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Quiet Tempest

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I just received this guy this morning but there's something wrong with him. He has a hard knot/bump on his back where the tail meets the body. I've never seen or dealt with anything like this before. Can I get your opinions on what would cause this? Would this adversely affect his ability to breed in the future? According to his feeding card he's been feeding well. I contacted the seller and he says he never noticed it before. Could this have happened during shipping? I was really looking forward to using this guy in future breeding projects and this knot/bump thing has me concerned. :(

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If it was packaged well, I highly doubt that could have happened during shipping (IMO). What did the box look like when you got it? Was there plenty of padding?
 
That certainly looks like a kink to me. As for it effecting it's ability to breed, well that probably won't be known until breeding time but if it is a genetic deformity breeding wouldn't be advisable. If the breeder did not notice it then the breeder could use glasses and may want to touch the animal before selling them.
 
The packaging was fine. He was packed in a deli cup and packaged in an insulated box.

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I can get pictures of his underbelly/tail but I didn't notice anything when I was checking him over this morning.
 
I'd have to agree with Dave, it does look like a kink.

If a breeder does deal with alot of babies, once in a great while a kinked one can get by them (we're only human); it's what they do to make the situation right that defines them. I had a similar situation with a baby I received, and the seller made it right by sending me completely without charge a replacement baby of equal value. The kinked one is being adopted out. Hopefully if you have to go that route you'll be treated with the same consideration.
 
He said I could ship this one back for a replacement or take a $20 credit. :-/ I don't want either of his remaining pastels. They're nice in their own right but I picked this guy for his neat pattern.
 
Quiet Tempest said:
He said I could ship this one back for a replacement or take a $20 credit. :-/ I don't want either of his remaining pastels. They're nice in their own right but I picked this guy for his neat pattern.
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He should pay for the shipping back and refund your money if he doesn't have an acceptable replacement.
 
I got more pics of this guy and I'm pretty sure it's not an injury. After looking closer at his belly, I think this may have happened during incubation and went unnoticed after he hatched. If that's the case and he's still eating, drinking, and voiding himself do you think he would ok in the longrun or should I send him back?

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TheFragginDragon said:
I'd have to agree with Dave, it does look like a kink.

If a breeder does deal with alot of babies, once in a great while a kinked one can get by them (we're only human); it's what they do to make the situation right that defines them. I had a similar situation with a baby I received, and the seller made it right by sending me completely without charge a replacement baby of equal value. The kinked one is being adopted out. Hopefully if you have to go that route you'll be treated with the same consideration.
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:iagree:

He is a pretty fella. If he were mine, since he does seem to be an exceptionally good colored/patterned animal AND if by the time he is up to breeding weight he is still exceptional, I would give him one chance and if he produced ANY kinked babies, he'd be put in pet only deformed status.

He should pay for the shipping back and refund your money if he doesn't have an acceptable replacement.
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I'm going to keep him and hope for the best. He acts like any other baby ball I've had in my care. He's just got that funky kink on his lower back. Because I want to keep him, the seller is going to give a $40 partial refund and an additional $40 credit towards a future purchase. Honestly, the seller has been nothing but nice through this whole ordeal and I will in all likelihood do business with him again because his animals all look gorgeous. I just got unlucky with my pick, I guess.

Thanks for all the insight here, guys. I'll update as he gets older.

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It sure looks like a kink to me. I don't know how the seller missed that. In my opinion, he should breed just fine as long as the kink doesn't continue to get worse. Good looking little guy. If it were me, I would send it back. With the partial refund the seller offered you, he comes out ahead, because he knows it's a tough animal to sell, especially if you paid top dollar for it. Good luck.
 
deborahbroadus said:
Those are some gorgeous, clear, exceptional pics. They really gave your case the needed foundation. The guys have said it all.


Good luck.
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I think I took a hundred pics trying to get my camera to capture what I was seeing. I'm sure my neighbors think I'm crazy. lol :eek:


Thanks for the well wishes, guys. I'm going to let him settle in for at least a few days before I bother him again.
 
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