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IBD and still selling snakes! How do you feel?

this is what scares me most, situations like this:
http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/boa/messages/106728.html

...and we have the tampa show coming up where people will be traveling from booth to booth handling snakes without proper sanitation proceedures in between.
i believe the word "epidemic" would be appropriate here when tossing out words that describe what could happen if the odds were stacked against us (the herping community).
i was planning on purchasing some nice snakes down there, but i just don't know if i can assure myself that the possibility of large scale contamination doesn't exist.

what do you guys think?  am i taking this too far and being overly cautious, or do you think i have a right to be worried?

thanks,
jonathan brady
 
At least now we know who CFRB aka CHUCK is from the other thread?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
I am posting the report of Matts Boa that was purchased from ( DALE PECOLA ) of San Diego Vivarium. I personally delivered the snake to Bruce Bogoslavsky, the company's personal  Vet for necropsy. With IBD having a gestation period of 28 days, you can see that the snake had been exposed at a minimum of 18 days before Matt received the snake. I am not here to bash but just to clarify the fact that the source was not Matt nor Bill . This could happen to anyone who buys and sells Boas. But the disturbing thing is the denial and shifting of blame instead of the concern of the species,  customers,  and collections that may have received exposed animals. If you are not concerned with the animals or the hobby why be involved, there are plenty of ways to make a dollar.
Charles Barker
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I FEEL BAD THAT IBD COULD HAVE POSSIBLY COME FROM
SDV. I CANT CONFIRM IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT ONLY EXPRESS MY REGRETS TO ALL CONSIDERED. THE ONLY PROBLEM I AM DEALING WITH AT THE PRESENT, IS THAT BILL CAGLE NEVER NOTIFIED ME UPON THE RESULTS OF THE TEST FROM CHRIS. I FOUND OUT ON A POST, THEN BY CHRIS.
AND IT WASNT A HEY CHRIS CAN YOU PLEASE TELL DALE FOR ME THAT THAT SNAKE HE SOLD ME HAD IBD. YOU KNOW; THE ONE I SOLD TO YOU.PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS.THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED BILL CAGLE, I AM WAITING TO HEAR.ALL I HAVE HEARD IS, DAMN I NEW YOU WERE A LIAR
WHEN YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THAT PERUVIAN.
 
AND CHARLES, EXCUSE ME, DOES IT REALLY SOUND LIKE I AM TAKING NO RESPONSIBILIY HERE. I KNOW YOUR TIES WITH BILLY CAGLE. IAM OLD SCHOOL ALSO  CHUCKY. CAGLE STARTED THE FINGER POINTING WEEKS AGO. I JUST SAT BACK AND WATCHED. NO NEED TO WATCH ANYMORE, TIME TO HUMBLE THYSELF. CHUCKY, I APOLOGIZE TO THE HERP COMMUNITY AND ALL PARTIES CONSIDERED FOR THIS
PROBLEM. IF THE VIRUS CAME FROM ME. I WILL SACK UP
AND INFORM. I WILL NOT SELL ANIMALS, BECAUSE THERE
ARE NONE TO SELL THAT WERE AROUND THE SNAKES IN QUESTION.BUT WITH ALL THE FACTS THERE ARE SOME
CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS CAGLE SHOULD ANSWER.
 
THREE UNHAPPY CUSTOMERS IN ALL YOUR HERP DEALINGS.

ARE YOU ######################### KIDDING ME

IM DONE HERE. CATCH UP WITH ME AT A SHOW, ILL BE GLAD TO STAND FACE TO FACE AND DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE.   THIS IS A SHAM!  

                                         D.PICOLLA
 
SHAM, HUH?  IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL THIS? I DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY, AS I KNOW IT IS NOT SINCERE. YOU ASKED TO HEAR FROM ME SOME MORE, SO HERE YOU GO.....

TODAY MY LAWYER SPOKE WITH MR. CHRISTOPHER ROWAN, OWNER OF PET CRAZY, A PET STORE IN SAN DIEGO, CA. THIS WAS A FRIEND OF DALES BEFORE HE ALSO GOT SCAMMED BY MR. PICOLLA AS WELL. MY LAWYER AND MYSELF HAVE BOTH SPOKEN TO MR. ROWAN, AND HE HAS GIVEN US QUITE A BIT MORE EVIDENCE. DALE SOLD ONE OF HIS BOAS THROUGH CHRIS' PET STORE, USING CHRIS' CREDIT CARD MACHINE, TO RECEIVE PAYMENT. DALE SOLD A BOA TO LINDA CAMERON FOR $1200 AND IT DIED TWO DAYS LATER. SHE HAS NOW REFUSED PAYMENT ON THE CREDIT CARD, AND CHRISTOPHER ROWAN IS NOW STUCK WITH THE BILL. DALE ALSO OWES MR. ROWAN $1000 AND HAS FAILED TO PAY THIS AS WELL. YOU ASKED FOR ME TO SPEAK DALE AND NOW I HAVE.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, HERE IS MR. ROWAN'S PHONE NUMBER. YOU GUYS CAN CALL AND TALK WITH HIM YOURSELVES: (858)503-0037
I KNOW DALE, HE'S PROBABLY JUST ANOTHER "BAD GUY", RIGHT?!? IF YOU NEED ME TO SAY ANYMORE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK. I'VE GOT PLENTY MORE EVIDENCE WHERE THIS CAME FROM. WE CAN TALK ABOUT PET KINGDOM, ANOTHER PET STORE IN SAN DIEGO, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO ANY FURTHER. CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU, DALE.
 
I SOLD THREE BOAS TO BILL CAMERON, HE RECEIVED THEM IN
GOOD HEALTH UNTIL THREE WEEKS LATER HE CALLED AND SAID ONE OF THE ANIMALS WASNTDOING THAT WELL. HE SAID HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME,A WEEK AFTER THAT HE
CALLED AND SAID THE SNAKE DIED, AND THEN ANOTHER SNAKE DIED. AFTER ANOTHER WEEK HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO PUT THE OTHER ONE DOWN. MR CAMERON NEVER SENT ME A PHOTO OR VET REPORT, SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO GO ON. THE ROWAN INCIDENT I WILL POST IN ANOTHER POST
 
CONTRARY TO WHAT MR. ROWAN IS SAYING, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS MR. ROWAN TOOK ME FOR A SUM OF MONEY I WOULD RATHER NOT DISCLOSE. IN THE EVENT OF A LEGAL
PROCEEDING THAT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COURT.
 
ROUGHLY THREE MONTHS AGO PET KINGDOM A PET STORE IN SAN DIEGO, SOLD A MAN I KNOW A SNAKE THAT HAD IBD. THEY DID THIS KNOWINGLY. THE ANIMAL WAS CONFIRMED
WITH THIS DISEASE BY AVIAN EXOTIC ANIMAL HOSPITAL
IN SAN DIEGO.THIS IS ALL I WILL DISCUSS ABOUT THIS
MATTER UNTIL THE GENTLEMAN DECIDES HOW HE IS GOING TO PROCEDE WITH THIS MATTER.
 
MR ROWAN FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME IF LIKE TO DISCUSS
THE FINANCIAL DISAGREEMENT YOU AND I HAVE. YOU CAN PASS THAT ON TO HIM BILL CAGLE IF YOU LIKE. 619-944-1772.
 
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