Inquiry on bearded pets?

[Scochoman]

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What about the original paperwork from the breeder that wasn't sent with my snakes?


Scott Vernooy

 

[jon1048]

S. Vernooy

OMG I can't believe I missed all this. But anyways I purchased some "het. Albino" balls from you in Feb. The male still hasn't fed and the female has fed for the third time this week. They were scrawney and pet storish. I have kept BP's for over 11 years and have never had a pair as stubborn and slow growing as these. So if your breeder is Eliga Collins where did he get his stock from? And can he verify it? and also the gaurantee of genetics you sent with my snakes that has a supposed picture of the actual snake for indentity purposes aren't even the actual snakes. In fact the pic on both of them is of the same snake. Can you explain this?

Scott- I apologize for your displeasure with this purchase. Your snakes were not bred by E. Collins. I had purchased your snakes from a different breeder. As far as the photo go's the photo should have been different on each guarantee sheet. One of the female and one of the male. If this is the case then that was my mistake and I do apologize, though the photo must have been of either sex of the snakes I sent you. As far as one of them not eating, that seems odd to me as both of them appeared healthy and were eating when I had them. You say the female fed for the third time this week, that seems fine to me but the male not eating for this amount of time is a problem. I usually give them some time to get used to there new environment. How ever it does not take as much time as it has already. I am willing to replace your snakes with E. Collins bred stock. I have one pair of baby het albinos left. I will guarantee them to feed as soon as you receive them. The male you have might have something internal causing him not to eat. Either way if you send them back I can get a refund from the guy I bought them from and you will get snakes more appeasably to you. Also since they will be E. Collins stock they will come with his sheet. If you would like to do this please advise me and we will work this out. Also please send me back with the snakes the paperwork you already have. Again I apologize if you feel negatively about your purchase. I am only willing to do this because the male didn’t eat which seems odd to me.
Thanks

 

[Scochoman]

I would appreciate that Jon but I think everyone still wants to know where he gets his breeding stock from. That is how genetics are verified. I think everyone here would like to think this a big misunderstanding, but not until questions are answered and facts are proven. Email me at Vernooyboy@sbcglobal and we'll work something out.

Thank You
Scott Vernooy

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

BTS

jon,

I'd like to know how you managed to get your Blue Tonged Skinks to lay eggs? Every specimen that I have ever seen, or have read about is a live-bearer. Now, I know that an 'upstanding' gentleman, such as yourself, would certainly not be fibbing, so
could you please enlighten us as to how you managed to do this?

Is it because your kids and yourself held them so much? I mean, that managed to make cuddly alligators and peachy-tempered Vanarus niloticus, so I guess that anything is possible at your facility.

 

[screamdreams]

New Ad....

Jon, one more real quick question on your het Pieds:

Is this new ad is a typo as well, if so - you should really consider getting your diploma before you sell anymore animals.

One LAST question for you:
Are you doing this $hit on purpose!?!?!?!?! You have far exceeded the 3 strikes and you're out program. No references, only dissatisfied customers, no pics of your facility, no nothing....but more BS ads up on KS. I'll make you a deal. You send this trio to me, I will raise them up put all the work in them, and in 2-3 years I'll contact with the outcome. IF even a single homozygous animal is born, I will give you the trio and their offspring + the $3,000 asking price. Write me up a contract, I'll sign it, and do all the work for you. Better not pass this one up, you could come out way ahead. What do you got in those things anyway??

FAUNA MEMBERS, PLEASE MAKE NOT OF THE HIGHLIGHTED SELECTION IN THE AD BELOW.

1.2 SUB ADULT HET FOR PIED BALL PYTHONS ! GREAT DEAL .TAKE A LOOK ! GET THEM BEFORE THERE GONE !
WILL SHIP ANYWHERE IN CONTINENTAL USA!!!
Posted by (Contact Me!) on July 08, 2004 at 14:12:38
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2004-01-05
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1.2 Sub adult het for pied ball pythons , They weigh 300-330 grams , We could sell them in a pair for $1800 or in the trio for $3000 also they could be sold in singles We are selling them inexpensive because we have lots of new arrivals coming in this week and we are trying to make quick sales on some of our stock. These are awesome and would make a great addition to any breeding project. Shipping is included in the price. These include a copy of the original paper work from the breeder and a genetic guarantee. The female was a common and the male was a albino. .These are in perfect health and very pretty. We accept PAY PAL money orders and cashiers checks., also we have more pictures available. Payment plans are also accepted. They can be held with a deposit of any where from $75-$200 + .

 

[screamdreams]

Is this new ad is a typo as well

Oops, looks like I made one as well. It should read:
Is this new ad a typo as well.

FAUNA MEMBERS, PLEASE MAKE NOT OF THE HIGHLIGHTED SELECTION

and another....my apologies This should obviously read:
FAUNA MEMBERS, PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF THE HIGHLIGHTED SELECTION

Above are 2 examples of honest "typos", can anyone tell a difference between my "typos" and Jon's "typos"????

 

[Rob @ RK Reptiles]

Unbelievable

I can't believe these people. That is one of the funniest screw ups I have ever seen. Hell I wish I could get 100% het pied from breeding an Albino to a normal. Damn think of the money.... Here is a screen shot of the ad so everyone can see it in its entirety.

 

[screamdreams]

Thank you Rob...

I did a screen capture too but I had some "typos" in it....oh what the heck, I'll post it anyway!!!

 

[NEWReptiles]

HEY TRUNK, please explain this so us honest folks can understand.

1.2 Sub adult het for pied ball pythons , They weigh 300-330 grams , We could sell them in a pair for $1800 or in the trio for $3000 also they could be sold in singles We are selling them inexpensive because we have lots of new arrivals coming in this week and we are trying to make quick sales on some of our stock. These are awesome and would make a great addition to any breeding project. Shipping is included in the price. These include a copy of the original paper work from the breeder and a genetic guarantee. The female was a common and the male was a albino.These are in perfect health and very pretty. We accept PAY PAL money orders and cashiers checks., also we have more pictures available. Payment plans are also accepted. They can be held with a deposit of any where from $75-$200 + .

Female was a common and male was albino eh, are you going to start selling het for stupid too?

I can not wait til your scams catch up to you...........

 

[jon1048]

I can alawys count on you guys to let me know when I screw up on an add

To bad you cant just tell me if I make a mistake you have to map it out and act like im a criminal for making it. I already edited the add. I had over 15 emails from normal people telling me that I made a mistake. Sorry guys but I cant wait untill snakes start breeding out and people can prove that you have some very loose screws. If this is your idea of not being a prick then the deal is off on questions. I want to prove myself but like I thought before there is no reason to prove myself to a bunch of bimbos. If you cant see a mistake then so be it. Alot of people dont even pay attention to this BOI becouse of that. You people just cant hear anything out.
Thanks

 

[jon1048]

Oh by the way troy, I got my diploma and just to tell you I am thinking of hiring somebody to post my adds. And I dont want to hear you talk about literacy, acording to your profile your job is at the YMCA???????? I dont want to be rude but what type of diplomas does that job need. Also as far as skill wise go's what does it require???? Im guessing not as much as what you sound like you should have.

 

[NEWReptiles]

If you cant see a mistake then so be it.

Mistake my ass, I'm sick of losers trying to pass the buck on wrong pics or typos.

So are you telling me ALL of your het ads are/were typos, now that I would believe...................

When are you going to post het pieds that have a 98% chance of producing clowns since they were produced by a albino x normal breeding?

 

[jon1048]

Al GUETZKOW- acording to some of the posts you made that made absolutely no sense at all. Or just seemd so ridiculous. The only way I can sell het for stupid is if you bred to a normal person. But last I checked it wasnt an inherited gene nor is there a market for people.

 

[Mike T]

WOW!!! I cant' belive that typo. The funny thing about this add is that these animals were posted about 2 weeks ago as het for albinos. I know because I emailed you about them. I remember the pic of the 2 snakes around the 2 black poles. Its also funny how you have soooo many adds on the adoption site of KS. I always like to give a person a chance and not take away someones ability to make an extra income, but comeon man. What the hell are you doing here. You are digging a deeper hole for yourself.
If I were you, I would take Troys offer and redeem yourself. I do rescue work too, but I do not sell them as hets!!!

 

[jon1048]

By the way the blue tongues were a typo. Like I said I bred mostly beardies. I was thinking of my beardies when I typed the add. I have so much stuff and so much on my mind when I type these adds that some times I dont put what I meant to. Im sorry to upset your perfect little world but thats the way it is.
Thanks

 

[jon1048]

WOW!!! I cant' belive that typo. The funny thing about this add is that these animals were posted about 2 weeks ago as het for albinos. I know because I emailed you about them. I remember the pic of the 2 snakes around the 2 black poles. Its also funny how you have soooo many adds on the adoption site of KS. I always like to give a person a chance and not take away someones ability to make an extra income, but comeon man. What the hell are you doing here. You are digging a deeper hole for yourself.

They are not the same snakes. Have you thought they were around the same pole or maybe they were put on the same background decoration. If you can find me a screen shot then maybe we can talk.

 

[jon1048]

Mike- I also do rescue work. But I do not take in a sick animal and sell it nor do I take in a sick animal and sell it as a het. Sometimes people jsut want to give up there aniaml becouse they jsut dont want it around. Those I do sell "not as hets" If I do not want it for a project. And just to so you know I tell the person what I will be doing with there animal if they give it to me. I dont plan on selling someones loved pet if they dont want me to. See the difernce between me and most people here is that I know people have feeligns and I recognize attachment to an indivsual animals personality.
Thanks

 

[NEWReptiles]

Al GUETZKOW- acording to some of the posts you made that made absolutely no sense at all.

What the hell are you talking about? It makes rerfect sense.

The only way I can sell het for stupid is if you bred to a normal person. But last I checked it wasnt an inherited gene nor is there a market for people.

WOW, dishonest AND funny.....

I will have to dig up all the ads I saved from this trunk guy, I know I have atleast 6-7 ads for the fake hets hes selling. If I find ones that use the same pics I will gladly post it here.

 

[jon1048]

Al- okay no problem. Im sure you will find adds with the same photos. But they will be the same snakes. As far as everyone keeps saying about varying weights and prices. I dont have a set price down to the dollar I lower or higher it depending on weather I get any repsonses to it. As far as weights go I just give a guess at there current weight I make sure to tell any potential customer that I will have to put them on a scale to get the perfect weight. I do not have a electric scale so I have to use a normal old one. Which I dont plan on doing unless some one wants to know exact weights at this imediate time.
Thanks

 

[jon1048]

Troy- I did not notice your offer I just thought it was a qoute of my add. I have no problem with that offer with the het pieds. Except one thing, are you planning on paying me for them??? Becouse if not how in the hell and why the hell should I trust you. A man that so far hates my guts but doesnt know a thing about me????? I would love that offer but problem is I dont trust you at all, despite what others think of you.