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David,

Thanks for sharing your experience, but I think you need to read this thread.

Talking is one thing... Doing is another.
 
Speaking of talking, it seems ol joey caponie does that quite a lot. Too bad it's JUST talk.

Below is just the last half of a thread that was deleted over at reptileforums.com.

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I saw your web site. You sell animals = business to me.
Oh btw I paid cash for my Corvette. But when I get 0% financing I don't pay cash....just dumb to me!
I don't sell animals. i own the domain name, but that gets redirected to another domain name.
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I don't sell animals. i own the domain name, but that gets redirected to another domain name.
He doesn't sell voids himself, technically his hands are clean should death occur to someone buying a viod.

His site DOES funnel buyer to the site they can buy from though, so looked at from another point of view, he's no better or less responsible than the guys doing the surgeries or selling the viods.

It's hairsplitting at it's finest.
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I sent a few emails to JoeC, but unfortunately he hasn't had the time to reply yet. I just wanted to find out if there is another way to reach out to him.


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"Dude 6k is my bottom on one for 07 and you have a year to pay it off over time.. It is a steal period..

Joe at MKR"
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I sent a few emails to JoeC, but unfortunately he hasn't had the time to reply yet. I just wanted to find out if there is another way to reach out to him.


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"Dude 6k is my bottom on one for 07 and you have a year to pay it off over time.. It is a steal period..

Joe at MKR"
I think you need to wait till they separate MKR. From what I understand is no more selling at this time. They are honoring all previous orders/sales.
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I think you need to wait till they separate MKR. From what I understand is no more selling at this time. They are honoring all previous orders/sales.
Have you spoken with joe to know this or are you assuming it will be as you say? I'm rather curious about how past commitments will be met as I know a few folks who will be affected by the eventual turnout of their fallout.

thanks in advance.
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Have you spoken with joe to know this or are you assuming it will be as you say? I'm rather curious about how past commitments will be met as I know a few folks who will be affected by the eventual turnout of their fallout.

thanks in advance.
They both are both businessmen.
If you have placed a deposit for your animal they will honor it. They have my name on my animals just like other PAID customers. I also believe that they do not [my opinion] have to honor window shoppers. They could have sold out!
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They both are both businessmen.
If you have placed a deposit for your animal they will honor it. They have my name on my animals just like other PAID customers. I also believe that they do not [my opinion] have to honor window shoppers. They could have sold out!
This really does not answer my question.

Has either joe or wes told you flat out that they will be honouring deposits and verbal contracts or not?

I am also hopeful that they come through with what they say, but having a third party who is not directly involved with their business saying that they will do a certain thing is not nearly the same as that same third party saying that either joe or wes SAID they would themselves.

What has either joe or wes told you directly, if anything at all?

thanks again in advance again
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This really does not answer my question.

Has either joe or wes told you flat out that they will be honouring deposits and verbal contracts or not?

I am also hopeful that they come through with what they say, but having a third party who is not directly involved with their business saying that they will do a certain thing is not nearly the same as that same third party saying that either joe or wes SAID they would themselves.

What has either joe or wes told you directly, if anything at all?

thanks again in advance again
Joe said to me as I am talking to him on the phone now Don't worry.
No customer will be hurt. PERIOD. Verbal with out deposit = zero.
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Joe said to me as I am talking to him on the phone now Don't worry.
No customer will be hurt. PERIOD. Verbal with out deposit = zero.
So, his promises have no value? That's a damn shame as many took him at his word.

devenomized, I guess you have your answer there, it's a no go on your promised snake, even though joe gave you his word you'd get it.

It IS good to know though that those who DID put deposits down will recieve the animals they wanted. Is there a timeframe for that to occur, the delivery of those snakes that were promised and held by deposits?

thanks for the assistance
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"So, his promises have no value? That's a damn shame as many took him at his word."

promise?

Quote a price then customer runs away? What promise?

Trying to trade a car for his animals? hummmm?

I guess that in 1999 I offered a corn for $50.00 at a show. They walked away I sold the animal. Do I still owe him the animal for $50.00?

Get real folks!
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"So, his promises have no value? That's a damn shame as many took him at his word."

promise?

Quote a price then customer runs away? What promise?

Trying to trade a car for his animals? hummmm?

I guess that in 1999 I offered a corn for $50.00 at a show. They walked away I sold the animal. Do I still owe him the animal for $50.00?

Get real folks!
IF you tell that customer that no deposit is required then who is to blame?

I may be wrong but didn't joe tell reina that he would honor the price and the snake without a deposit at the time?

If he did not say that, then there is no problem and I've merely mis-remembered a conversation.

YO reina, what was the deal with you two?
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God your making me cry!
Does not ring a bell!
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God your making me cry!
Does not ring a bell!
Well, if you must cry, then you must.

Is there some reason a deal made with joe should ring a bell for you though? Are you and joe partners now or were you when he was making, er not making, his deal with reina?

In fact, since you talk to joe so often, could you ask him to come post his version of things here? Please?

thanks again, it's been quite helpful so far.
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The BOI is a daily example of where people, when faced with a difference of opinion, are unable to debate the message, and rather go after the messenger.
The BOI is a daily example of where Jim Flaherty of Chamco, when faced with a difference of opinion, are unable to debate the message, and rather go after the messenger.
Excellent observation Jim ;)
 
There was an email in my inbox that I deleted before copying in which ball boutique stated that joey caponie does NOT post on forums.

Why would someone so eloquent as joey caponie NOT post on forums? He's so smooth and sophisticated and ALWAYS tells the truth and would NEVER say one thing then do another, like make a promise and then say "too bad", not good ol joey caponie.

Of course, if he's afraid of coming to the public and posting I guess I could, well not really but I'll try hard to pretend, understand why FEAR ruled him.

I'd sure hate to have people call ME a scardycat or coward or liar; indeed I would.

I guess joey caponie doesn't mind though.

Eh, if the shoe fits, as the saying goes.....
 
Obviously someone cares enough to not only read, but take the time to comment.

Your actions, as USUAL, belie your words.
 

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To those with difficulty reading Wes' attachment, I popped him some negative Karma, the second time I have done so as a member here, vs. one time giving him positive karma. I am currently 0-3 in karma from Wes, and have no expectation of being anything but 0-4 as soon as he is able to do so. If someone could please direct me to where we can redeem them for cash and prizes, or convert them to frequent flier miles, I would be most appreciative. Otherwise, I will continue to take them to be as dingleberries. Seems another day of the SOS in the BOI. Sorry to have damaged your feelings Wes. Happy Holidays otherwise !
 
Jim and Wes,

We have agreed and disagreed several times and will more than likely continue to do so. That’s the essence of life! But that doesn’t mean that I need to express it by giving bad karma to any of you. In fact right now my status doesn't allow me to give karma to anyone or view who gave karma to me either. This is one thing you may want to try sometime; it really frees your mind. Constantly checking who praised or disagreed with your posts makes you loose objectivity. This is exemplified by the tit for tat (positive and negative) that we see oftentimes happening. You did this for me I’ll do this for you. In fact I'm pretty sure that you might find in agreement with each other pretty often but don't express if because you would be giving karma to "him".

Regards.
 
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Jim and Wes,

We have agreed and disagreed several times and will more than likely continue to do so. That’s the essence of life! But that doesn’t mean that I need to express it by giving bad karma to any of you. In fact right now my status doesn't allow me to give karma to anyone or view who gave karma to me either. This is one thing you may want to try sometime; it really frees your mind. Constantly checking who praised or disagreed with your posts makes you loose objectivity. This is exemplified by the tit for tat (positive and negative) that we see oftentimes happening. You did this for me I’ll do this for you. In fact I'm pretty sure that you might find in agreement with each other pretty often but don't express if because you would be giving karma to "him".

Regards.
Actually Dan, you're wrong. There have been times, more than one, where I tried to give him positive Karma but was unable to do so.

I do not keep score, I do not play tit for tat, I would have a hard time caring less what is thought by him.

I merely find it amusing, the ease with which by the mere pulling of a string, or posting of a hypocritical comment made by him, or anyone else for that matter, can set of entire diatribes of how wonderful he/they are and how terrible I am.
 
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Actually Dan, you're wrong.

Then refer to my statement in the post above:

We have agreed and disagreed several times and will more than likely continue to do so. That’s the essence of life!
;)

What do you say if we ask for one of the "supermoderators" to lock this thread? It doesn't seem we are accomplishing anything more for posterity here...MKR has been left way behind...
 
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