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ToshaMc said:
On a different note: I'm not sure I get the relevance as to where the WCs came from tho?
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Chris stated in this thread they came from Millennium Morphs, and that they were full of ticks. Millennium Morphs prides themselves on the quality of the balls they supply to the market. Chris's words smeared (maybe rightfully so) the company he bought the WC balls from, when in reality they might have been housed at Mike Brooks facilities in Long Island.

Furthermore, there has been speculation in this thread that Chris doesn't seem to have had enough knowledge about ball pythons to set-up everything without outside help. Millennium Morphs and TNS Reptiles are both in NY, some 8 hours drive away from Chris. It would be nice if they would comment IF they helped Chris out in any way (from coordinating importation, to the set-up, to...;) ). It's highly doubtful they will reply to this thread though as they have been absent from the BOI for a long time.

Regards,
 
The Boid Smith

Hello, this is Adam from Millennium Morphs and I was told to come check this post out.

I do not want to get involved in this long brutal thread, but just wanted to clear a few things up.

I did sell a large group of GRAVIDS to this guy Chris from upstate. I have never heard of him before and do not know him personally. What I do know is, he contacted me looking to buy 200 gravids. I added a large group of animals to my last shipment and sold them to him. He said he just started his business and wanted to buy a large group. He also told me of some other morphs he had that her was working with.

From our brief dealings on the sale, I did not have any problems or suspect any negative feedback from him. He actually drove down and picked them up in person. So I did meet him, and he is real.

But that is all I know. He seems ok to me, but I did not do all the intense research on him like some of you did on the BOI. He is just a customer that seemed ok to me.

Boid Smith, as far as our new website, I saw you posted the home page and immediately attacked me about the part where it says they are treated with respect and quaranteened. I really do not need another war on the BOI. I have not been hear since the ONE AND ONLY time with Matt Crabe, and have had NO problems since. I do treat my animals with respect and have been involved in reptiles fro over 20 years. Animals do come in with ticks, but are always treated and taken care of.

So plase do not attack me once again, as I really do not want to get involved in this situation. If you need to speak with me and want to discuss things further, I have no problem speaking with you direct and giving you what ever info. you need. My number is 631-831-0078. It just seems that on this BOI things get mixed up and twisted a bit.

Thank you
 
Adam from Millennium Morphs is reading this thread as I type. One thing I would like to know for example is if Chris just picked up those tick-infested WC gravid balls from his booth at the show.

Thanks.
 
Boid Smith, as far as our new website, I saw you posted the home page and immediately attacked me about the part where it says they are treated with respect and quaranteened. I really do not need another war on the BOI. I have not been hear since the ONE AND ONLY time with Matt Crabe, and have had NO problems since. I do treat my animals with respect and have been involved in reptiles fro over 20 years. Animals do come in with ticks, but are always treated and taken care of.
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Adam,

Thanks for replying. Bear with me I'm not attacking you it was Chris who said that you sold him WC tick infested gravid balls. It's in this very same thread. What I wanted to clarify was if in fact those balls came from you. You should clear that up with Chris as he is the one that has been saying you sold untreated WC balls while in your page you state otherwise.

Thanks.
 
Dan,

Many people buy unopened crates of imported Ball Pythons every year. Not saying that is what Chris bought, but it is really the responsibility of the person who bought those unopened crates to treat the animals. Not necessarily the responsibility of the importer.
 
shrap said:
Dan,

Many people buy unopened crates of imported Ball Pythons every year. Not saying that is what Chris bought, but it is really the responsibility of the person who bought those unopened crates to treat the animals. Not necessarily the responsibility of the importer.
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Exactly. You take the responsibility for the deaths, ticks, mites, etc. when you order crates (or even bags) of imported BP's.

Adam merely placed a larger order to include the ones Chris wanted.
Chris is the one who needs to deal with the issues that arise when dealing with imports.
 
BoidSmith

Ok, but it just seems as if you were trying to attack me for nothing. You spoke of me and my animals as if they were not taken care of properly.

Chris is not saying he got tick infested animals from me and saying that he upset. He stated that they did have ticks, but he was well aware of that when purchasing them and even before purchasing them. We discuss how to treat them when they came in and he did so.

He bought a large group of animals. I was not going to treat all of his animals before he picked them up. He picked them up the day after they came in because he wanted them right away. I did not even sort through them. That was part of the deal. I was not supposed to go throught them a pick through them. He wanted them unsorted. So I could not treat them if I wanted to.

I knew nothing of Chris's prior background and actually do not want to know about it. I was not buying anything from him so I did not reasearch his entire life. I just sold him some animals and spoke to him over the phone. He seemd ok to me. As far as all the stuff on this thread, I actually did not have a bad experience with him, so I will not get involved and do not want to attack him.

Hopefully you understand.
 
Thank you SPJ

You are 100% correct. And that was how the deal went down...

He was also ok with it and I instructed him on what to do for treating them. I helped him as much as I could. And from what I understood, the animals were doing great and they were all treated.
 
Sharp you are correct

Sharp as stated before, that is exactly how the deal was made. He bought unopened crates, which were his responsibility to treat the animals. I treated all of mine like I was supposed to.

And from what I gather so did he. I actually gave him some advise on how to do so. So I think he did do the right thing with them.
 
Fill me in

I did not read the ENTIRE thread, but what happened here. what did Chris do. I dont know how this spun so far out of control.

Please fill me in
 
Adam,

I figured with the amount he ordered that this was the case, that is why I brought it up. You did what is common practice in these matters and should not be taking any heat at all.

But thanks for coming here and verifying where the animals came from. It is much appreciated.
 
MillenniumMorph said:
Ok, but it just seems as if you were trying to attack me for nothing. You spoke of me and my animals as if they were not taken care of properly.

Chris is not saying he got tick infested animals from me and saying that he upset. He stated that they did have ticks, but he was well aware of that when purchasing them and even before purchasing them. We discuss how to treat them when they came in and he did so.

He bought a large group of animals. I was not going to treat all of his animals before he picked them up. He picked them up the day after they came in because he wanted them right away. I did not even sort through them. That was part of the deal. I was not supposed to go throught them a pick through them. He wanted them unsorted. So I could not treat them if I wanted to.

I knew nothing of Chris's prior background and actually do not want to know about it. I was not buying anything from him so I did not reasearch his entire life. I just sold him some animals and spoke to him over the phone. He seemd ok to me. As far as all the stuff on this thread, I actually did not have a bad experience with him, so I will not get involved and do not want to attack him.

Hopefully you understand.
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Fair enough, that's what I just wanted to know.

Thanks,
 
We have just had a phone conversation with Matt that cleared things up. The balls came directly in a crate for Chris, and he picked them up himself. That clears up the doubts I had.

Thanks. :)
 
The BoidSmith said:
We have just had a phone conversation with Matt that cleared things up. The balls came directly in a crate for Chris, and he picked them up himself. That clears up the doubts I had.

Thanks. :)
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With Matt?
 
ToshaMc said:
Adam - just for clarifications sake - did all 200 of his WCs come from you/that shipment?
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How could Adam possibly be expected to know where all of Chris' animals came from? Seriously.
 
Yes, they did. It was an order Adam placed specifically for Chris.
 
The BoidSmith said:
Yes, they did. It was an order Adam placed specifically for Chris.
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So you are saying you know for a fact that Chris did not buy any other WCs from other people or at a show?
 
shrap said:
So you are saying you know for a fact that Chris did not buy any other WCs from other people or at a show?
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chris said he had 200 wc females.

adam says he sold chris 200 wc females.

MillenniumMorph said:
What I do know is, he contacted me looking to buy 200 gravids. I added a large group of animals to my last shipment and sold them to him.
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He may have some others but the bulk if not all seem to have come from adam.
 
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