Bad Guy I have a problems with Justin

[andrew9843]

I don't see what this has to do with smuggling. Are these animals not allowed to be shipped to Taiwan?

justin is equating the changing of invoice pricing to smuggling.

and i want to make one thing clear, jerry has no way of forcing justin to do anything. there was no blackmail, no gun to justin's head, etc. jerry asked and justin complied.

 

[Justin Mitcham]

go reread the letter they mailed me or post it..say's 17k + interest , fee's and court cost....

Whats funny here is that ALMOST all reading (except those with real honor) lie cheat and steal...

I pay my taxes...
what about you guys..probably not

I feel out my reports
how about you..

I dont have illegal animals
how about you guys..

I dont smuggle or lie on paper work..
but as admitted by several here is VERY common.. its the way of doing business, becasue everyone does it it is ok??

and it isn't ok that I dont want to..

what do you think really brought Down US Global...

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do shit for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

What about the email from everyone from the Hiss on saying we should back him..

How many people here jumped on me for breaking the news that they been busted...been trying to tell peeps for year this is going on.

BUT the truth is most of you dont care..
You cheat
steal
lie
and then come on here to make yourself feel better by telling yourself your better than the other person. Truth is It's all about money.

you people here make me absolutley sick..after 20 years of knowing all your BS I am so done with the crowd..I will be breeding reptiles forever,becasue I love them and there's nothing you guys can do about it..
But i dont have to associate with you or put up with the Board of Bullies, cheats and liars..
The last reptile show I went to was in HK china, half of the breeders or more couldnt wait to run to the HK whorehouses after the show..
dont worry guys I wont name you...lol

I am sorry but most reptile people just make me fucking sick..

This is what matters:
Wife is happy
I am happy
hatched out almost 500 hogs
have only 50 or so left...
NICE
Cant wait till next season...

C you guys around... and when I see bullshit i am calling it out..

So who want to throw the next stone..?

 

[Gregg Madden]

go reread the letter they mailed me or post it..say's 17k + interest , fee's and court cost....

Whats funny here is that ALMOST all reading (except those with real honor) lie cheat and steal...

I pay my taxes...
what about you guys..probably not

I feel out my reports
how about you..

I dont have illegal animals
how about you guys..

I dont smuggle or lie on paper work..
but as admitted by several here is VERY common.. its the way of doing business, becasue everyone does it it is ok??

and it isn't ok that I dont want to..

what do you think really brought Down US Global...

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do shit for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

What about the email from everyone from the Hiss on saying we should back him..

How many people here jumped on me for breaking the news that they been busted...been trying to tell peeps for year this is going on.

BUT the truth is most of you dont care..
You cheat
steal
lie
and then come on here to make yourself feel better by telling yourself your better than the other person. Truth is It's all about money.

you people here make me absolutley sick..after 20 years of knowing all your BS I am so done with the crowd..I will be breeding reptiles forever,becasue I love them and there's nothing you guys can do about it..
But i dont have to associate with you or put up with the Board of Bullies, cheats and liars..
The last reptile show I went to was in HK china, half of the breeders or more couldnt wait to run to the HK whorehouses after the show..
dont worry guys I wont name you...lol

I am sorry but most reptile people just make me fucking sick..

This is what matters:
Wife is happy
I am happy
hatched out almost 500 hogs
have only 50 or so left...
NICE
Cant wait till next season...

C you guys around... and when I see bullshit i am calling it out..

So who want to throw the next stone..?

Awwww, do you feel like a big man now??? Good for you... Now give Jerry the money you owe him...

 

[ratkingrodents]

A moderator should really go through here and delete all of the smoke screen posts that are allowing Justin to beat around the bush. Anything that doesn't have to do with Justin and Jerry should be deleted or moved to another post.

I HATE scumbag scammers. I was out $1350 on a bad deal once and the guy acted like it was no big deal. If I had lost $13,000+ the thief would already be in jail.

 

[snakemami]

I would really like to see the posts with such nasty profanity removed. Justin, the way you curse is disgusting. Your filthy mouth alone would make me never do business with you.

 

[andrew9843]

go reread the letter they mailed me or post it..say's 17k + interest , fee's and court cost....

Whats funny here is that ALMOST all reading (except those with real honor) lie cheat and steal...

I pay my taxes...
what about you guys..probably not

I feel out my reports
how about you..

I dont have illegal animals
how about you guys..

I dont smuggle or lie on paper work..
but as admitted by several here is VERY common.. its the way of doing business, becasue everyone does it it is ok??

and it isn't ok that I dont want to..

what do you think really brought Down US Global...

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do shit for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

What about the email from everyone from the Hiss on saying we should back him..

How many people here jumped on me for breaking the news that they been busted...been trying to tell peeps for year this is going on.

BUT the truth is most of you dont care..
You cheat
steal
lie
and then come on here to make yourself feel better by telling yourself your better than the other person. Truth is It's all about money.

you people here make me absolutley sick..after 20 years of knowing all your BS I am so done with the crowd..I will be breeding reptiles forever,becasue I love them and there's nothing you guys can do about it..
But i dont have to associate with you or put up with the Board of Bullies, cheats and liars..
The last reptile show I went to was in HK china, half of the breeders or more couldnt wait to run to the HK whorehouses after the show..
dont worry guys I wont name you...lol

I am sorry but most reptile people just make me fucking sick..

This is what matters:
Wife is happy
I am happy
hatched out almost 500 hogs
have only 50 or so left...
NICE
Cant wait till next season...

C you guys around... and when I see bullshit i am calling it out..

So who want to throw the next stone..?

i think i'm probably not the first person who needs to re-read the letter...

 

[wyblep]

I bet you and the wife are real happy with the 13 grand you stole from the OP. Just do the right thing give him a refund and try and sale the animals to someone else.

This thread has over 3200 hits already and Im sure a lot are from your customers and would have been customers but after they all read these first 11 pages of dribble that you were so gracious to spew on us. Im sure the 500 animals you produce next year wont move so fast for you. I think you single handedly managed to put one more nail in the coffin you called a business.
Good day

 

[WebSlave]

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do **** for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

I never sold my business, Bub. Go ahead, look up the ownership of SerpenCo.com and see what it says. And, ooooh, look at the notice on the photo on my main page! What does that say? If someone bought the business, do you really THINK the domain name would still belong to me? I assume that the collections job you had didn't require any substantive investigative skills...

Most of my corns stayed right here in the states, btw, so I don't have a clue what you are referring to in relation to China. Seriously do you have ANY "facts" straight?

As for helping Jasen Shaw out, I'm not really sure what you are talking about. The only time I have ever talked with Jasen was when he was buying animals from me for an outgoing shipment or arranging a shipment overseas for one of my customers. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the snakes he bought from me NEVER stayed at his facility for longer than a few days before being shipped out. That was the complete and total extent of our relationship. The only time I have ever even seen him in person was when he showed up at the Daytona Expo a few times. Please don't try to drag me into YOUR apparent fixation with Jasen Shaw. That is between you and him. Personally, I really don't care about what went on between you two.

Anyway, to recap.....



ps: Really Justin, try not to get auto-banned from this site by your constant use of profanity in your posts. We really will miss you when you are gone.

 

[East_Coast]

Justin: You take the cake. I can honestly say that in my opinion you are the scummiest, sneakiest, pettiest, most cowardly (filing police reports? c'mon...) snake-guy I have ever seen.

Hey, Justin's wife, Sheila: I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was you. I'd also be checking out where he goes and what he does when he says he is at work or wherever else he goes. He is not to be trusted and while he is knowingly pulling this garbage I would bet (just my opinion) that he feels entitled to do whatever he wants in relation to your relationship as well.

Word to the wise -

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

With the amount of people reading this thread right now someone should have a virtual concession stand.

 

[David Scarboro]

OK

go reread the letter they mailed me or post it..say's 17k + interest , fee's and court cost....

Whats funny here is that ALMOST all reading (except those with real honor) lie cheat and steal...

I pay my taxes...
what about you guys..probably not

I feel out my reports
how about you..

I dont have illegal animals
how about you guys..

I dont smuggle or lie on paper work..
but as admitted by several here is VERY common.. its the way of doing business, becasue everyone does it it is ok??

and it isn't ok that I dont want to..

what do you think really brought Down US Global...

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do shit for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

What about the email from everyone from the Hiss on saying we should back him..

How many people here jumped on me for breaking the news that they been busted...been trying to tell peeps for year this is going on.

BUT the truth is most of you dont care..
You cheat
steal
lie
and then come on here to make yourself feel better by telling yourself your better than the other person. Truth is It's all about money.

you people here make me absolutley sick..after 20 years of knowing all your BS I am so done with the crowd..I will be breeding reptiles forever,becasue I love them and there's nothing you guys can do about it..
But i dont have to associate with you or put up with the Board of Bullies, cheats and liars..
The last reptile show I went to was in HK china, half of the breeders or more couldnt wait to run to the HK whorehouses after the show..
dont worry guys I wont name you...lol

I am sorry but most reptile people just make me fucking sick..

This is what matters:
Wife is happy
I am happy
hatched out almost 500 hogs
have only 50 or so left...
NICE
Cant wait till next season...

C you guys around... and when I see bullshit i am calling it out..

So who want to throw the next stone..?

you are a thief and a punk

 

[Show Me]

With the amount of people reading this thread right now someone should have a virtual concession stand.

As long as Justin isn't the Vendor.

 

[FLDave]

Hi Jerry,
I am very to hear this is happening to you.
Contact the Chinese or United States Consulate here in the United States (The Chinese Embassy has staff that may help you out) and notify them that you are a victim of fraud and theft.
They will need the information you have as evidence in your behalf.
They may be able to take action in your behalf.
Good Luck

 

[shane159]

you are a thief and a punk

 

[laterob]

Only reply I will give...

Why is it that the, umm, searching for words to not get hit with, folks-with-less-than-stellar-reputations almost ALWAYS do this?

"I'm only going to say this once, because I don't participate in such trivial pursuits...." then they post like 15 more times, usually about stuff that is irrelevant to the thread.

Well, if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullspit. Smoke and mirrors, Justin. Pay the dude back already.

 

[scaledverts]

go reread the letter they mailed me or post it..say's 17k + interest , fee's and court cost....

Whats funny here is that ALMOST all reading (except those with real honor) lie cheat and steal...

I pay my taxes...
what about you guys..probably not

I feel out my reports
how about you..

I dont have illegal animals
how about you guys..

I dont smuggle or lie on paper work..
but as admitted by several here is VERY common.. its the way of doing business, becasue everyone does it it is ok??

and it isn't ok that I dont want to..

what do you think really brought Down US Global...

And you know HOW USFW did it...he was lying on paperwork..and guess what I told them just where to look..he tried suing me for telling people about the cruelty, after I posted here. Remember that webslave..didnt you help him on that LOL..
look and see what he is wanted for LOL right now...lying on paperwork..

Webslave did you claim the correct amount when you sold your Business to das Tropen..

the guy told me in china would be nice if they would produce good eggs ..LOL last year they didnt do shit for him lol.. but thats his fault right... I mean cornsnakes can be VERY difficult to breed.
BY they way must suck to see one of your biggest and in your own words most trusted customer going down Jasen Shaw (AKA the HITLER of Herps) worlds largest animal cruelty case..
But when I said something webslave you criticized me..how does it feel to know that perhaps hundred or thousands of your animals died at his hands..
WOW
you didnt care then...
but you blast me for my morals..HAHA

What about the email from everyone from the Hiss on saying we should back him..

How many people here jumped on me for breaking the news that they been busted...been trying to tell peeps for year this is going on.

BUT the truth is most of you dont care..
You cheat
steal
lie
and then come on here to make yourself feel better by telling yourself your better than the other person. Truth is It's all about money.

you people here make me absolutley sick..after 20 years of knowing all your BS I am so done with the crowd..I will be breeding reptiles forever,becasue I love them and there's nothing you guys can do about it..
But i dont have to associate with you or put up with the Board of Bullies, cheats and liars..
The last reptile show I went to was in HK china, half of the breeders or more couldnt wait to run to the HK whorehouses after the show..
dont worry guys I wont name you...lol

I am sorry but most reptile people just make me fucking sick..

This is what matters:
Wife is happy
I am happy
hatched out almost 500 hogs
have only 50 or so left...
NICE
Cant wait till next season...

C you guys around... and when I see bullshit i am calling it out..

So who want to throw the next stone..?

Deflect much?........ahhhhh much too much........

 

[Riserax]

Just give him his money back and be done with it, please. It really isn't that hard. All of this nonsense could've easily been kept off the BOI if people would just do the right thing. Reputation means a lot more than any sum of money ever could. Enough beating around the bush.

Best of luck to you, Jerry. I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of this.

 

[charleshanklin]

Looks like someone might be trying to come up with jerrys money. Does anyone want to buy a nice pseudo collection of hognoses?

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=97&de=837309

 

[KelliH]

Justin, I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a long time. We had some decent conversations over the years. I'm disappointed that you seem to be exactly what you always said you weren't. You're in the wrong here and you know it man. And what is it with you calling USF&W and Animal Control and the police on people you have professional disagreements with? It seems to be a vindictive action, some sort of revenge rather that true concern for the animals. You really should make an effort to pay your customer back, or send him snakes, or something, anything. Using that lame excuse about the invoice is crap, a stall tactic; you know it and I know it. You screwed up dude; we all do...none of us are perfect or even close, but your "I'm always being screwed over by everybody bit is beyond old at this point. Man up.

 

[KelliH]

And one more thing, I have kept my mouth shut rather than post on a couple of other threads here where you pulled your shenanigans because of a fear that you might try to cause harm to my family and/or my business to be vengeful, but I'm all done with that. Just do the right thing and show some humility and some humanity. I do think you are capable of it, prove to everyone else and especially to yourself that you are!