Ken Harbart
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Nope. He's just trying to piss people off, being the troll that he is.
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Inquiry!! David W. Evans is selling a $4500 Normal Adult Females
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SPJ
Well-known member
Must be since he has ignored everything people have tried to tell him.
TJEvans
New member
Why get so bent out of shape.....?
It's very obvious that this guy is just mocking the absurdity of other "possible" morph ads.......
As far as scamming anyone......please explain how?
In the ad, he says that if you breed the normal to a pied, albino, etc, that you could make money.....he's not lying is he?
Obviously this guy just has some issues. if his ads are ignored, as I'm sue they aren't being seriously responded to, then no harm done right?
Anyway
Thanks
Todd Evans (incidentally.......no relation)
It's very obvious that this guy is just mocking the absurdity of other "possible" morph ads.......
As far as scamming anyone......please explain how?
In the ad, he says that if you breed the normal to a pied, albino, etc, that you could make money.....he's not lying is he?
Obviously this guy just has some issues. if his ads are ignored, as I'm sue they aren't being seriously responded to, then no harm done right?
Anyway
Thanks
Todd Evans (incidentally.......no relation)
ms_terese
Irrelevant User
I guess the concern is that someone just getting into the hobby could misconstrue what he's claiming on both the normal and the new "possible het for piebald", and get taken advantage of. If someone actually offered him that price for one of those animals and he agreed to sell it to them, do you think that would qualify as a scam?
By the way, when did he reduce the price from $4,500 to $1,500? Did he say the $4,500 was a typo?
TJEvans
New member
bpc said:
But where exactly did he lie on the ad that was originally in question?
Here's the ad
TJEvans
New member
sorry...hit the wrong button
NO HE HASN'T
But where exactly did he lie on the ad that was originally in question?
Here's the ad
All he says is that "IF you breed her to an albino, pied or pastel, or any other morph".........He's right....if you did breed her to one of these, you'll have some hets.....you could make money.
Granted, it's a VERY high price for a normal, but hey, if somebody actually THINKS that this is a good idea, and misinterprets the ad, that's their fault. The guy never says that she's anyhting more than a ball python. eating well, and no history. frankly someobdy would have to win an "Idiot of the Year" award if they bought this for $4500......but hey, that's not HIS fault.
He has not "scammed" anyone.....first off. nobody bought it in order to be "scammed" and if they did, he was straight up front on what to expect. He never lied. Never implied a falsehood. nothing to label him as a "bad guy." I will agree though that he may very well be a "sarcastic, not to be taken seriously guy."
thanks
Todd Evans
bpc said:
NO HE HASN'T
But where exactly did he lie on the ad that was originally in question?
Here's the ad
All he says is that "IF you breed her to an albino, pied or pastel, or any other morph".........He's right....if you did breed her to one of these, you'll have some hets.....you could make money.
Granted, it's a VERY high price for a normal, but hey, if somebody actually THINKS that this is a good idea, and misinterprets the ad, that's their fault. The guy never says that she's anyhting more than a ball python. eating well, and no history. frankly someobdy would have to win an "Idiot of the Year" award if they bought this for $4500......but hey, that's not HIS fault.
He has not "scammed" anyone.....first off. nobody bought it in order to be "scammed" and if they did, he was straight up front on what to expect. He never lied. Never implied a falsehood. nothing to label him as a "bad guy." I will agree though that he may very well be a "sarcastic, not to be taken seriously guy."
thanks
Todd Evans
Bci Joe
BCIJOE
Hey , this guy is RIGHT!
Paying $4,500 for a normal ball IS better than paying 45,000 !!!
I'LL TAKE HIM! SOLD!!!
...sending my check for $4,500 RIGHT AWAY !
Please let me know as soon as you get it!!!
(i'm sooo excited !!! )
LOL
As a matter of fact, from now on, I will ONLY go him everytime I want to spend $45,000 on a normal ball.
Why wouldn't you? Get to save $40, 500 every time !!!!!!
SAAHHH - WWWEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Rollo
Paying $4,500 for a normal ball IS better than paying 45,000 !!!
I'LL TAKE HIM! SOLD!!!
...sending my check for $4,500 RIGHT AWAY !
Please let me know as soon as you get it!!!
(i'm sooo excited !!! )
LOL
As a matter of fact, from now on, I will ONLY go him everytime I want to spend $45,000 on a normal ball.
Why wouldn't you? Get to save $40, 500 every time !!!!!!
SAAHHH - WWWEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Rollo
NEWReptiles
New member
This is the other ad from David, I for one will never consider buying anything from this clown. I can go to shows and dig through 1000's of fresh imports and find odd looking normals, but would I ever think of trying to sell them for $1250 plus? NEVER!
Bci Joe
BCIJOE
Anybody remember the Alphabet Pattern Burmese for $80,000 that can read, write, sing and dance crazier than a penguin on a hot plate ???
This Ball is a BARGAIN compared to that burm!
Yet ANOTHER reason to buy!!!
don't ask, JUST BUY !!!!
LOL
Joe Rollo
This Ball is a BARGAIN compared to that burm!
Yet ANOTHER reason to buy!!!
don't ask, JUST BUY !!!!
LOL
Joe Rollo
Adam Block
New member
I for one feel $4,500 is a very fair price!
1) If you bred that animal to a spider male you would get say 3 spiders and make $50,000 your first year!!! That's $45,500 profit!! NOT TOO SHABBY!
2) Normal balls are very rare morphs. From a % standpoint much harder to find then say a pastel pewter! Look at the ads, you can find the following:
Crazy pattern
Crazy pattern black back
Crazy pattern blushing black back
Crazy pattern blushing yellow belly black back
Crazy pattern blushing yellow belly poka dotted black back
Now those don't include Killer or Screamers and all of the above can be found as either.
This also does not include the hets and poss hets as you can find:
Killer screamer crazy pattern blushing yellow belly poka dotted black back 50% poss. het genetic stripe from time to time.
Mostly those are from Bob Clark stock for some odd reason!
There are also the ? Ball morphs! AKA I hope you're stupid enough to buy my line of garbage. Or I hope your greed takes over and suckers you into sending me $1,500 for a $10 wild caught Ball Python.
These ? Balls are mostly of the ghost lines but can be found in all others. "Could be a new morph?" Is found in most of their descriptions followed buy how much money you could make cause they have too much going on with their job at Burger King to proove out this $100,000 morph! Very understandable, those king hats really do make you feel like a King!
So you see, $4,500 is a great price just from a where the heck else are you gonna get one standoint!
1) If you bred that animal to a spider male you would get say 3 spiders and make $50,000 your first year!!! That's $45,500 profit!! NOT TOO SHABBY!
2) Normal balls are very rare morphs. From a % standpoint much harder to find then say a pastel pewter! Look at the ads, you can find the following:
Crazy pattern
Crazy pattern black back
Crazy pattern blushing black back
Crazy pattern blushing yellow belly black back
Crazy pattern blushing yellow belly poka dotted black back
Now those don't include Killer or Screamers and all of the above can be found as either.
This also does not include the hets and poss hets as you can find:
Killer screamer crazy pattern blushing yellow belly poka dotted black back 50% poss. het genetic stripe from time to time.
Mostly those are from Bob Clark stock for some odd reason!
There are also the ? Ball morphs! AKA I hope you're stupid enough to buy my line of garbage. Or I hope your greed takes over and suckers you into sending me $1,500 for a $10 wild caught Ball Python.
These ? Balls are mostly of the ghost lines but can be found in all others. "Could be a new morph?" Is found in most of their descriptions followed buy how much money you could make cause they have too much going on with their job at Burger King to proove out this $100,000 morph! Very understandable, those king hats really do make you feel like a King!
So you see, $4,500 is a great price just from a where the heck else are you gonna get one standoint!
I really don't think I need to respond to all the people here talking bad about me, But I will say This....... I guess all of you have never HEARD of Slander...have you. All of you and here don't know me abd have NEVER done Business with me in person, Just Because I post and Ad on kingsnake.com for a Jungle? with a BIG question mark behind it doesn't me It's is a JUNGLE.....It was In question form incase any of you are not smart enough to figure that one out. But yet i was still called a Crook...You all really need to find something else to do with your time. All I am saying is I PAY for the right TO POST whatever the heck I want and FOR WHATEVER PRICE I WANT....Botton line IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT .....That is not that hard to understand is it.....And I am the one that is an IDIOT. In my Opinion an IDIOT is someone that Buds into everyone elses business since he has NONE of his own. Do any of you even POST on kingsnake? probably Not you are not old enough to get a subscription or cannot afford it. Call it what you will BUT I DO NOT LIE about my animals NOR do I Tell anyone I have something I don't...To the Guy who made the stupid comment about the HET pied I am selling.....If you would READ the ADD Nowhere on that add I say IT IS a HET...Again it is in Question form....could it be Het for pied?.... THat is a question....Since if came from the same place the ORIGINAL PIEDS came from they all have a chance..don't they...Yea it is a SLIM chance but I have seen weirder things happen.....And so what if I dropped a few names it was just so you all would relize I was not the only one posting high $$ snakes. Where is my 1250.00 ball worth any less that Someone elses(NO NAME DROPPING) 45,000 ball....Oh yea because its a proven genetic morph...give me a break....so your saying because he proved it out its worth 43,750 more than mine....Bottom line is it is SLANDER for you all to come on here posting that I am a crook or what ever else you feel like posting about me and MY BUSINESS. And that I could sue all of you for damages to my Charator and Business......I will finish this and you will see who is whining when I am through with you people. All because you wanna get mad because someone is posting snakes for HIGHER prices than YOU feel they should.....GUESS what I PAY kingsnake.com EVERY YEAR for that right. So it whould be in your best interest to mind your own BUSINESS unless I Clearly RIP someone off which will NEVER happen because I don't do business that way NEVER HAVE...and I have benn selling and collecting snakes for 20+ years longer than alot of you posting about me have been alive. So mind you OWN business and stay the hell out of mine, Unless you wanna buy something from me.... 
. But with that said I will keep posting stuff so get over it.... have a nice day......David
. But with that said I will keep posting stuff so get over it.... have a nice day......David
Ken Harbart
New member
David, it would behoove you to learn what slander is, and more importantly- what it isn't. It might also behoove you to learn how to put together a rational argument.
Quite simply, you're just an idiot out to make a quick buck and get under the skin of legitimate herpers by misrepresenting his animals?
Quite simply, you're just an idiot out to make a quick buck and get under the skin of legitimate herpers by misrepresenting his animals?
Clay Davenport
Cerebral Nomad
I think we're failing to see the big picture here. I understand where David is coming from, and I'm with him.
As a matter of fact David I saw you were offering a trio of chondros for $2900 or trade for ball pythons. I just happen to have a proven adult female normal ball. I realize she's actually worth $4500, so call me crazy, but I'd be willing to give you a great deal and trade her for the three chondros and only $500 boot.
That's $1100 less than what she's worth, but I'm just that kind of guy.
Just imagine what you could get if you bred her with a pied, or a genetic stripe!!!
Let me know if you're interested.
As a matter of fact David I saw you were offering a trio of chondros for $2900 or trade for ball pythons. I just happen to have a proven adult female normal ball. I realize she's actually worth $4500, so call me crazy, but I'd be willing to give you a great deal and trade her for the three chondros and only $500 boot.
That's $1100 less than what she's worth, but I'm just that kind of guy.
Just imagine what you could get if you bred her with a pied, or a genetic stripe!!!
Let me know if you're interested.
Ken if you are the moderator and you are going to act like this I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANYTHING on the faunaclassifieds webpage and I will do everything in my power to see others will NOT follow this website. Because far is far...opinion are like a$$H**ES everyone has one.........But I shouldn't be posting in this struggling site anyway...I was just told you IDIOTS were slamming me again.......out
....But I shouldn't be posting in this struggling site anyway...I was just told you IDIOTS were slamming me again.......outFor one Clay...as stated the 4500.00 female WAS A TROLL because of the posts I got from posting a 1250.00 JUNGLE? ball on kingsnake.com. and yes that IS IN QUESTION FORM for all of you who didn't read that part of MY post on kingsnake.com.... so no I am not interested, Now if she is 100% het for pied and you can prove it then maybe. I would also be willing to trade them for and albino female ball. Have a great day fellas. See ya
Ken Harbart
New member
David, you and Mario Stinso must have been separated at birth...lol.
My position as a moderator of this "struggling site" (LMFAO) does not preclude me from stating my opinion on any given matter. If your ego is too fragile to handle that, I could care less- I call 'em as I see 'em.
Besides David, I didn't say anything derogatory about you. If you care to notice, there's a question mark at the end of that post. In your very own words, that makes it 100% kosher.
My position as a moderator of this "struggling site" (LMFAO) does not preclude me from stating my opinion on any given matter. If your ego is too fragile to handle that, I could care less- I call 'em as I see 'em.
Besides David, I didn't say anything derogatory about you. If you care to notice, there's a question mark at the end of that post. In your very own words, that makes it 100% kosher.
Adam Block
New member
1.0 Poss het* Calico Ball python $4,500
0.1 Poss het* Pied Green Tree python $9,500
0.1 100% het for Adult Ball python $4,500
1.0 100% het for dead Corn snake $2,000
*0.000000000000001 percent chance (hey it could happen)
1.0 Ball python Two headed? $45,000
1.0 Ball python Glowing? $5,000
0.1 Ball python with legs? $6,000
COME ON! That's all just stupid! I didn't say it was this or that I just posted it as a question.
Translation: Yeah so I looked in a bucket of wild caught ball pythons and found one that looked a little funny. Then I went to NERDS sites and found the closest morph he had and decided to sell it not as that morph but as "I don't know what this is so please take advantage of me and pay $1,200 for a $15 ball python cause I made you think maybe it could be that morph".
David, the jig is up, you don't like that you got called out on it and you're dealing with it like crap. You, me and the rest of the users on this site know what you're doing. What it comes down to is how you deal with that.
Your call, keep talking trash or fess up. I'll have more fun if you keep talking crap but you'll look better in all our eyes if you come clean. Your call!
0.1 Poss het* Pied Green Tree python $9,500
0.1 100% het for Adult Ball python $4,500
1.0 100% het for dead Corn snake $2,000
*0.000000000000001 percent chance (hey it could happen)
1.0 Ball python Two headed? $45,000
1.0 Ball python Glowing? $5,000
0.1 Ball python with legs? $6,000
COME ON! That's all just stupid! I didn't say it was this or that I just posted it as a question.
Translation: Yeah so I looked in a bucket of wild caught ball pythons and found one that looked a little funny. Then I went to NERDS sites and found the closest morph he had and decided to sell it not as that morph but as "I don't know what this is so please take advantage of me and pay $1,200 for a $15 ball python cause I made you think maybe it could be that morph".
David, the jig is up, you don't like that you got called out on it and you're dealing with it like crap. You, me and the rest of the users on this site know what you're doing. What it comes down to is how you deal with that.
Your call, keep talking trash or fess up. I'll have more fun if you keep talking crap but you'll look better in all our eyes if you come clean. Your call!