, my wife has been very very quite today and is probably upset that I have come this far just to come back here. But I felt there should be final word by me on this issue. Jerry is happy, I am happy.. u guys should be as well. If you want to see some of the world most amazing hognosies..please visit my site.
Merry Xmas

 

[Justin Mitcham]

Why don't you do us all a favor and shoot yourself?

BTW Rich.. Pro and Cons...

Left in my Karma section of all places.. Nice to see that people can say stuff like this and remain anonymous... again this was posted long ago..at a time I was in bad shape.
Thx guys..

 

[WebSlave]

I think missed this part below..





It's on the rfuk site, not claiming it to be here. I have the page saved so if you'd like me to forward it I can. Just showing a pattern, anytime my names comes up on the net..it's the same group of hognose breeders and the exact same tactics. This was posted long ago. It very hard to keep cool when this junior high level of crap goes on.Especially when your forced in a thread to talk to the very same peeps doing it to you!!! I just don't have that level of self control.

Rich, I apologize for some of the stuff I said in the past.. I offer that only because I can these days.Don't expect you to accept it, it's just there. Off to feed hogs, my wife has been very very quite today and is probably upset that I have come this far just to come back here. But I felt there should be final word by me on this issue. Jerry is happy, I am happy.. u guys should be as well. If you want to see some of the world most amazing hognosies..please visit my site.
Merry Xmas

Apology accepted, Justin. I learned to not hold grudges and hope for the best from and for everyone. I sincerely hope that you get things all straightened out in your life.

 

[WebSlave]

BTW Rich.. Pro and Cons...

Left in my Karma section of all places.. Nice to see that people can say stuff like this and remain anonymous... again this was posted long ago..at a time I was in bad shape.
Thx guys..

It wouldn't be anonymous if you were a paid member, Justin.

 

[Justin Mitcham]

baby steps bro..honestly if I could delete the comments without seeing who posted I would. I did my emails lol.
I really found out the last few years who my real friends and family were, right now thats what counts. Not really into relearning who to hate LOL.. I dont even remember much from then, opiates will do that. I had extensive nerve and joint damage to my right hand, one finger has shrunk almost half an inch, is twisted about 30degrees toward my pinky and is constantly swollen 2x the size, and when I mean constantly I mean permanently. Cold makes it burn like in a skillet, light touches makes it itch enough to actually scratch your skin off. I take 3-4 Advil every morning with some coffee takes about 45 minutes to start working well.. I'm 34 ..cant wait til I'm 54.

 

[Justin Mitcham]

one more..

another thing..I had to fix my hand with the money I had at the time, just the way it was...

Before my surgery I had a bone broken almost longways from my joint, both sides rubbing back and forth , grinding..the pain was vivid to say the least. It couldn't be "set" it needed orthoscopic surgery and fast before the bones set. I came away with muscles relaxers to stop spasms, and couple types of opiates for pain.. nerve pills for nerve inflammation..sleeping pills to sleep...I was breaking teeth in my sleep from grinding them so bad from my arm and hand hurting while in the cast. After the cast I basically almost needed them physically at that point. The drugs interacted to make me beyond moody, irritable, selfish, fat, lazy..the works.
Turning point going to the doc and being diagnose with severe high blood pressure like 180-190+ sustained..doc said I would live to see my 35th birthday...
We'll I slowed down..last BP was 133/77
I went on a two week herping trip for the 1st time in years..took these pics myself..
These are what my days are like now!!
Good night..my wifes gone to bed and my pillow and a blanket are on the couch

 

[Gregg Madden]

that is a scum bag move right there , perhaps u can ask a mod on that site to check the I.P of that account and have it traced??

That does go beyond a certain point that should not be crossed. It is one thing to take make fun of or bitch about someone but it is totally somthing else to bring up a mans wife.
The mods of that site should give Justin the IP.

Justin, the Jags are great. They are eating like champs and growing fast. You did a fine job producing those. It was really no "job" getting them. I was interested in the project and a friend let me in on it.

I really hope this is a real turning point for you. You produce really nice hogs and the hognose hobby would be a much nicer place without that crappy attitude you had back when you were going through some issues.

 

[deborahbroadus]

That does go beyond a certain point that should not be crossed. It is one thing to take make fun of or bitch about someone but it is totally somthing else to bring up a mans wife.
The mods of that site should give Justin the IP.

Justin, the Jags are great. They are eating like champs and growing fast. You did a fine job producing those. It was really no "job" getting them. I was interested in the project and a friend let me in on it.

I really hope this is a real turning point for you. You produce really nice hogs and the hognose hobby would be a much nicer place without that crappy attitude you had back when you were going through some issues.

Just putting this out there. I know a lot of people going though issues; personalities only become "crappy" when they were crappy to begin with. I know a few people that have also been "bashed" without their personalities changing.

So in retrospect...no matter where you go, there you are. It's not people, forums, or any outside aspect of life that can make one consistantly show a nasty attitude, and I am always suspicious of those "born again" types.

That said, life actually does go on. Good luck, Justin!!

 

[Justin Mitcham]

Born again??
personalities only become "crappy" when they were crappy to begin with.

Baby I'm not born again or anything like that, people grow and change everyday, 1st time I posted here I was a young kid , now decades later I am much older and hopefully a bit wiser. A close family member of mine was an alcoholic for decades..they quite..and there a different person altogether..much better person, I would like say.
We all grow and constantly change due to our life experiences. Look at our poor veterans ..many of those go to war with absolutley wonderful personalities only to come home with PTSD and a lot baggage. Today I am just tired.

Life happens, don't forget the month before my hand was crushed I had awesome karma here, Positive Post's and don't forget 8 perfect trader ratings.. Was in a total of 4 mags, had some reptile radio programs.. then I got hurt. I certainly wouldn't have got to that place with a bad attitude.
I'm not going to let that define my life. I know today how fragile the balance of life is, before I took my health for granted

 

[Justin Mitcham]

sorry hit the post button mid post...lol

now I can't.., I do understand by what you mean though and thank you for the post and the wishes.