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Inquiry on bearded pets?

BUMP

Just bumping up, more people need to read this :)

I was just about to buy the same red foots several of you were untill I found this, me and 2 of my friends will not be buying from them now.

Also, I asked where the red foots were they said GA then I asked for address so I could go check them out, of course I now get no reply and decided to post here.

Thanks BOI & members :)

Matthew K.
 
wow I think they like me

Subj: Re: Location?
Date: 4/11/04 2:56:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Hi, Just checked my email, these are very nice Red Foots, unfortunately you will not be in the grace of having them. Just decided to let you know, oh and sorry I guess I can not celebrate easter with my familly I need to stay by my email at all times. Sorry for playing with my kids on a holiday, you guys must try to make every day more stressfule then the next. I saw your comments on Fauna before seeing this email, good thing to "other wise I would have been wasting my time meeting you"..........thanks
P.S. I have decided by now that the problem with emails and not talking person to person is that you do not know if your talking to an asshole or not.

[email protected] wrote:
I would love to come see them, and if they meet standards I would pic up a few if not all :)

Matthew
 
They are still at it

: 4/11/2004 11:50:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Hi,We are looking for cages for trade for 100% Het for Albino ball pythons with all there paper work and are guarantee.
Are you interested?
Thanks Alot
Elena

from thirtpt
Hi. Possibly, who produced them and when? What trade value do you need for them? How many prs?

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Hi, Eligh Collins , 10/03 , $780 , I have one pair available.
Thanks Alot
Elena

From: Thirtypt
To: [email protected]



Do you have any pictures of the babies? Parents? I have not heard of the breeder, where are they located? Do you have contact info. for them? Thanx Casey

Casey and Darla Hulse
Natures Spirit Reptiles/Snake Shacks
www.nsreptiles.com

I have not heard back from Elena yet, don't think I will either.
 
Capital City Reptiles,

Welcome to the BOI! Yes there are some people that want to pull fast ones, but there are a lot of honest and respectable breeders represented in here. Everyone's participation is important. Having said this I will encourage you to post your full name before your posts get deleted. It is one of the rules of this site and it is being enforced on a regular basis. If not you might see your posts start to disappear.

Again, welcome and looking forward to your contributions!

Regards.
 
bearded pets scam artists

I was going to trade 2 albino boas for their het for pieds and het for albino balls i tried getting their phone number several different times and finally i told them i would need it to put it on the box in case it got lost they finally sent it then i asked for pics but they acted like they never even read that part of my e-mail ,i started reading all these posts and called fedex and cancelled my package and had it sent back to me,theres no way i could have stood by and let them rip me off like that,if that package would have made it there i would have been making a trip to georgia,i worked to hard the last 3 or 4 years raising my females and breeding them to get ripped off by some lowlifes,they said the snakes were bred by eliga collins,no one has ever heard of this guy someone needs to make a trip to georgia and bust some heads. thanks mike
 
watch out for this mike31 guy!

this is my email response. I know all of you out there have something against us. But this guy is the real scammer! Nothing wWed, 14 Apr 2004 10:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Bearded Pets" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Message about: 100% HET FOR PIED BALL BALL PYTHONS ! GOOD DEAL ON ARE LAST PAIR !
To: "mike bell" <[email protected]>




Hey, you want to bust my head? How about this I know there was nothing in the box you sent
why don't you post that you were the one that was trying to scam me. If you truly were honest you should have told me your concerns, instead of lying and continuing to email me after you cancelled the fedex package, guess what your email time stamps and fedex call in times don't match up. I am an honest seller, the information you read on fauna was started by a bunch of no it all yahoos who don't have a clue except for starting rumors. I believe you were the scammer trying to convince me to send out my snakes on tracking #. Look back on fauna no one who has complained was a customer. You want to come here and discuss this, how about I come to your location WV isn't a far drive. Looking back on the emails its strange that a such a devoted
snake breeder needed instructions on how to pack and ship snakes. You know why because you don't even have snakes! How about I get on fauna and start a thread about you, if your not honest that shouldn't bother you but if you are they will tear you apart like a bunch a pyrhannas. Because that is what they do even if the don't know what is going on. I bet the picture you sent me wasn't even your own. You probably took someone else picture. you even spelled some words wrong in your emails. That's odd, herp people know how to spell good,
Yes, I believe something is fishy here.
By the way I have the box weight from fedex (extremely fishy!) Lucky for me I smelled a fish and was going to wait to ship. The snakes I would have sent you were the real thing, to bad for you.

as in that box!
 
not scammers

I want to say just because sellers may act out of the norm does not make them scammers. The thread herein does not paint an entire picture just opinions, a poor opinion from people who obviously hold some kind of a grudge. The people who have made statements are from people I have never met, done business with or have ever heard off.
 
Also...

Did you not claim those photos were yours and actually go on to state exactly how old the animal was when the picture of it was taken! Talk about lying your @ss off to make a sale. Simply put you wasted a lot of my time by trying to sell me WC animals (which do very poor in captivity) as CB. You stole pictures, claimed the animals were yours, and even made up stories about the animals. At one point I even asked you if the pictures were yours and still you lied and said they were. The reason we have not done business with you is that we recognized you are a scammer before we sent out our hard earned money.

Steven Hoch
 
Jon,

I can highly suggest that you read the entire thread regarding Vince Rusello and think about the ENTIRE situation. The people on this site have no personal grudge other than trying to prevent others from being ripped off by an obvious scammer. It always comes out in the wash as it has before and will again. Just a little friendly advice for you.
 
wasting everyones time

You really think i would send a package just to cancel it,thats a bunch of crap,what about this so called eliga collins with all these high end snakes but no one has heard of,and you obviously have never held a baby snake or you would know they dont weigh much so the package did'nt weigh much.This was my first litter of snakes ever that is why i had questions on shipping just like everybody else i'm sure whose shipped for the first time.I cancelled the package an hour and a half after i sent it after reading these posts and some others on kingsnake.As they say majority rules and there were just to many negativities against you by very well established people and thats why i cancelled my package to you.As far as me not having snakes believe what you want i dont use other peoples pics to sell animals.
 
100% HET ALBINO BALL PYTHONS! GREAT DEAL!
WILL SHIP ANYWHERE IN CONTINENTAL USA!!!
Posted by (Contact Me!) on April 16, 2004 at 18:37:01
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2004-01-05

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Hi, This is a real nice 100% het for albino ball python pair. Feeds good on rat pinkies. These are high end balls and I am selling them low at only $780 for a pair. This is an extradonary price. Only for a limited time. All new hets that we will breed or receive in the future will be at a higher price do to the quick sales. These are great specimans and will make awsome additions to any breeding project. Email: [email protected]
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This is a great deal but I didn't get a reply to my inquiry below. Anyone know how to get in touch with them? I would like to know more about the genetics of this pair.

Thanks.
 

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Well Dan this guy had no clue to how Genetics worked at all until I informed him on another site when he was trying to sell 100% het for albino balls that he said he produced. Then al of a sudden he now supposedly knows all about Genetics, and has even more and tons to sell at super low prices. In case anyone is wondering, I purchase animals from many people including some of the larger breeders from time to time and the prices he is selling at are below what they get sold to their best customers at most times. It is my firm belief from both these incidents with him not knowing genetics, their posting of W/C animals as C.B. and their total ignorance on everything that anything they are selling are not legitimate. I would say it would be best to stay away from anything they have for sale like the plague and buy from someone else that might have the animals at that time whether it is the same or even higher prices.
 
This is a great deal but I didn't get a reply to my inquiry below.
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Rob,

That was a little sarcasm on my side. ;) You should see the girls I bought from you! Whenever I have time I'll take a picture and send it.

Regards.
 
Dont waste your time asking them about genetics...

alvaro said:
This is a great deal but I didn't get a reply to my inquiry below. Anyone know how to get in touch with them? I would like to know more about the genetics of this pair.

Thanks.
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Anyone who does not know the genetics of their hets is full of it! Regardless of whether or not they are intentionally selling normals as hets or they purchased animals from a "wholesaler" who told them they were hets, they have NO proof that the balls are indeed hets! I inquired a few months ago and recieved the following B.S.




[email protected] wrote: Hello, I would like to see pics of the het albinos on KS as well as the parents if possible.

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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Bearded Pets <[email protected]> wrote:
I will send pics and details later , sorry i can not supply pics of parents as these hets have been purchased from a breeder & i do not have the parents in my position .these hets come with a money back guarantee . Thank's

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David Durbin <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for your reply. What breeder did they come from? And did you purchase them directly from the breeder or did they exchange hands again somewhere along the way? You know I mean no disrespect with my questioning. But with hets, I have to have the whole story before I will go near them.

Thanks again and I look forward to recieving the pics.

Michael.

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Bearded Pets <[email protected]> wrote:
We are setting up our own breeding stock , but these are from various breeders & wholesalers from Canada to Mexico , they do not come with linage ,we purchase in quantity . if thats what you are looking for you should go directly to a breeder , that is why we offer a warranty & our prices are lower . it is like going to Macy's or wall mart .Thank's

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David Durbin <[email protected]>wrote: I want to thank you again for getting back to me, though I must admit I am a little confused about your answer. Your ad states that "These guys come complete with paper work and signed receipts." However, your reply reads that "these are from various breeders & wholesalers from Canada to Mexico , they do not come with linage." So then the reciepts and paperwork are from you? Forgive me for being a bit cautious but what about the paperwork you got from the wholesaler/breeder? Im wouldnt think you would purchase hets without paperwork, although I may be wrong. So I will base my decision to buy on the answer you give to the following question. If you have no paperwork from the breeder (and in fact do not even know the origin of these animals) then how can you be sure they are hets?

I look forward to hearing back from you soon, and thanks again for responding to all of my questions.

Michael
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Needless to say, they NEVER sent pics of the animals and although my questioning was as polite and respectful as humanly possible, they never replied to my last email!

THESE GUYS ARE SCAMMERS! Do not waste your time or money contributing to their B.S.
 
Dan,

I recognized your sarcasm and basically made the post to you but so others could read it. Another thing, these guys say they got some of their animals from Mexico? Hmmmm last time I checked there still were no exports allowed out of Mexico of anything but I could be wrong but either way who in their right mind is going to trust a scam artist who can not show proof of their lineage.
 
Is it just me or..........

Has anyone noticed that Bearded Pets are saying that they have a pair of 100% het for PIE-BALD Ball Pythons that were hatched in November 2003 for sale for $1400 for the pair shipped. I personally don't know of any Breeders that are producing Ball pythons during those months as that is when the Balls are in brumation. They are saying that the animals were produced from some "small breeder" in Ga named Eliga Collins. Sounds an awful lot to me like they are just w/c balls being sold as hets. They say they come with documentation and their guarantee. Well their exact words are "Hi, Yes we do and they will come with them and are guarantee , Eliga Collins hes a small breeder in GA.
Thanks Alot
Elena"

I personally feel that any documentation sent would be something made up in word with fake names and such.
 

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Sorry if I'm wrong, but wasnt E. Collins the name given in one of the questionable reptibid threads dealing with hets as the breeder no one ever heard of also?

Dana
 
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