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I just tried to submit this before, so forgive me if it comes up twice. I ahve an incubator setup w/ an aquarium and water w/brick holding up the eggg container, submersible hater as a heat source. Temp was set at 83 degreees two days before eggs were alid (luckily). Anyways, the eggs ended up beig infertile I think... the only doubt is because the egg container got half full with water due to all the humidity... is there a way to get around this? I don't think that the eggs were fetile, but I am positive that if they were they would have suffered the same fate from drowning. Thanks,
Trip
 
hovabater

I bought a hovabater and it works well if anything i would say try to copy its design i put my eggs in a small tub inside the incubater with the vermiculite and water to keep the humidity in
 
What type on container do you have the eggs in? I would continue to use your incubator but reduce ventilation in the egg laying container. How much water do you add to the vermiculite? Just add enough to make it slightly moist. Did the container really fill up wth water?

Tripper said:
I just tried to submit this before, so forgive me if it comes up twice. I ahve an incubator setup w/ an aquarium and water w/brick holding up the eggg container, submersible hater as a heat source. Temp was set at 83 degreees two days before eggs were alid (luckily). Anyways, the eggs ended up beig infertile I think... the only doubt is because the egg container got half full with water due to all the humidity... is there a way to get around this? I don't think that the eggs were fetile, but I am positive that if they were they would have suffered the same fate from drowning. Thanks,
Trip
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Well, there are a number of ways to control the humidity and condensation. One possibility is to not ADD any moisture to the vermiculite, and keep an eye on the eggs...if they start to dent slightly, then you add a slight bit to the vermiculite. The humidity inside a water incubator is so high, you may not have to moisten the vermiculite at all. You can also put lids on the individual egg cups, sealing out some of the moisture--if they get condensation on the inside of the lid, carefully remove the lid, and wipe it off.
Watch your eggs--you don't want them swelling too much, too soon--that means they're absorbing too much water. They can even burst, and of course this kills the embryo. Keep them as dry as possible without them denting.
 
my method

my method involves a ratio of vermiculite to water that way it has enough humidity while not enough to mold and i dont need the incubater filled with water. my eggs have been doing great. i can't remember the ratio but i think it was 4:1 vermiculite to water
 
How did the egg container get 1/2 full of water?

Can't really add much to the above advise except I use perlite instead of vermiculite.
 
i can't remember the ratio but i think it was 4:1 vermiculite to water
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no with fine vermiculite it is a 1:1 ratio of water to vermiculite.

with the more course stuff you would use less because it doesnt absorb as much water. im a big fan of the pinch test. pinch some together and if no water rings out AND it sticks together its perfect.
 
Yes the conatiner got half full with water. I'll try minimizing holes in the container and using less water in the vermiculite initially. I made the holes- in the plastic deli cup w/lid I was using- to increase ventilation. This, obviously, seems to have let too much water in. It's just so frustrating because before I took them to the incubator in the Bio lab at school and had 100% healthy babies even with the first cluthces from each female. But anyways, I cut holes in the bottom of the cup to let the excess water out ( a good 50 to 75 percent of the cup). A few days later, however, there was major mold, where as the day before the eggs were fine. I'll try having less holes and using less water in the vermiculite ( originally I would say there was 1:1, maybe a bit less water). Thanks for the advice and if there arey other things that someone has to offer, they would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Trip
 
With Albeys meathod of incubating there are no holes in the lid. A 1:1 ratio for vermiculite and a .8 water :1 ratio with perilite. She also recomends only opening the container once a week for air exchange. She does use a hobavator and therefore needs no water like you need with your set up. But if the container has no holes, the water should not be able to get in at all. The perilite or vermiculite lets out enough humidity. I have not gotten any eggs yet so am only passing on what I have researched.
 
With Albeys meathod of incubating there are no holes in the lid. A 1:1 ratio for vermiculite and a .8 water :1 ratio with perilite. She also recomends only opening the container once a week for air exchange. She does use a hobavator and therefore needs no water like you need with your set up. But if the container has no holes, the water should not be able to get in at all. The perilite or vermiculite lets out enough humidity. I have not gotten any eggs yet so am only passing on what I have researched.
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this is the method i use to the T. it works for me. alot of gecko breeders use hovabators i know my friend vince does, Marcia McGuiness does, and i do. i cant speak for Marcia but vince (diabloboas) and i have a 100% success rate with fertile eggs using this method. i highly recomend it.

building an incubator just seems like a pain in the butt. hovabator is the way to go I.M.O.
 
yup

yup its worked perfectly for my needs thus far and was well worth the $70 or so it cost me i cant complain
 
hoverbator

Does anyone have a link to a site that sells them? thanks
 
I got both of mine off ebay, 1 was used and I only paid $10 for it, the other was new and it was around $40
 
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