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varnyard said:
No, I cannot agree, if he has no proof that he cares to share with us, I for one will be one of many that will always think his statement was more towards a lie. He might be disgruntled but he needs to back up his claims.
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i see where you are coming from. by wanting proff. trust me we are all waiting to see it. right on his website it claims that the legal procedings are in process right now and by posting them all on here he would endanger the court decisions. wich is understandable. i guess we have to wait till after the court things till we see the documentation. untill then any posts are just crap. no matter what side of this you are on. end o story.
i will not post on here again till more proff is provided. :thumbsup:
 
Wilomn said:
tasha, as usual, you are full of crap.

I got divorced long ago. I owned a retail reptile store at the time plus I had a private collection. I cleaned. I maintained. I bred. I sold. My ex did NOTHING that had anything to do with the animals.

In my divorce papers I was awarded custody/ownership of several animals that were at the home I had shared with my ex.

Care to guess who STILL, over ten years later, has my pancake tortoises? My cherry head redfoot? My adult suclattas? There were more, I NEVER got one friggin animal that the COURT said, in my DECREE, were mine because my wonderful ex wouldn't give them to me and had I gone on her property and taking them it would have been grand theft.

You're an idiot with a friend tasha. Go away and learn how it really works before you go spouting as if you actually had a damn clue.

I'm pretty sure nigel is not telling the whole truth. I am pretty damn sure that you, as spokesperson for his ex, are also not telling the whole truth.

nigel, why don't you and your ex quit playing proxy games and get your lying asses on here to clear up your nonsensical business?

Cowards and fools, the both of you.
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Well then Wes - you are the idiot - you could have taken your divorce decree to the police station and been escorted over to your ex's house and removed your property. I do know how things work - been there - done that. Perhaps you should take your own advice and stop telling people what to do - since you really don't seem to have a clue.
 
Nigel is the kind of creep that would post his divorce papers on the internet for the sole purpose of further tormenting his ex-wife. Nigel never has cared about the snakes - he's not part of the industry, doesn't care what you people think about him - Gail is and he's loving that you bought into his BS and are dragging Kevin and Gail over the coals. End of story.
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Now for an unbiased opinion here's Tosha. Although I still agree with her regarding the hearsay aspect of this thread. Now we see that Nigel refuses to post. If he doesn't think it is worthy of posting here then maybe we shouldn't regard it with any importance either.
 
kmurphy said:
If he doesn't think it is worthy of posting here then maybe we shouldn't regard it with any importance either.
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BINGO!!! We have a winner!

This whole thread was started on 3rd party information by a 3rd party individual. Which is supposed to be against the rules and reason for deletion. I have not understood why this thread was made or allowed to stay all along.
 
While I largely agree that this thread shouldn't have been started, the rule is against anonymous third party quotation
 
shrap said:
BINGO!!! We have a winner!

This whole thread was started on 3rd party information by a 3rd party individual. Which is supposed to be against the rules and reason for deletion. I have not understood why this thread was made or allowed to stay all along.
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'cause it wasn't anonymous.

That's not to say that it should have been posted... and by posting just a hyperlink, it did violate a rule, however people seem to be caught up on this third party and hearsay thing.

Information attributed to an anonymous third party is not allowed. Information attributed to a named third party is.

Hearsay isn't admissible in a court of law, but the BOI isn't one- even though it's participants often choose to apply many of the same standards. Furthermore, the term hearsay is being widely misinterpreted- "______ is guilty. Because ______ said so." is hersay as it assumes a conclusion the party making the statement cannot confirm. However "______ said ______ is guilty." is not hearsay if the party making the statement is reporting a conversation that they had with the third party accuser- it identifies a factual interaction and leaves the veracity of the accusation on the honesty of the accuser.
 
Well that clears the aspect of violating a BOI rule up. Thanks Harald and Seamus.

The other aspect I am still at a loss for though.
 
Seamus Haley said:
and by posting just a hyperlink, it did violate a rule
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Actually, I think that was more a suggestion/recommendation, not a rule. I attempted to verify this but somebody (ahem ...er, I mean :bow01: ) changed the TOS, and I can't even locate the rules
 
While I largely agree that this thread shouldn't have been started, the rule is against anonymous third party quotation
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It may not be anonymous but the guy who wrote it (Nigel) has stated he doesn't anything to do with the BOI. So the post will stand largely unsubstantiated because the principals don't want to have any part of it.
 
hhmoore said:
I can't even locate the rules
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:blush: OK, so the rules are right where they always were...just in a different format, and a few of the old ones seem to have been omitted.
 
Seamus Haley said:
That's not to say that it should have been posted... and by posting just a hyperlink, it did violate a rule,
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Posting a link on the BOI was dropped as a infraction offense during your absence from Fauna. Shortly after the rule that contributors could only post on the BOI was rolled back that rule was also changed to a suggestion and not a requirement that would be subject to a site violation.
 
gail here...

This thread is ridiculous ... I don't know what Nigel is up to, but I will not take the bait. Kevin is my friend and what he said is true. Tosha is my friend and I think it was pretty disgusting for someone to jump on her like she did something wrong. I was put through hell by my ex and my friends know it, so they want to protect me from any more hurt that he tries to inflict. Please don't lash out at people who have done nothing wrong but be a friend to me.

Nigel is my ex and I haven't a clue as to why he has started this garbage. I work for Kevin at his retail store in NH and his snakes are incredible and his facility spotless. I will not post to this thread again. People in the industry have known me for years and my friends in the industry know me and what happened in my divorce. And I am not going to discuss my divorce on this forum.

Regards,

gail
 
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