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inquery: fybexotics

Also Alvaro touched on this, and I meant to say this, so I will explain what he meant.

Do not exeed 2% of the animals body weight when you "re hydrate" it. The reasoning for this is, quite often people assume if they shove a bunch of water down a herps throat it will "re hydrate" them. In reality you are more likely to drown the animal then re hydrate it. Often if you shove too much liquid in them at once they will only puke it back up, and that is very counterproductive.

As noted before, the hydration is only a small part of the problem. You need to get that animal eaing, as I assume it is not. You may want to ask your vet about tube feeding the animal, allthough I wouldnt suggest you attempt this, and only do this as a last resort.

Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
 
let me be clear on this, i have not witness them feeding but they have eatn the crickets in the cages. the one male the died NOT the doa did not feed , all three of the remaining geckos also drink on there own, i guess its just a time trial. in your guys opnion do you think the parasites should be treated ASAP or do you think i should hold off on treatment, countine feeding and maintaing them to a stable condition then treat.
 
Not knowing the parisites your likely dealing with, or the severity of the potential problems, I would say if you really wan thoose geckos to live a long life, I would see a QUALIFIED vet.

Take this as a learning lesson. You may get a animal cheaper by going one route, but in the long run you pay more.

Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
 
got an apointment with my vet for 4 pm tommorow. i was under the impression that WC adult fat tails where the norm. and that there wherent really any adult captive borns on the market. live and learn , i can tell you one thing tho, im not letting these last 3 go with out a fight.
 
Vince, I don't believe you ever answered it on the other thread... How old are you?

You may feel it appropriate to get defensive and scoff and respond sarcastically to constructive critiscism, but all you are doing is getting yourself a reputation. Fauna has thousands of members in the reptile community... Thousands. Do you really want all of them to read your angry drivel and caustic retorts when they are directed at some of the industry's high points and noteable good guys? Your conduct here isn't like exchanging private emails with someone you disagree with... it is seen by many, MANY people, all of whom are going to form an opinion of you based on the way you carry yourself and the responses you choose. You've already done a great deal of damage to any credibility you might have... If you want to salvage any of it, I would suggest an immediate turn around in the tone you choose to utilize when writing.

As of now people reading your threads can view examples of you being hot headed, vulgar, disrespectful, quick to pass judgement, throwing a temper tantrum, circumventing Fauna's rules, snotty, sarcastic, rude and ignorant. Think long and hard about the reputation you have now and the reputation you want in the future. Even if you only want to be a hobbiest who buys animals and never sells... you need somebody to buy *from* and with the attitude you have displayed, you might not have anyone willing to deal with you in fairly short order.
 
just got back from the vet, hook worms , and blood in the feces , the doc said there is a possable bacterium infection, and treated the geckos as such. the three left look ok and are hideing out in there hide boxs right now. fyb was a good anough guy to refund me half of the value of the 2nd dead fat tail, also offerd up some replacements but i declined due to the fact i will never buy any WCs again. i also purchased the "kiddie" bottle water from the supermarket, it contains added electrolites as well as vitamins and minerals. i belive these 3 may pull threw. thanks for the help that was given. take care everyone
 
Seamus,
i complety understand what your saying to me, i meen i cant change how i acted and reacted in the past. but that was a one time thing. it was only one day , a bad one for me for many reasons with me blowing up on fauna at the bottom of that list. but listen im sorry for disrespecting you, i tryd to say it on the other thread but you didnt respond and that cool. hope we can put this all in the past, live and learn but never forget, see ya
 
Vince, I didn't actually get to see any of those responses on the other thread, Webslave deleted them as they were posted and I wasn't online at the time... When I got there, it was simply a lot of disjointed responses.

I was speaking more about the continued use of terms such as "Buddy" when speaking about people who you really don't know and, as much as they may be inclined to help out or assist in any way possible, can't be called your friends. Thie rapic cycling bipolar act between apologetic and angry or asking for help and rejecting what others have to say isn't helping much either.

People can't change the past... and it takes a lot of positive actions to make up for negative ones... but if you really want to change it, then it has to be absolute. You have said it would change several times, but everyday for the last week or so when I check fauna, there's a thread with you offending someone. Apologies mean nothing if the behavior you are apologizing for is repeated minutes later. Promises of change are the same way.

People will forgive... but they don't forget easily... it takes a long time to re-establish credibility after a meltdown. Every minor action will be analyzed and scrutinized and looked at with far more intensity than they would be for someone who had never blown up. Understanding this and accepting it... and still working hard to make sure it doesn't continue to happen will, eventually, fix things in the public eye.
 
so basicly your complaining about me calling some one buddy? i dont understand that, but i guess i kind of understand what your saying, someone with a negitive attitude could see that as an insult i guess. if thats the case it was taken out of context. and i aperciate all the help and advice that people have given me.
 
Well good job on getting them to a vet, that shows your trying.

As for fyb offering up some restitution, Im also glad you posted that, as that was big of them do do soo in this situation, and is worth noteing.

I think it was a wise move to pass on the replacements and instead focus on the ones you have now. I would be very carefull around any other animals you have in the house, and make sure and use proper quarintine procedures with thoose geckos, includeing useing seperate supplies. Also make sure to clean your hands thoroughly after dealing with them, and follow the vets directions on the meds as stricltly as possible.

One last tip, keep the cage and substrate to a minnimum for the time being. If it were me I would set each one up in its own shoe box enclosure, with newspaper and hide logs that can easily be cleaned. Then change the paper daily and clean the hide boxes of any fecies to keep the enviroment as "sterile" as possible while the fight of the parasites.

Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles
 
i have them in 10 gal fish tanks , singal , with paper towel substrae, female has a nest box with perlite,

it may come as a shock but i do post when things go right , as well as when they go wrong, again thank you to everyone who helpd. i will keep posting on how these guys do. take care
 
so basicly your complaining about me calling some one buddy? i dont understand that, but i guess i kind of understand what your saying, someone with a negitive attitude could see that as an insult i guess.
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Vince,

The use of terms such as "buddy", "buddy boy", 'Pal" etc. imply a certain level of intimacy/friendship with the person that you don't have. If you engage in a conversion with someone yo have never met before and you want to be taken serious you better review your approach.

Someone told me once that an e-mail has always an aggresive, and cold tone. The problem is that one is unable to express in words what we usually do with body language (emoticons are useful in that respect). In the quote for example, you are again saying that the person that took offense with your approach has a negative attitude. If you have been longer in here you would probably have noticed that Rob is a person with a very positive attitude. That's the key to "fit in" whenever you enter a new situation, place, meeting, etc. listen for a while, and learn what's happening before jumping into conclusions, tantrums, etc.
 
just trying to be friendly, guess i picked the wrong crowd. well no matter, ill be back to post an update on the geckos in a week or so. take care buddys
 
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