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right... anytime someone starts trolling on one of the forums its my fualt, please!!!

btw thanks for the warning points i didnt know saying fudge was not allowed... and saying real bad words was. my bad.
 
esoteric-lizard said:
right... anytime someone starts trolling on one of the forums its my fualt, please!!!
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What are you talking about? Are you refering to my first post? Did I assign blame, or did you just ASSume that I did?

btw thanks for the warning points i didnt know saying fudge was not allowed... and saying real bad words was. my bad.
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Brian,
You used X's to mask profanity. That has never been allowed around here. No one has said that it's ok to use "real bad words." How you arrived at that conclusion, I have no idea. :rolleyes:
 
Dr Owens said:
What are you talking about? Are you refering to my first post? Did I assign blame, or did you just ASSume that I did?

Brian,
You used X's to mask profanity. That has never been allowed around here. No one has said that it's ok to use "real bad words." How you arrived at that conclusion, I have no idea. :rolleyes:
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what ever you say man, you're the boss arent you?
 
esoteric-lizard said:
seeing as you asked... as for the contradiction... to come on here and start drama, saying i am the one starting drama... is a contradiction.
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I didn't say you were making any drama. I said that it SEEMS like a personal vendetta. I asked why you started an inquiry on somebody you already know, somebody who also banned you from their forums. Did i mention the email?
 
justinmorse said:
This thread is starting to get annoying.
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So stop reading it if it doesn't interest you...unsubscribe, and you will no longer get email notifications.
 
It seems pretty obvious to me that Brian really wanted to cut a deal here but, not trusting Matt or Harry, posted this inquiry hoping that someone would say they could be trusted so he could go for it. Nothing wrong with that I suppose but first instincts are the best and only a dummy would ship first to an unknown or questionable entity.

I would also like to add that if these snakes did come from Jay at Prehistoric Pets I would trust them 100%. Though I never have completed a deal with Jay I was going to purchase some snakes from him a couple of years ago but sexing them before shipping Jay discovered he did not have a 1.1 pair to ship so he phoned me and allowed me to cancel the deal. He could have shafted me but took the honest road instead

What really bothers me in this thread is the evident price fixing referred to. I know that this does go on or some species would be dirt cheap by now but it surprises me that someone would openly admit it thusly;
MonsterSnakesForever.com said:
Thanks for the inquery Brian. I banned you last night from MonsterSnakesForums.com for trying to lowball the market...
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I then decided after you bad mouthed me you didnt need to be on my forums selling your animals for FREE and at 1/3 the market value and you are upset with me because I would not let you undercut the market on my website...I then banned you.
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IMO this just detracts from Mr. Wessels’s reputation even further.
 
John E Dove said:
What really bothers me in this thread is the evident price fixing referred to. I know that this does go on or some species would be dirt cheap by now but it surprises me that someone would openly admit it thusly;


IMO this just detracts from Mr. Wessels’s reputation even further.
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:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Not just unethical, but illegal as well.

I have an idea....pay the $10 and join the Hell forum so you guys can have it out in an unmoderated sort of way. The impression given by reading this thread is that there are way too many personal feelings involved for this to be totally "an inquiry" with no other ulterior motives. I am sure others can see this as well.
 
IMO this just detracts from Mr. Wessels’s reputation even further.
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Actually... I believe in protecting the market that many people have spent alot of money on to help bring in these cool new morphs and I see nothing wrong with it.

It isnt really controlling the market, its not allowing low ballers to advertise for free, If you want to pay some one to host your ad's, then by all means sell what you want for what ever you want..You paid for that ability.
 
Tom C said:
Actually... I believe in protecting the market that many people have spent alot of money on to help bring in these cool new morphs and I see nothing wrong with it.

It isnt really controlling the market, its not allowing low ballers to advertise for free, If you want to pay some one to host your ad's, then by all means sell what you want for what ever you want..You paid for that ability.
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i am not a lowballer... like i sad before... i am getting out of reptile breeding and to expect me, or anybody else for that matter, to live up to the "golden standard" is extremely unrealistic and quit franky controlling... a lowballer is a person who breeds snakes and is price cutting his competitors... i am offering a choice deal to someone who could turn around and make a nice return on thier investment... i think that is totally different than lowballing. i offered harry and his partner matt a choice deal.... and they were planning to rip me off!!!

for those of you out there that support harry and matt be forewarned they these two are people have, from what i have discovered, a very checkered past... i would like to thanks those who have to see through the BS and see the facts...
 
Price fixing is ILLEGAL
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You are missing the point of the term "privilege" , no one is price fixing and this is about an agenda that has nothing to do with "price fixing"

If you have been in this hobby for awhile you would have to agree that 99% of us have pointed potential customers in the direction of different breeders, tell me how this has anything to do w/ "monstersnakesforever and Brians deal w/ "monstercages" ??

Nothing, you cant hold a person accountable for a referral.
 
Tom C said:
lmao....Posting on a free classified forum is a privilege not a right... :rofl:
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just to let everybody know that tomC is harry wessels supermod, on harry's forum, and its very common for him to fight harry's fights... just ignore him he was not involved in my potential business dealing with harry and matt.
 
i think harry was trying to detere people away from buying my snakes at this good price because they would be participating in "price cutting."

and now harry is being accused of "price fixing.... that is how this is relevant to my dealing with amtt and harry. very simply put... another on of harry's attempts at strong arming someone.
 
Brian, You are a sad disturbed person...This dispute has been over for a long time.
You arent into reptiles anymore, move on and get a life in sewing or something..
 
Tom C said:
Brian, You are a sad disturbed person...This dispute has been over for a long time.
You arent into reptiles anymore, move on and get a life in sewing or something..
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no i am happy... and what disturbs me is you and your bully friends. i have a fantastic career and a very brite future. if you want to continue this than go to you boss's website and start a thread there... otherwise bud out!!!
 
Brian your only intentions of this thread is to try an deface Harry...It has nothing to do w/ any deal and you know it.

I only hope that some one finally buys those hets so you can move on w/ your life and be done w/ this hatred that you have for Harry...He is a good person and you guys had a personal disagreement ( which is personal and has nothing to do w/ a sale) that you cant seem to let go.

Let it go Brian, its over.....
 
Tom C said:
Brian your only intentions of this thread is to try an deface Harry...It has nothing to do w/ any deal and you know it.

I only hope that some one finally buys those hets so you can move on w/ your life and be done w/ this hatred that you have for Harry...He is a good person and you guys had a personal disagreement ( which is personal and has nothing to do w/ a sale) that you cant seem to let go.

Let it go Brian, its over.....
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no i wont admit it tom, i have nothing to let go... those two tried to scam me... who in their right mind asks to have someone send snakes to them without paying for them first???

... give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

like i said before harry doesnt need my help to ruin his already shady reputaion... neither does matt.... OK!!!!!

AGAIN, tomC.... you have nothing to do with this and you have said enough. you are known for fighting for harry and STOP it.... this is between me, matt, and harry PERIOD!!!
 
Tom C said:
You are missing the point of the term "privilege" , no one is price fixing and this is about an agenda that has nothing to do with "price fixing"

If you have been in this hobby for awhile you would have to agree that 99% of us have pointed potential customers in the direction of different breeders, tell me how this has anything to do w/ "monstersnakesforever and Brians deal w/ "monstercages" ??

Nothing, you cant hold a person accountable for a referral.
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Let me spell it out for you. Your "friends" own words, not mine....


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Thanks for the inquery Brian. I banned you last night from MonsterSnakesForums.com for trying to lowball the market
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Also from post #12


MonsterSnakesForever.com said:
I then decided after you bad mouthed me you didnt need to be on my forums selling your animals for FREE and at 1/3 the market value and you are upset with me because I would not let you undercut the market on my website...I then banned you. After I did I recieved this...
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That is attempting to price fix. Are you so blind you cannot see past your friendship? Being someones friend, does NOT mean that that person deserves backing for unethical practices. IMO it makes you look just as bad for condoning that sort of behavior.

I'll stand by my opinion.
 
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